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Title: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: jeune-romantique on Tuesday 15 October 13 10:49 BST (UK)
Hey Guys,

I was wondering if anyone was able to assist me - I am trying to locate John McCune and his parents John and Jane in the 1901 and 1911 census or in any other records. John was born in Dublin in about 1896. John married Elizabeth Murray in 1917 in South Dublin but that is all I am able to find. John and Elizabeth had three children - John Aloysius McCune in 1918, Bernard Joseph McCune in 1920 and Maureen Patricia McCune in 1921. The family emigrated to Australia in 1926 aboard the Demosthenes from London.

The surname doesn't appear to be that common so I wondered if the surname is something slightly different but have had no luck with McKeon, McCann and other similar surnames (can't recall all the ones I have tried).

Any assistance and advice appeared! Thanks :)
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 15 October 13 14:32 BST (UK)
Are you 100% on his mother’s name?
Possible birth (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/9558700264596)
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: trelawn1984 on Tuesday 15 October 13 17:35 BST (UK)
Any idea where in dublin they may have lived? Even an approximation?
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: taramcdsmall on Tuesday 15 October 13 20:05 BST (UK)
Hi There

There's a different father's name on that possibility too 'myluck'.

Are you postive re both his parent's names 'jeune' ?

Tara
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: jeune-romantique on Wednesday 16 October 13 00:18 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help guys.

I am not 100% on his father's names - they are taken from his death certificate, and the informant was one of his sons.

John's (junior's) full name is John Stephen McCune. I don't know anything more about his parents.

I only know where his wife Elizabeth was living before she married John Stephen McCune - 11 Upper Leeson Street in Dublin.
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: annclare on Wednesday 16 October 13 23:22 BST (UK)

I am not 100% on his father's names - they are taken from his death certificate, and the informant was one of his sons.
John's (junior's) full name is John Stephen McCune. I don't know anything more about his parents.

I only know where his wife Elizabeth was living before she married John Stephen McCune - 11 Upper Leeson Street in Dublin.
Did you get the marriage cert from 1917 as it would confirm John Stephen's father's name and possibly occupation that might help with census search.
annclare
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: dathai on Thursday 17 October 13 21:16 BST (UK)
Wonder if John senior was in the military family could be enumerated using the initial systen i e MC for MCUNE and J for John.
also not sure if you noticed this child death
Anne Veronica McCune
Death  Apr June Dublin South
1925 age 1
vol 2 page 329.
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 17 October 13 23:22 BST (UK)
Maybe they weren't in Ireland, has the Uk census been searched.
A military record would be worth looking for as well, the family could have gone to where he was posted.
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 22 October 13 19:43 BST (UK)
Marriage St Nichols 3rd August 1847
Patrick Murray to Maria Brennan witnesses Thos McShane,Cathy Delaney no other details given.

Marriage St Marys Pro Cathedral 26 Nov 1881
Bernard Murray son of the above deceased as of 1881 10 UPR Abbey St to
Teresa Gahan dtr of William Gahan and Eliza McAneany also decd
witnesses Christopher Grant,8 Arnott st,Dympna Gahan 10 upr Abbey St.

1901 census Lily Murray age 7 at 28.1 Cuffe St with above parents.
1911 census Elizabeth Murray age 18 100 Leeson St Upr

Marriage St Andrews 18th April 1917
Elizabeth Murray 23 Sth King St dtr of Bernard Murray bootmaker to
John McCune,Stoker H M S Princess Mary son John McCune decd witnesses her brother and sister Edward and Mary Murray.

Possible ship Princess Mary11
Built in 1911 by Day ,Summers & Co Southampton
first owned by IOW&S of England Royal Mail Steam Packet Co.
Taken over by the Royal Navy Admiralty and used as a minesweeper, survived the war but was sank off the Darndales circa 1919 after hitting a submerged wreck.
This will have to be your next step finding records for the above ship and whether John was in the Navy or a Civilian worker.
Best of luck with your search, regards Dathai.
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: jeune-romantique on Wednesday 23 October 13 00:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your help everyone!

I will see how I go from here!

Very much appreciated.
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: crimea1854 on Wednesday 23 October 13 07:40 BST (UK)
There is only one J McCune on the medal roll for WW1, and he was a stoker in the RNR. His service record can be downloaded for £3.36.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8542700 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8542700)

There is also a RN service record for a John McCune, possibly the father? Unfortunately neither is likely to contain any family information.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D6696210 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D6696210)

Martin
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: ausie on Friday 25 October 13 12:28 BST (UK)
John Stephen McCune was orphaned when he was young.  He died in 1956 in Fremantle, Western Australia.  This is why his parents weren't in the 1911 census.  Only Bernard Joseph McCune is still alive.
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: ausie on Friday 01 November 13 09:14 GMT (UK)

John Stephen McCune was actually born in Belfast (not Dublin) on 26/12/1895.  His mother died when he was 6 months old of dropsy and his father also died when he was very young. (I don't know when.) John moved to Dublin when he was three years old and lived with his godmother.  John was the youngest child. He had four sisters and a brother- Nelly, Susan, Maggie, Annie and Robert who were brought up in Catholic orphanages in Northern Ireland.  Robert died in WW1 from injuries at the Battle of Somme in France.  Does any body know what happened to his mother, father and sisters or where the family is now?  Thank you. 
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: natalieann1978 on Tuesday 08 April 14 11:25 BST (UK)
Hi Jeune, I'm writing as I'm related to you in some way I believe. John Aloysius McCune was my grandfather as he adopted 3 sons Kevin George, Darrell Arthur and Malcolm Ian Bloomer belonging to my grandmother Dorothy Florence May Mullenger.  I'm Kevin's daughter, born in 1978. Sadly I can't help you with any new leads as I'm fairly new to the family, having grown up with my mother, and was estranged from my father (long story). However, I love family history so the information in your post I found very interesting. Would love to hear from you as wasn't aware of any family living in Brisbane. I'm from Perth. natalieann1978@westnet.com.au Cheers, Natalie :-)
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 08 April 14 13:04 BST (UK)
Based on ausie's information that John Stephen MC CUNE was born in Belfast in Dec 1895 the following maybe of interest to you all

Link to civil reference for Marriage of John M’CUNE to Jane M’NALLY in 1885 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYWD-PZL)
From a paid site that you can search you will find the family births as
1886 Ellen
1888 Annie
1889 Susan
1891 Margaret
1893 Robert
1895 John - Civil Birth Reference Belfast Oct-Dec 1895 Volume 1 Page 164

There is a death of a Jane M’CUNE aged 38 in Belfast Apr-Jun 1896 Volume 1 Page 125
which all ties in

There is no obvious 1901 census entry for John in Dublin with his godmother
If you know her name you may be able to locate him
Title: Re: John McCune, Dublin - Marriage and Census
Post by: gilnockiefarm on Monday 23 February 15 09:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Jeune,
We live in Perth. John McCune was my husbands uncle. His mother was Maureen Ptricia McCune. Anderson was her married name. Are you a member of the family.

Jan