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Title: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: kelly on Monday 14 October 13 11:19 BST (UK)
I have a query regarding a possible baptism for my 4 x great grandfather, Thomas Farr/Fare/Fayer. I know from later census data and other sources relating to the time when he was living in Cornwall after leaving the Royal Marines, that he was born c.1790 in Coventry and that his father was a miner called Thomas Farr.
 The only possible baptism I have been able to find for him is in Foleshill (which I understand is near to Coventry?). However, the parish register shows the baptism of Thomas Farr, son to Thomas O'Hayre and Hannah O'Hayre. Am I looking at a middle name here (none of the other baptism entries on the page show middle names) or could this be the Thomas Farr I'm looking for?  If so, why would he have a different name from his parents?  Any help much appreciated
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 14 October 13 11:24 BST (UK)
I wonder if Hannah O'Hayre was previously a Farr - could you find her marriage to check?

Was Thomas a baby baptism or was he an older child?  If older maybe Thomas O' wasn't his real father  :-\
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: kelly on Monday 14 October 13 12:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Milliepede for the suggestions  :) I have tried various combinations of names for his parents' marriage in the past without success, but you have prompted me to look again! If the baptism is the one I am looking for then Thomas would definitely have been a baby as I know from his 2nd marriage cert. and his death cert. that he was born 1790.

Best wishes
Dorothy
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 14 October 13 20:30 BST (UK)
Sorry couldn't be of more help but good luck hope one day it all falls into place  :)
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: kelly on Monday 14 October 13 21:01 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help  :)
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: MargP on Monday 14 October 13 22:06 BST (UK)
Hi

Could he have been adopted, are there any other children for the O'Hayre's

Margp
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: MargP on Tuesday 15 October 13 09:11 BST (UK)
Hi

Here is the record from Familysearch

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQT2-75F

Have you seen the actual record, has it is transcribed differently on this records, it looks like a doubled barrelled name to me, and very often along the line, they lose one of them along the way, I have had situations where they have used, either or, which make the research difficult.

Other than that, it may be a mistake, when it was entered in the register by the Vicar  I believe these were just written down on a piece of paper, then entered later in the register and are prone to error's

Margp

Margp
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: kelly on Tuesday 15 October 13 10:16 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for this link. I hadn't seen this particular familysesrch record! I had only seen the record for O'Hayre on familysesrch and on Ancestry but, as you say, this entry looks much more like a double barrelled name for Thomas. I think I will keep this record as a 'definite maybe' for the time being.

Many thanks for your help.  :)

Dorothy
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: kelly on Tuesday 15 October 13 10:19 BST (UK)
Apologies for the mis-spelling of familysearch - can't get used to the keyboard on this tablet computer  :o
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 15 October 13 11:31 BST (UK)
There's something odd going on with this Vicar.
There are a number of entries for boys that all have surnames for middle names.
None of the girls are listed like that & no normal middle names are listed for anyone.
A couple are illegitimate but the others are to couples.
On the same page as Thomas Farr:
John Cotton s. of Jas. & Cath. Green
John Atkins s. of Wm. & Gracie Taylor pauper
John Sergeant s. of Hannah Holloway pauper
Geo. Taylor spurious s. of Martha Brooks pauper
This practice is peculiar to this Vicar during his tenure
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: MargP on Tuesday 15 October 13 11:57 BST (UK)
Hi

It looks like the Vicar had, had one too many

Margp
Title: Re: Thomas FARR baptism query, Foleshill
Post by: kelly on Tuesday 15 October 13 12:38 BST (UK)
Thank you for this info Jim1. How fascinating.  I've never come across anything like this before. (Perhaps the Vicar had been at the communion wine  ;D ).

Best wishes
Dorothy