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Title: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Sunday 13 October 13 11:43 BST (UK)
Hi To All.
I am trying to locate the Family of Lillian Gould Nee Norris.
She was born in Somerset,UK in 1897.
Lillian Married George Gould while he was serving in the ww1.
Lillian and George married in Axbridge,Somerset in 1916.
Lillian Emigrated to New Zealand after WW1.
I am trying to fill that part of the tree.
Any info would be very helpful.
Regards
Jedi james
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: suzard on Sunday 13 October 13 12:08 BST (UK)
On marriage reg Lillian has the middle initial "M"

so could this be her

Lilian May Gould  age 49 occ Housewife
departed New York USA on the ship "Largo Bay"
arrived London 22 April 1947
last permanent address was New Zealand
address in England "Catcott" near Bridgwater Somerset c/o/Mrs Norris

Lilian M Gould age 60 no occupation
departed London Dec 1947 on the Empire Star
for Wellington New Zealand
last permanent address New Zealand

is this of interest?

Suz
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Sunday 13 October 13 13:55 BST (UK)
Hi Suzard.
Thanks for that info but it looks like they are the wrong Lillian, She went from UK to New Zealand after WW! not WW2.Please advise if further info comes up.
Regards
Jedi james.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: suzard on Sunday 13 October 13 14:49 BST (UK)
What was her middle name? She had the initial M on marriage

Did George go with her?? On marriage he had the middle initial "A" - it helps with the search if you could post middle names

I thought the information I gave would be her (age is almost correct, she was staying with Mrs Norris in Bridgewater- did her Norris family live at that address in 1947?
Her permanent address when she arrived in London April 1947 was "New Zealand"
She stayed with Mrs Norris
When she departed for Wellington New Zealand Dec 1947 her permanent address was "New Zealand"

Didn't think this was her emmigration - but thought it may have been a visit "home"

Suz
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Sunday 13 October 13 15:00 BST (UK)
Hi Suzard.
Thanks for that.
Maybe she was on Holiday.
Is there any other info in New Zealand for her,
Did she have any children,Grand children etc.
Regards
Jedi James
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: suzard on Sunday 13 October 13 15:14 BST (UK)
Do you have the middle names???

And any further details on George A????

Did they both go to New Zealand?
Had he been previously married???

There are several Gould/Norris combinations - they are not uncommon names - so it is important to add any extra information you have - middle names /p.o.b./ George A's occupation
There are other Mr & Mrs George Gould's going to New Zealand
Any address's?

Who was Mrs Norris who lived at Catcott near Bridgwater Somerset ?
She might have gone out to visit George & Lilian -and could have put their address as her destination????

All kinds of possibilities giving more information??

Suz
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Sunday 13 October 13 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi Suzard.
The only info that I have is what I have put on the previous Message.
Sorry.
There a few mrs Norris living in Catcott at that time, It could be her Mother Mrs Euphemia Norris Nee Pasker.
Lillian Married George in 1916, as I have been informed is that they both went back to New Zealand after the First WOrld War.
As an occupation sorry I cannot help Further.
Regards
Jedi james
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: suzard on Sunday 13 October 13 17:12 BST (UK)
Have you looked at the marriage registration?
If so you should have the information that they both had middle names

Maybe it would be an idea to purchase the marriage cert -that would give ages occupation father's names etc - but it would mean you had a y.o.b. for George and what his occ was on marriage

I am struggling to find Lillian & George together

or George's military records

what do you mean by "they went BACK to New Zealand after WW1"? Did they live in New Zealand before???

Suz
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: suzard on Sunday 13 October 13 17:29 BST (UK)
there is a tree on A******y -don't know how well sourced it is
They have George A Gould b.c.1895 New Zealan
and Lilian May Gould died 5 Oct 1976 New Zealand age 79

Suz
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 13 October 13 19:01 BST (UK)
We have a Lilian May Gould who died on 5.10.1976, d.o.b.13.6.1896

This entry appears on the New Zealand BDM website........

www.dia.govt.nz


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 13 October 13 20:27 BST (UK)
If we have the correct Lilian Gould...........

