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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: me2012 on Friday 04 October 13 18:21 BST (UK)
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Joseph and Mary Ann WARD
son: George born about 1859 Lanchester - (marries in Australia in 1879)
Little is know about Joseph and Mary Ward.
Joseph maybe be connected to John Ward born around 1827/ near Ewhurst?
Joseph is certainly a mystery.
Any help re: the Ward family - that maybe connect in the area, is appreciated, thank you. J.
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Hi is this Joseph and George in 1861?
Joseph Ward 30 Widower occ Coal Miner b Ryton, Durham
George 3 b Lanchester, Durham
Residing at 39, Craghead, Durham
Census Ref RG09/3735/6/9
Keyboard86
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Great minds Keyboard, I was just about to ask the same thing.
Add in the fact that the folk next door to this widower and his young son are another Joseph Ward (age 61) and his wife Margaret then it highly possible they were his parents.
Boo
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OK if this is Joseph in 1861, then in 1851:-
Joseph Ward 52 occ Coal Miner
Margaret 46
Thomas 23
Joseph 20
John 16 b Chester Le Street
William 9 b Gateshead
Residing at Edmondsley Edge, Chester Le Street
Census Ref HO107/2394/216/30
All other than shown b Ryton
Keyboard86
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Joseph is certainly a mystery.
Any help re: the Ward family - that maybe connect in the area, is appreciated, thank you. J.
Could you tell us what you 'do' know about him / his son? it does really help others if you start with what you know, that way we don't duplicate info and effort.
Boo
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George migrated to Australia around 1872 and married 1879 - (both parents were recorded as being deceased at the time of his coming to Australia). George's occupation was a coal miner in the Hunter Valley, Australia, and died 1903. It's believed that George's father Joseph was the son of a James Ward. The names that keep appearing in the early families are Joseph, Charles, Albert, William, John, Edward. Gertrude, Mary
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This seems to be his baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N1LH-MRK
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and this is the entry in the Bishop's Transcript:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wey/
which gives a birth date of 17th March (1859 assumed)
FreeBMD has a birth in Q1 1859 for a George Ward Durham 10a 243, when I checked that on the Durham Registrars own site and clicked through to the application form, they have a ref of DNLAN23-347 which would suggest it was in the Lanchester Register.
Possible marriage for Joseph Ward to a lady called Mary in Free BMD brings up spouse Mary Bradley in Q4 1858 Durham 10a 365.
If it were me I would order the birth cert above, specifying Dad's name Joseph Ward and mother's name Mary as checking points. Once I had that and knew the mother's maiden name, I would order the marriage cert and get bride and groom's fathers' names and occupations. We can make educated guesses from the records we see but, especially if this is your direct line, then I'd get the certificate.
Boo
Boo
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Hi is this Joseph and George in 1861?
Joseph Ward 30 Widower occ Coal Miner b Ryton, Durham
George 3 b Lanchester, Durham
Residing at 39, Craghead, Durham
Census Ref RG09/3735/6/9
Keyboard86
I see Joesph and Margaret Ward are living next door with sons, John aged 27 and William aged 20
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Is this the family in 1871 RG 10/4956/137/21
Living at Raisin Side
Margaret Ward Widow 66
Joseph Ward Widow 39
John Ward unmarried 56 (mistranscribed should be 36)
George Ward grandson 1 (maybe wrong age as well)
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It must have been a long walk from George's birth place, Craghead, to Lanchester for the baptism. I hope the family got a ride on a cart. Raisin Side (or variants) is at the back of St. Thomas Collierley, (Harelaw) looking westwards.
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It must have been a long walk from George's birth place, Craghead, to Lanchester for the baptism. I hope the family got a ride on a cart. Raisin Side (or variants) is at the back of St. Thomas Collierley, (Harelaw) looking westwards.
Haha ;D. It just shows how good it is to have local knowledge
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It must have been a long walk from George's birth place, Craghead, to Lanchester for the baptism. I hope the family got a ride on a cart. Raisin Side (or variants) is at the back of St. Thomas Collierley, (Harelaw) looking westwards.
I often wonder about that in large rural parishes. Looking at that page in the baptism register the entries seem to be out of sequence, date wise. I looked forward and back and it seemed to happen a fair bit.
I wonder if there was an outlying chapelry where the children were baptised and the entry added into the register when the curate got back to the main parish - or sent a list every now and then. Maybe, even if there wasn't a chapelry, a curate could have been sent out now and then to visit smaller communities and make sure, as far as he could, that as many children as possible were baptised?
(NB this theory isn't based on any knowledge, I am just kind of wondering out loud)
Boo