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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Anglesey => Topic started by: stephenllanber on Sunday 20 October 13 15:03 BST (UK)
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Hi
I have found the will of an ancestor who died in 1785 which states that he lived at Penygroes in the parish of Llanedwen.
I cannot find where this address is.
Does anyone know where this address may relate to.
May have been an Inn or connected to brewing. The husband left a few brewing items behind and the wife was described as Innkeeper
diolch/thanks
Stephen
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There is a Llanedwen in Anglesey between LLanfairpwll and Brynsiencyn but I do not know of an inn - it is a small hamlet with a church and a few houses near to the sea.
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Hi Gilly
Thanks for replying.
I have looked at the small hamlet.
I believe there was a ferry between Moel y Don and Felinheli before Menai Suspension bridge was built.
Could be that Penygroes Llanedwen catered to passing travelers.
Would very much like to know where in the parish it was located.
regards
Stephen
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Could your ancestor be a brewer for the Marquess of Anglesey as the main estate is his home at the parish of Llanedwen Plas newydd
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Thanks.
One line of investigation I need to look into. Penygroes does seem an unusual name for an Inn
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Hi Stephen,
I have seen your queries on my post regarding Richard Evans of Llanedwen and thought this a more appropriate topic on which to reply to you. I don't have answers to your questions but.....
There were 2 Crown Ferries in the vicinity - Moel-y-Don and Tal -y Foel (plus several others on the coastline). if you so wish, you can update yourself on them in a recent book called "Crossing the Menai" by Reg Chambers Jones.
This is an illustrated history of the ferries and bridges of the Menai Straits,. As well as a chapter on the Moel-y-Don ferry there is also a chapter on early travel in North West Wales, and several old photographs.
At Moel-y-Don, there was an inn Ty'n-y-Borth (previously known as the Cutter Inn, and at Tal-y-Foel, the Mermaid Inn (previously known as the Menai Hotel). My family were ferrymen for 3 generations at Tal-y-Foel and there is a picture in the book of the crew of PS Arvon circa 1913 which includes my grandfather.
If i can help further please let me know.
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Thanks for your reply. I will have to go to the library in Caernarfon to see if they have a copy of the book. I will have a look out for your Grandfather.
many thanks
Stephen
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There is a later will for a family of the name of McKinsey or McKenzie with an address of Penygroes,Llanedwen.In the 1841 census there is a Kenneth and Cathrine Mckenzer(?) in Llanedwen,with Kenneth described as a merchant seaman.Interestingly in 1851 Cathrine is a widow described as "keeping public house" and her address is given as Boat House Llanedwen.
Regards
Roger
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Looking at surrounding properties in the 1851 census,the Boat House and,separately the Boat Inn referred to can be found at www.old-maps.co.uk using the search term - Pwll Fanogle -when the map loads choose the 1889 1:2500 historical equivalent map from the list on the right.Then use inbuilt magnifier or Windows Zoom to enhance if necessary
Regards
Roger
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There is a current property called Pen Y Groes at Brynsiencyn,postcode LL61 6SX.It can be seen(just about) at www.old-maps.co.uk using the postcode as the search term,choosing the property and loading the 1:2500 1920 map.
It also features in censuses under Llanidan parish.
Regards
Roges
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Many Thanks Roger,
I had not looked as far afield and this looks like a very strong candidate. Looked at it on street view, may very well have been an Inn in the past. Had a look at the 1841 census, looked to have been a private house, home to a Joiner and his family.
cheers
Stephen
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I noticed in another thread that you thought there might be an alternate name- Groeslon.
There is "Y Groeslon" Hotel Brynsiencyn very close by at postcode LL61 6TU.Looking at old maps this may also have been known as The Bull Inn at one time.
Regards
Roger