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Title: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Saturday 19 October 13 10:10 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am trying to find some information about Robert Barwise born 1883 in Liverpool in relation to his merchant navy services.
thanks to anyone that can help here
c.b
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Saturday 19 October 13 17:06 BST (UK)
Is there any information regarding Robert Barwise regarding his spell in the merchant navy? In the war and post war 1920`s.
thanks alot
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 19 October 13 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi,

This might help:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/merchantseamanafter1917.htm



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: seaweed on Saturday 19 October 13 18:13 BST (UK)
There are various records from 1919 until 1940  on Find my Past including a photograph.  His NOK is given as his sister Mrs Miller. If you think it his him. You need to download them and come back for some interpretation of the numbers which will equate into the names of ships. His DOB is given as 1883 and 1888 but I am sure this is a typo as the Discharge A numbers are the same.
There is a WW1 medal listing for him here
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D7975532
download for £3.36 so he must have had service in WW1.
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Saturday 19 October 13 18:35 BST (UK)
Is there any chance I could see those findmypast records. The ww1 medal record shows his address as Carolina street Liverpool this is correct as he died there 1940 as then he was an air raid warden and was killed by the blast. The Mrs miller also fits as this is Margaret Barwise who married john Thomas miller.
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: seaweed on Saturday 19 October 13 21:25 BST (UK)
I would not like to compromise this site with copyright issues by attaching the information from FindMyPast.
You can pay £6.95 to get 60 credits which will allow you to access the information.
Once you have registered on FindMyPast, go to https://www.findmypast.co.uk/content/search-menu/education-and-work and scroll down to Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941.
Alternatively you can get copies of originals from
http://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-leisure/artsheritage/history/maritimehistory/centralindex.aspx
Cost you £15
Or free by visiting the National Archive and searching the series BT348, BT349 and BT350
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Saturday 19 October 13 22:27 BST (UK)
Is there any chance I could see those findmypast records. The ww1 medal record shows his address as Carolina street Liverpool this is correct as he died there 1940 as then he was an air raid warden and was killed by the blast. The Mrs miller also fits as this is Margaret Barwise who married john Thomas miller.
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: dawnsh on Saturday 19 October 13 23:05 BST (UK)
Hi Pabloabadul

Please note that your request for FindMyPast records is in contravention of the terms & conditions of posting on Rootschat.

(Taken from our Guidelines for Posting)

http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php

Do not ask for look-ups from commercial sources.
Most commercial sources have strict 'Terms of Use', which forbid publishing their data elsewhere, so asking for such look-ups is also asking people to ignore the 'Terms of Use'

If you are unable to purchase credits, check out your local library as a growing number are offering free access in house to FindMyPast including the British Library at St Pancras and the National Archives at Kew.

Dawn
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Sunday 20 October 13 16:05 BST (UK)
Is there a list showing which library's have access to findmypast in terms of these records. Which is not the British library or Kew.
thanks again
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Sunday 20 October 13 18:43 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me here I would be very grateful thanks
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 20 October 13 19:15 BST (UK)
You haven't updated your profile to show where in the world you are.

A city or county might help to locate a source near to you.

Dawn
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Sunday 20 October 13 19:26 BST (UK)
Cheshire/ Merseyside any sources on the wirral
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: JenB on Sunday 20 October 13 20:00 BST (UK)
Cheshire/ Merseyside any sources on the wirral

My local archivesoffer both Ancestry and findmypast for free, I suggest you 'google' for your local archives to see if they offer them as well. Some libraries also offer findmypast - again you could find this using google  :)
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Sunday 20 October 13 20:06 BST (UK)
The Wirral council does not specify whether they use findmypast or not. A search on google turns up nothing of any relevance to a town/city in a 50 mile radius.
thanks
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Sunday 20 October 13 21:03 BST (UK)
can anyone help me here thanks?
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 20 October 13 21:37 BST (UK)
I used google and found these

Wirral library has Ancestry and newspapers

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/my-services/leisure-and-culture/libraries/online-reference-resources

I think some of these are within 50miles

http://www.cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk/residents/libraries/find_a_library.aspx

their family history resources are here

http://www.cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk/residents/libraries/virtual_reference_library.aspx

How far are you from Liverpool?

http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries/archives-family-history/
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Sunday 20 October 13 22:05 BST (UK)
For the Liverpool central library it says "You can also use our computers to search 'Ancestry' and 'Find My Past' websites for free. All research facilities are open during normal Central opening hours." Does this mean it covers the full subscription to these sites on the conputers or just search facilities
thanks
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 20 October 13 22:11 BST (UK)
They should give you access to all the search results. Why don't you phone them tomorrow and ask?

(I do know that some libraries don't have access to the recent electoral registers)
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: cemetery friends on Monday 21 October 13 09:08 BST (UK)
in the main libraries are funded by local council tax payers. Any subscription service has to be paid for out of the council tax and such facilities are intended for residents of the borough or city holding a library card. Different councils chose whether or not to offer on line facilities. If your own borough does not offer access to a particular search facility you would not normally be able to access from libraries in a neighbouring borough which may offer free access. You also have to weigh up your time and travel costs against the £6-95 for purchasing credits for your personal access.
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Monday 21 October 13 09:34 BST (UK)
ok, so there is no possible way to do it unless credits are bought just to verify.
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 21 October 13 14:19 BST (UK)
Sorry to disagree, cemetery friends, but I have library cards for 3 local authorities but I am only resident in 1. I find that all 3 libraries have different selections of books.

The nearest library to me, about 2 miles, is in a different local authority.

My own local authority library is about 3 miles away.

I have had no problems signing up to the library services with any of them. I also have no problem popping into any of them and using their internet services.

My daughter joined a neighbouring authority library this summer because they have a sheet music department, again no problem.

I suggested yesterday that you give them a ring. My advice still stands.
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: JenB on Monday 21 October 13 14:28 BST (UK)
ok, so there is no possible way to do it unless credits are bought just to verify.

As Dawn says, if any of the libraries are near to you please either phone them or email them to find out their policy for yourself  :)

If any do offer free access it could be worth your while to do several look-ups  :)
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Monday 21 October 13 17:41 BST (UK)
So in the case of the central library at Liverpool would I be able to access the details even though I am not in their borough or would I need a card to access the details?
 
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 21 October 13 17:56 BST (UK)
Once again-

As Dawn says, if any of the libraries are near to you please either phone them or email them to find out their policy for yourself  :)
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Monday 21 October 13 18:12 BST (UK)

Via the phone they said it would not be possible without a library card from that borough
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 21 October 13 18:40 BST (UK)
so you go to the nearest library in that area, or central library in Liverpool, and you apply to become a library member.

http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries/join-a-library/
Title: Re: Robert Barwise
Post by: Pabloabadul on Monday 21 October 13 19:18 BST (UK)
Seems to much trouble for the sake of one small record. Which I am trying to obtain for Robert`s niece who is trying to compile a family photo album.
thanks