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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: bfandbf on Sunday 20 October 13 22:23 BST (UK)
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Thomas Delbridge was born June 1846 in St. Agnes, Cornwall.
Mary Jane Ingram was born Jan 1846 in Hayle.
They married 1866 in the Redruth district, probably Hayle area. I would love to know more about their predecessors.
I believe Thomas Delbridge's parents were Thomas Delbridge b. 1820 and Caroline Bond b. abt. 1821.
I believe Mary Jane Ingram's parents were Tobias Ingram and Mary Watts who descended from the Arundel family so more known in that line.
Thank you for whatever help there might be to offer for the Delbridges or Ingrams.
Barry Foster
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I believe Thomas Delbridge's parents were Thomas Delbridge b. 1820 and Caroline Bond b. abt. 1821.
The 1851 for St Keverne appears to contradict that - parents are shown as John & Frances
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
John Delbridge 33 Copper Miner St Agnes
Frances Wife 31 St Agnes
Mary 11 St Agnes
John 9 Scholar St Agnes
Frances F St Agnes
Thomas 5 St Agnes
Isaac 3 Crowan
HO107 Piece 1913 Folio 428 Page 13
The Thomas Delbridge with parents Thomas & Caroline was born 1844 Gwennap according to the 1861 census
Do you have a copy of the 1866 marriage cert showing his fathers name and occupation
The 1851 shows Mary Jane Ingram b Phillack with parents Tobias & Mary
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1871 census shows Thomas as 24 and born St Agnes and a blacksmith. RG10/5622 folio 26 pg 6 The Thomas son of Thomas & Caroline is slightly older
1851 Mingoose, St Agnes HO107/1909 folio 660 pg 18
Thomas Delbridge head mar 32 blacksmith
Caroline wife 30 b. St Austle
Thomas son 8
Mary dau 6
Elizth dau 6
Jane dau 2 mo
all born St Agnes except Caroline
You'll need the marriage cert to be sure.
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There is also this 1871 entry
Mary Delbridge 29 b St Agnes not Hayle - wife of miner in Brazil
Thomas 3 b Gwennap
Caroline 1b Gwennap
RG10 Piece 2313 Folio 19 Page 1
This would appear to be the wife and family of the Thomas with parents Thomas & Caroline
However - if you are looking for a Thomas Delbridge b St Agnes 1846 - - there is another possibility
You need the marriage cert
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There is an 1867 marriage on freebmd in Redruth - Thomas Delbridge to either Mary Jane Roberts or Catherine Man Johns
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V51Z-B5F
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I think the parents as John & Frances are more likely for the Thomas born 1846. They are in Phillack in 1861 and son Thomas is a blacksmith. By 1871 Thomas and wife Mary J are in Forden Montgomeryshire. Do you have certs to be sure which Thomas & Mary you're descended from?
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Thank you all for all the great leads. I agree that I probably had the parents of Thomas Delbridge incorrect. The 1871 census evidence with Thomas that Osprey mentions is definitely my great great grandfather. The wife and children are correct as is the profession. He died in California in 1886, age 40 and his profession was well-documented as a blacksmith.
I do now have a marriage certificate link. They were Methodists. I believe they were married in 1866 but can't be certain right now.
Thanks again for all the efforts!
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do you have a birth certificate for one of the children to confirm Mary's maiden name so that you can be sure you're following the right family?
Ellen Delbridge jun qtr 1869 Redruth vol 5c pg 274
When you've confirmed the maiden name, you can be sure of the marriage. Certs available from the GRO
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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Thanks so much for the tips. I am 100% sure that the mother was Mary Jane Ingram. The daughter, Ellen, you reference was indeed born 31 May 1869 in Hayle. Ellen stayed in California after her father died and the mother returned to England. Ellen had married another Cornish transplant, William Tresidder. Ellen was always in the same town as her sister, Mary Frances Delbridge Johns, until the sister died and then always quite close to her brother in law. The Delbridges in England remain somewhat of a mystery. I did have the wrong parents, though, and am glad to find out otherwise.
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1841 census
Mingoose vain, St Agnes HO107/149/3 folio 13 pg 19
John Delbridge 20 tin miner
Frances 20
Mary 3 months
all born in county
CaroleW has given you the 1851 when the family was in Crowan
1861 Hallenkein, Phillack RG9/1586 folio 33 pg 27
John Delbridge head mar 43 copper miner b. St Agnes
Frances wife 41 b. St Agnes
John son 19 copper miner b. St Agnes
Thomas son 15 Blacksmith b. St Agnes
Isaac son 13 copper miner b. Crowan
William son 11 b. Crowan
James son 9 b. Crowan
Jabez son 6 b. Phillack
Matilda dau 3 b. Phillack
Elizabeth Nicholas mother-in-law widow 67 b. St Agnes
marriage ref
John Delbridge sep qtr Truro vol 9 pg 319 with Frances Nicholas on the same page
Frances was buried 25-2-1869 in Phillack, abode given as Bodriggy, age as 49.
John also buried in Phillack 8-3-1882, aged 64, abode Guildford.
Possible baptism for Francis Nicholas, 28-3-1821 in St Agnes, transcribed as son of Isaac, miner, and Elizabeth Nicholas, abode Mount Hawke. They had already had a daughter named Frances who died aged 2 in 1818. The register shows 'dr of'
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11610-165623-33?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-VH8:n733885015
You can use the opc database to search for Isaac Nicholas in St Agnes
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/
If you use Nic for the surname, it will find variants. Marriage to Elizabeth Mollard, his burial and possbile baptism are there as is Elizabeth's baptism in 1793.