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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: James2you on Saturday 19 October 13 17:14 BST (UK)
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Not sure at all with this one, anyone who specialises in the Suffolk area, really appreciate the help
Thanks
John
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Hello John
Other than a year, which I assume could be her approx birth year you haven't given us much to go on :)
From the Suffolk marriage Index I can see an Ann Sparrow marrying Henry Sones 17 Jun 1816 at Horham or a much later one in 1836 at Chediston to James Crisp.
Do either of these fit with what you have? Lots of Sparrow families in Suffolk if you can narrow it down a bit it would be very helpful.
K
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Hi, sorry about that, I think she wed a Nathanial Taylor 1818, Little Cornard,Parva, Suffolk, they had a daughter Ann Hannah Taylor born 1818. I am not 100% about it though, that is why I don`t give out too much in case it is not correct.
Thanks again
John
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It does help, John, if you give us as much info as you have; that way it saves us wasting time trying to find things that you already know. Sparrow is not an uncommon name in Suffolk. Indeed, the Ancient House in Ipswich was originally known, if my memory serves me correctly, as Sparrow's House since it was built by a member of the Sparrow(e) family.
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Coming a bit late to this, as I have only just joined this forum!
Ann (or Anne) Sparrow, daughter of Newman Sparrow and his wife Sarah (late Constable) was baptised at Little Cornard on 26th October 1794. It seems very likely that she was the one who married Nathaniel Taylor (of Great Cornard) at Little Cornard on 9th February 1818. I had not picked that one up in my researches into Suffolk Sparrows. My branch moved to Surrey in the 1860s.
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Thanks for that Mohican, I am interested in learning more about the Sparrows House that you mentioned, & of course the Sparrow family.
Thanks again
John
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Welcome to Rootschat, Mohican. That's useful information you have given to John.
Regards
GS
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I really would like to thank everyone for their help with my Sparrow family & I would love to learn more, but for now thanks, also going to start again on my Tobin Family tomorrow.
Like I said , thanks all
Time for a glass of vino
cheers
John
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Wait, there's a bit more! I also have the baptisms for that part of Suffolk, and I can say that the marriage is definite because I have seen the list of children, and the eldest was named Newman William Taylor - Ann's father was Newman Sparrow. Also interesting that when Newman Sparrow died, he was called a gentleman, and in the baptism register Nathaniel Taylor is twice described as a gentleman, several times as a farmer, and once as a husbandman. Clearly neither man was a mere "ag.lab.", though gentleman was probably stretching things a bit.
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Hi Mohican, I have been trying to get actual facts about this side for some time, can you give BMD for dad Newman & his parents, perhaps his occupation, you also mentioned a Nathaniel Sparrow, his BMD,
Thanks again Mohican
John
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No problem! This what I have:-
Newman Sparrow was baptised at Little Cornard on 19 Feb 1755. He married Sarah Constable on 28 Oct 1786, at a slightly later age than was usual. He died in 1824 and was buried in Little Cornard on 29th October, said to be 69 and described as “gentleman”. His widow died the same year, and was buried on 20th December, said to be 61: she was probably the Sarah, daughter of William and Sarah Constable, who was baptised at Great Cornard on 26 Aug 1763. Newman and Sarah had at least eight children, including Ann b.1794, and three of their sons carried on the line.
The parents of Newman Sparrow may have been Robert (d.1786) and Ann (d.1765), but I have no definite proof of that.
The Nathaniel I mentioned was your Nathaniel Taylor. It seems he was son of William and Sarah Taylor, baptised at Great Cornard on 7 Jun 1792, mother’s maiden name Nice - but perhaps you already know that.
The children of Nathaniel Taylor and his wife Ann Sparrow were all baptised at Little Cornard:-
Newman William Taylor on 11 Mar 1819 - father described as Gentleman of Great Cornard
Robert Taylor on 1 Jan 1821 - father described as Gentleman of Great Cornard
Ann Horner Taylor on 24 Feb 1825 - father described as farmer of Little Cornard
Harriot Ester Taylor on 5 Sep 1826 - father described as farmer of Great Cornard
Arthur Crish Taylor on 30 Jun 1828 - father described as farmer of Great Cornard
Charles Edgar Taylor on 14 Mar 1830 - father described as husbandman of Little Cornard
I’ve just noticed that a generation later Newman William Taylor was always described as a farmer when his children were baptised. I have not studied the Taylors, so I can say no more about them.
