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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: Elstead1861 on Thursday 03 October 13 19:24 BST (UK)

Title: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Elstead1861 on Thursday 03 October 13 19:24 BST (UK)
I found the following three baptisms in the register of Stepney St Dunston & All Saints:
John Mead baptised 10 Mar 1833 - parents John (grocer) & Mary Mead
George Mead baptised 27 Oct 1834 - parents John (cheesemonger) & Mary Gardner Mead
Mary Mead baptised 23 May 1837 - parents John (cheesemonger) & Mary Gardner Mead

This would sit nicely with the following entry in the 1951 census [Class: HO107; Piece: 1553; Folio: 73; Page: 17]
Artichoke Row, Mile End Road, Mile End Old Town
John Mead...54...Higheaster, Essex (poulterer)
Mary Mead...50...Barking, Essex
John Mead...18...Mile End, Middlesex
George Mead...16...Mile End, Middlesex
Mary Ann Mead...13...Mile End, Middlesex

John, Mary and John were at the same address in 1841 (although George 6 and Mary Ann 3 are not, for some reason). Also there are George Mead 20 and Sarah Mead 15.

I wonder if someone could kindly let me know the marriage details of John & Mary Mead please? And also if they had any more children?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Elstead1861 on Thursday 03 October 13 19:35 BST (UK)
PS Mary Gardner Mead died Q4 1876 Epping. She is in the 1871 census living with son George & family in Buckhurst Hill.
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Annette7 on Thursday 03 October 13 19:41 BST (UK)
This looks like the marriage:

John Mead, bachelor, and Mary Gardner Burley (altho' transcribed as Barley), spinster, married 5/1/1832 Stepney St. Dunstan and All Saints.

Annette
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: MargP on Thursday 03 October 13 19:47 BST (UK)
Hi

This looks like the marriage it may be John's second marriage ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2CM-WYM
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Elstead1861 on Thursday 03 October 13 19:52 BST (UK)
This looks like the marriage:

John Mead, bachelor, and Mary Gardner Burley (altho' transcribed as Barley), spinster, married 5/1/1832 Stepney St. Dunstan and All Saints.

Annette

Thanks Annette. Perfect!

Hi

This looks like the marriage it may be John's second marriage ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2CM-WYM

Thanks Marg. I guess that George Mead 20 and Sarah Mead 15 in the 1841 census may be children from John Mead's first marriage.
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: MargP on Thursday 03 October 13 20:21 BST (UK)
According to the marriage he was a Bachelor, may be they are niece and nephew ??

There is an the 1841 census for a Thomas and Mary Mead as head

Has there is no relationship given, I wonder if these 2 could be them, there are other children with Thomas and Mary, but a couple of them seem to be the same age as George and Mary

 George Mead b 1835 Essex together with a Mary Mead b 1837 Essex

Margp

Edit  details of the 1841 census living in High Easter

William Mead  1791
Mary Mead t 1801
Joseph Mead  1828
Charles Mead t 1830 ,
James Mead  1833,
Ellen Mead  1835 ,
GEORGE MEAD  1835
MARY MEAD  1837
Isaac Mead  1837
Henry Mead  1841

Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Elstead1861 on Thursday 03 October 13 22:11 BST (UK)
According to the marriage he was a Bachelor, may be they are niece and nephew ??

That's quite possible. John Mead was born in High Easter. Perhaps George (20 y.o  in the 1841 census) was his nephew and Sarah was his niece.

There is a messageboard reference to George Mead baptised in High Easter on 9 Sep 1821. No information on the parents though, nor whether he had a younger sister called Sarah.
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Scrabble on Friday 04 October 13 07:49 BST (UK)
According to the register George Mead baptized in High Easter on 9 Sep 1821 was the son of William & Mary Mead of High Easter. William was a Gardener.
Scrabble
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Scrabble on Friday 04 October 13 07:57 BST (UK)
Sarah Mead baptized 14 May 1826 at High Easter, dau of Wm & Mary Mead of High Easter, Wm was a Gardener
Scrabble
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Elstead1861 on Friday 04 October 13 09:51 BST (UK)

Edit  details of the 1841 census living in High Easter

William Mead  1791
Mary Mead t 1801
Joseph Mead  1828
Charles Mead t 1830 ,
James Mead  1833,
Ellen Mead  1835 ,
GEORGE MEAD  1835
MARY MEAD  1837
Isaac Mead  1837
Henry Mead  1841

Thanks, Marg. That could be the family of William & Mary Mead that Scrabble refers to.

