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Austin Woodcock was a 2 yr old boy living on Cherry Lane, Lymm with his parents Henry (35) and Ann (24) Woodcock and his older sister Annie (4). His birthplace is given as Warrington
There is no sign of a birth for him via FreeBMD nor a baptism in the Lancashire Parish Chest.
I can't find anything in Cheshire Baptism Database. One possibility may be a baptism at Bowdon which I don't think is covered by the Database yet.
Could someone check for me, please, and/or suggest other options?
Reiver
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When was he a 2 year old boy ie what year? Is that from a census?
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It is the 1891 Census. RG12; Piece: 2827; Folio: 119; Page: 22
Stan
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Thanks Stan I see it.
Have you found a baptism for his sister, maybe they were done at the same time. Doesn't explain why no BMD entry, the one that keeps popping up was born Sheffield :-\
Have you got the family on a later census to see if Warrington is consistent?
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I see that dad was born in the USA,maybe Austin was born there too,and just got dittoed in 1891?
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Did he marry Sarah Hacking in 1924 in St Leonard Padiham,Lancs
Austin Woodcock aged 26 -Bachelor - Motor Car Driver from Lowerhouse ....where is this ??
Sarah Hacking aged 29 spinster from Inkerman Street ,Padiham
the age fits perfectly ...
ADDED...wrong Austin ...Lan-opc has his dad as Albert - Motor Mechanic
checking freebmd ....Lowerhouse and Padiham are both Burnley area
ADDED again - I can only find ONE Austin Woodcock b 1895-1900 and he is registered Barnsley,Yorkshire in 1898 ??
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1901 census:
henry Woodcock age 40, head, chimney sweep, born LIVERPOOL
Annie Sarah age 30, wife, born Gorton Lancs
Sarah annie age 14, daughter born Warrington
Austin, age 12, son born warrington
William Moores, age 2 son, born Leigh Lancs
Living at 22 queen Street Wigan.
Piece 3554, folio 161, page 2
I'm sure this must be the same family thoguh there are inconsistencies between the 2 censuses.
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Apologies...I thought he was 2 in 1901 - it should have been 12 ...will look again
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Yes, the info was from the 1891 census - but you have sorted that.
Henry Woodcock married Sarah Ann Shakeshaft in Dec Q 1888 (Warrington RD). Austin had an older sister shown on the 1891 Census as Annie (aged 4). An Annie Woodcock was registered in Warrington RD in Dec Q 1886 - before the marriage of Henry and Sarah Ann.
I am reluctant to obtain the certificates here as I have offered to help someone else who believes it is her family and especially that Austin Woodcock is hers. I hope to be seeing her tomorrow.
Though in the 1891 census Henry was recorded as being born in America in the 1901 he is recorded as born in Liverpool :D. in the 1901 the family - all four of them - were in Wigan, Lancashire. Ages tally and Austin is single and born in Warrington (as 1891). In 1911 he is on his own in Sheffield recorded as a nephew. The Head's wife's maiden surname was Woodcock. There is more to find out about this chap but as I said he is not really mine..
My main aim at the moment is to find a baptism . . . . . with help :) :)
Thanks Garstonite for your two most recent posts. They arrived while I was constructing this.
Regards
Reiver
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Yes, the info was from the 1891 census - but you have sorted that.
Henry Woodcock married Sarah Ann Shakeshaft in Dec Q 1888 (Warrington RD). Austin had an older sister shown on the 1891 Census as Annie (aged 4). An Annie Woodcock was registered in Warrington RD in Dec Q 1886 - before the marriage of Henry and Sarah Ann.
I am reluctant to obtain the certificates here as I have offered to help someone else who believes it is her family and especially that Austin Woodcock is hers. I hope to be seeing her tomorrow.
Though in the 1891 census Henry was recorded as being born in America in the 1901 he is recorded as born in Liverpool :D. in the 1901 the family - all four of them - were in Wigan, Lancashire. Ages tally and Austin is single and born in Warrington (as 1891). In 1911 he is on his own in Sheffield recorded as a nephew. The Head's wife's maiden surname was Woodcock. There is more to find out about this chap but as I said he is not really mine..
My main aim at the moment is to find a baptism . . . . . with help :) :)
Thanks Garstonite for your two most recent posts. They arrived while I was constructing this.
Regards
Reiver
Do you know this for a fact ??? Henry Woodcocks wife was Sarah Ann - why not Annie Sarah as stated in the census ?
if you can`t find a birth for Austin WOODCOCK ...
Could this be a possible ??
consider that ANNIE Sarah was his wifes name in 1901 - aged 30 ...daughter Sarah Annie aged 14
so Annie had Sarah aged 15 or 16 ..
COULD THIS BE HENRY AND ANNIE ??
1898 Henry Woodcock and ANNIE BUCK at St Marys,Walton on the Hill ,Liverpool
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
could Austin have been born Austin Buck ? - I couldn`t find Austin Buck - but it could be a mistranscription of Buck - Beck - Buick etc ...otherwise - where is Austin Woodcock ??...I think Sarah Annie and Austin were both given Annie`s maiden name - and that`s why you can`t find them ...Henry was TEN years older than Annie - and if she was 15/16 when Sarah Annie was born and Henry was married ....this may be the cause of the non existent baptism ...Austin Woodcock b 1887/88 Warrington doesn`t exist
Henry Woodcock b Liverpool
Henry Woodcock married in Liverpool is more feasible
you have my sympathy - this is a very difficult problem ....
I am not saying I am right
I am saying - if Austin Woodcock b Warrington 1887/88 cannot be found - that wasn`t his given birth name .
so you have to consider every possible option
the best of luck - you are going to need it - but don`t give up ...this is the REAL research ...the really difficult ones ;)
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What a lovely problem :) :) Many thanks for your input Garstonite. I hope to see the person I am trying to help tomorrow. in the meantime I'll reread what you have written and see . . . I'll be back ;D
Regards
Reiver
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Dont forget there is also a Austin Woodcock born 1888 Yorkshire.
I did find a Austin Wilcock born 1888. Try a little more research on that name, census ect.