It was someone else who mentioned the Sparrow House. I know nothing about it, so I can’t help you there.
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The Ipswich Journal (Ipswich, England), Saturday, March 14, 1857; Issue 6149.
Died: 5th instant, aged 65, very suddenly, Mr. John Newman Sparrow, of Little Cornard, near Sudbury.
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Wednesday, March 11, 1857; Issue 1369. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
Deaths: March 5th, suddenly, at Peacock Hall, Cornard Parva, Suffolk, in the 66th year of his age, John Newman Sparrow, Esq., some years resident at Ipswich.
The Ipswich Journal (Ipswich, England), Saturday, December 21, 1872; Issue 7070.
The Will of Rev. Edwin Sidney, Rector of Cornard Parva has been proved by his executors, John Vaughan etc. His estate was sworn at £20,000. The deceased who had no family, leaves the income derivable from the whole estate to his widow and ……………..to Mr. Newman SPARROW, farmer, another parishioner, two cottages, and an acre of land.
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, August 31, 1838; Issue 400. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Par
Deaths: 28th inst., at his residence, Cornard, near Sudbury, Mr. Nathaniel Taylor, youngest son of Wm. Taylor, Esq., of the former place.
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, November 22, 1839; Issue 464. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
Sportsmen?
SUDBURY: Mr. J. S. Gooday & Mr. W. B. Smith having at the last court carried a resolution that notices should be served on Messrs William Sparrow & Nathaniel Taylor of Cornard not to trespass upon Common Lands in playing cricket or any other game, and if they did proceedings at law would be taken against them.
Is this the Ann you are talking about?
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, November 08, 1844; Issue 724. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
DEATHS: On Friday last at Stone Farm, Cornard, in the 51st year of her age, Ann, relict of Mr. Nathaniel Taylor.
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, November 15, 1844; Issue 725. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
On Thursday, the 31st ult., in Holy Trinity, Grays Inn, John Charles Moor, Esq., Lieutenant, late of the Hon. East India Company, to Harriet Esther youngest daughter of the late Nathaniel Taylor, Esq., of Cornard, Suffolk.
Tom
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An interesting collection, especially the bit about cricket :)
I'm pretty sure the Ann who died must be the one discussed in this thread.
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Hi Guys, thanks for the help, now I am a little confused over who she actually wed, I did have her down as spouse to Nathaniel Taylor, but he wed (I think !!) Ann Wooden in Great Yarmouth, can anyone confirm or dismiss either ?
Thanks again.
John
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A little odd, as you were the first in this thread to suggest Nathaniel Taylor married Ann Sparrow :)
If you look back at the information in replies 10 and 11, there is no doubt that Nathaniel Taylor of Cornard married Ann Sparrow of Cornard in 1818, but only you can be sure, from your own researches, whether this Nathaniel was your Nathaniel.
FreeREG has a marriage of a Nathaniel Taylor to Ann Wooden at Great Yarmouth on 2 Oct 1811, but there is no reason to think this was the same Nathaniel Taylor - though of course Ann Wooden Taylor could have died before 1818. By the travel standards of those days (for most people), Great Yarmouth was a long way from Little Cornard. Taylor was a common name, and Nathaniel was much more common that it is today.
Just for the record, the Nathaniel Taylor who married Ann Sparrow died in 1838 and was buried at Little Cornard. His widow was there with their children in the 1841 census. She died in 1844, as mentioned in the newspaper in reply 11.
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If you do decide that your Nathaniel Taylor married Ann Sparrow, then Newman William Taylor, born 1819 in Little Cornard was still hale and hearty in 1881, very active in the village of Sudbury as a bell ringer and playing first violin. Sometimes with the marriages before 1837 you have to take certain things on trust, I have learnt that you can't prove everything.
Tom