Maybe William (1791 High Easter) and Mile End John (1797 High Easter) were relatives (brothers?). In 1841, William looked after John's George & Mary at High Easter. In return, John accommodated George (1821) & Sarah (1826) at Mile End.

Edit: Found William Mead, 1789, High Easter (son of Thomas Mead and Elizabeth Chandler). No baptism details found for a John Mead, High Easter, c 1797.
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: MargP on Friday 04 October 13 09:59 BST (UK)

Edit  details of the 1841 census living in High Easter

William Mead  1791
Mary Mead t 1801
Joseph Mead  1828
Charles Mead t 1830 ,
James Mead  1833,
Ellen Mead  1835 ,
GEORGE MEAD  1835
MARY MEAD  1837
Isaac Mead  1837
Henry Mead  1841

Thanks, Marg. That could be the family of William & Mary Mead that Scrabble refers to.

Maybe William (1791 High Easter) and Mile End John (1797 High Easter) were relatives (brothers?). In 1841, William looked after John's George & Mary at High Easter. In return, John accommodated George (1821) & Sarah (1826) at Mile End.
It looks very promising, and William was a Gardener on the 1841 census
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Elstead1861 on Friday 04 October 13 10:08 BST (UK)
According to the register George Mead baptized in High Easter on 9 Sep 1821 was the son of William & Mary Mead of High Easter. William was a Gardener.
Scrabble
Sarah Mead baptized 14 May 1826 at High Easter, dau of Wm & Mary Mead of High Easter, Wm was a Gardener
Scrabble

Thank you, Scrabble. They look like the elder children of William and Mary in MargP's post.

Please may I ask if you have any marriage details for William Mead & Mary Sawen at High Easter abt 1820?
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Pauline Parmenter on Friday 11 October 13 17:52 BST (UK)
The Mead family from High Easter are probably the William Mead = Mary Sawen there son Charles 1830  born High Easter went to Mile End , the Gardiner in the Mary is probably to show it is the Thomas Mead = Mary Gardiner line married by license 1729 in Harlow Essex. This is my tree I was born in High Easter and was a Mead,it is near Gt Dunmow in Essex. I can help if your search is Meads of High Easter, Others have the family back to Bristol came to Essex around 1500.By others I mean Genes re-united members, I  hope this helps.
Kind regards Pauline
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: Pauline Parmenter on Friday 11 October 13 18:24 BST (UK)
Hi yes that William 1791 was a gardener job I mean at the vicarage in High Easter parents Thomas 30,Sept 1770 bapt= Elizabeth Chandler 15,June 1786 1, Thomas 10,Oct 1786, 2, Isaac 14, April 1788buried 1st June1797.Number 3,William 14,Jan 1790buried 7, Sept 1864 74yrs,= Mary Sawen 10,11,1820 glove making family my gt gt uncle married an Agnes Sawen mother Emma .I George 9,9,1821,2Susan 20,4,1823.3William 20,2,1825,4,Sarah 24th Feb 1826 = Jonathan Brewster 25th DEC 1846 ,5, jOSEPH 11.5, 1828 = Ann ? child Ethel Ann 11,10,1853. Charles 12,9,1830, that was 6,no ,7James 23,10,1832,Ellen and George1835 NO 8 , 9, Isaac Mary and Israel 24th March 1837 10, WILLIAM AND Henry 9,4,1841, Louisa Alice 2, 11,1845.
Thomas 1770 parents Edward = Elizabeth Sorrell 3,1,1769 license at High Easter Edwards parents Thomas= Mary Gardiner =1729 that Thomas bapt ised 1706 parents John= Benedicta White.
I KNOW Charles WENT TO Mile End as A Mr John Lambe descends from that Charles.
Hope you can understand this Ive been doing the Meads over 25yrs among other names linked somehow .
Bye for now Pauline
Title: Re: Who are John & Mary Mead (High Easter ---> Mile End)?
Post by: MargP on Friday 11 October 13 19:00 BST (UK)
Wow Pauline that's brilliant Elstead will be pleased

Margp