A burial for her at Birkenhead/Glenfield cemetery. Here her d.o.d. is recorded as 1.10.1976. Aged 79 years.

In the same cemetery, but a different plot*, George Alexander Gould, buried 1.7.1972. He was aged 85 years.

(*Buried in the Returned Services part of the cemetery.)

Funeral directors in both cases were Dil's Funeral Services.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 13 October 13 21:26 BST (UK)
There is a probate for

BBAE 1570/2852  P3101/1976  GOULD Lilian May - Auckland - Widow   1976     Akld
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=13088021

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 13 October 13 21:46 BST (UK)
A birth on NZ BDM's

1886/18453 Gould  George Alexander to Nelly Maria and Samuel

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 13 October 13 23:08 BST (UK)
It may be helpful to obtain the newspaper death notices for the Lilian May & George Alexander Gould we have found.

If requested, I can do these later in the week.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Sunday 13 October 13 23:24 BST (UK)
I am going to the North Shore sometime this week and could check the cemetery

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Beg Clonrode... on Sunday 13 October 13 23:41 BST (UK)
Hello...

Archives Australia have the service record of a George GOULD who married a Lily MORRIS (NORRIS?) of Cheddar on 21 May 1916 in Uxbridge. Cheddar is in Somerset.

Does any of that sound close?

Go here...

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx (http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx)

...and click on "Search the Collection".

Then in the Keywords box type Gould 199

On the result page click on "View Digital Copy" (right hand side of the page)

Then go to page 7

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The birthplace of Geraldine ties in with his maternal grandmother.

PapersPast
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0whg/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0whg/)

PapersPast
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0whh/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0whh/)

Regards
Beg
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Monday 14 October 13 06:51 BST (UK)
Hi To Janette, Minnie Haha, Suzard,
Thanks for your help.
I just need to find any children that Lillian and George had.
Lillian was a distant Relative to my Wife and Lillian also had 5 Sibling's that emigrated to the USA.
Thanks Again to you 3 .
Keep up the good work.
Regards
Jedi James
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 October 13 06:56 BST (UK)
Hi Jedi James

Minniehaha has offered to look up the newspaper death notices and I could check the headstones for family names,would you like us to do this for you?

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Monday 14 October 13 12:43 BST (UK)
To Janette & Minniehaha.
Yes please if you could find any info on the Family that would be Very Helpful.
Thank you Ladies for the Help so far.
Lookforward to your helop.
Regards
Jedi james
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Monday 14 October 13 12:45 BST (UK)
To Janette & Minniehaha.
What is your location.
Are you Two in Newzealand ?
I am in the UK.
Cheers
Jedi James
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: cath151 on Monday 14 October 13 13:17 BST (UK)
Hi
There is a Mrs L Gould (26, Housewife) travelling to Wellington with Reg Gould (child 5) o the Tainui on 18 Jan 1924.
Southampton to New Zealand
Address  King William Road, Calcott, Bridgewater.
There is a birth for a George R A Gould mmn Norris in 1918, Bridgewater..could that be Reg?

Cathy
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Jedi James on Monday 14 October 13 13:58 BST (UK)
Hi Cath151.
That looks Good, Every thing points to it being correct.
Keep up the good work.
Look forward to hearing from you again.
Regards
Jedi james
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 October 13 18:38 BST (UK)
There is a NZ death for the above

1986/44365 Gould  George Reginald Arthur  born 26 April 1918

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 October 13 18:42 BST (UK)

George Reginald Arthur  Gould was cremated at Purewa

http://purewa.need.co.nz/search.asp

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 14 October 13 18:52 BST (UK)
Hello,

I will also have a look for the death notice of George Reginald Arthur...........

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Beg Clonrode... on Tuesday 15 October 13 01:47 BST (UK)
Hello...

Headstone inscriptions from NZSG cemetery fiche B02.12 - Birkenhead/Glenfield Cemetery


Australian Light Horse 119 NZEF 62948
George Alexander GOULD
Born 23 Sept 1986 Died 29 June 1972
Lovingly remembered

*Possibly transcription errors
119 should be 199
1986 should be 1886

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Lilian May GOULD
Dearly loved wife of the late George GOULD
And loved mother of Reg and Dick
Died 5 October 1976
Aged 79 years

Dick is most likely Richard Samuel GOULD d.14 Oct 2010

Regards
Beg
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 15 October 13 02:12 BST (UK)
Richard Samuel was cremated at Waikumete

http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/cnlser/cm/cemeterysearch/default.aspx

Death notice PMed to Jedi James

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 15 October 13 06:21 BST (UK)
Hi Jedi,

Hope this is of help with placing your couple in NZ.   The earliest I can see them on the NZ Electoral Roll is for the year 1928, living in Selwyn Road, Parnell, Auckland with George being a labourer. 

If you have access to A******y, you can look at the Electoral Rolls for the following years.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 18 October 13 01:37 BST (UK)
Hello,

I have the newspaper death notices. Could you send your e-mail address by PM please..........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 19 October 13 00:58 BST (UK)
Hello,

The following newspaper death notices have been sent to your e-mail address:

1.Lilian May GOULD, died 5.10.1976

2.George Arthur GOULD, died 29.6.1972

3.George Reginald Arthur GOULD, died 12.9.1986.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: smithy47 on Thursday 24 October 13 20:06 BST (UK)
Hi Are you still
 searching for information on Lillian Norris Gould or any of her siblings ?
I have a very very large amount of info on this family.
Regards
Kay
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Janette on Thursday 24 October 13 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi Kay,

It might pay to PM Jedi James so you can exchange email addies,

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Gouldie on Wednesday 29 April 15 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi, i am probably too late to be of any help on this one but Lillian Gould (nee Norris) was my Grandmother. Lillian and George had 2 sons, George Reginald and Richard Samual.  Richard Gould was my Father.       Lillian and George had 4 Grandchildren.     
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: SoilsEng on Saturday 29 October 22 01:25 BST (UK)
Gouldie,
I am the great grandson of Bessie Norris, sister of Lillian Gould (nee Norris). I am trying to get more information on the Gould family. I have been able to find quite a bit of information, but I wanted to see if I could verify the information that I have. I also am trying to help my dad's cousin, Cynthia Golfus, who is planning on a visit to New Zealand to connect with members of the Gould family. I believe that she has already been in touch with Bob and David.

Here is the information that I have for the descendants of George and Lillian Gould.

George Alexander Gould
b. Sept. 23, 1886
d. June 29, 1972
m. Lillian May Norris May 21, 1916

son - George Reginald (Arthur?) Gould
b. April 26, 2918 Catcott, Somerset, England
d. 1986 New Zealand

son - Richard "Dick" Samuel Gould
b. Nov. 28, 1924 Auckland, New Zealand
d. Oct. 14, 2010 Auckland, New Zealand
m. Marie ?

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Let me know if I have anything incorrect or if you can add anything. I have also started a new thread called searching for "Lillian Gould nee Norris".
Thanks,
SoilsEng



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Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 29 October 22 07:07 BST (UK)
Hello,

Just a wee note to say that you should, if possible, remove the name(s) of the living in your post as this is against Rootschat's rules......  :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 30 October 22 19:40 GMT (UK)

I have also started a new thread called searching for "Lillian Gould nee Norris".

New thread https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=866848
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Gouldie on Sunday 30 October 22 20:02 GMT (UK)
I am Gouldie. David Richard Gould. Grandson of Lillian. Best contact me by Facebook messenger. Dave Gould, Tutukaka Coast. New Zealand. I have been in contact with Cynthia Golfus.
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: spades on Monday 31 October 22 04:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Gouldie, and welcome back  ;)

Can i suggest that you reply once more to this topic (just a smiley icon will be fine) which will activate your Personal Message facility. They you and SoilsEng can exchange information and email addresses in confidence.

Regards,

Spades
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: Gouldie on Monday 31 October 22 05:42 GMT (UK)
 ;) :)
Title: Re: Searching for Lillian Gould nee Norris.
Post by: spades on Monday 31 October 22 07:25 GMT (UK)
Cool!

Now perhaps try to send a PM to SoilsEng and introduce yourself.

Here is the guide to using PM's:
https://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

If you need any help just post your questions here on this topic.
 
Regards,

Spades