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Title: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: jkennerdale on Sunday 29 September 13 12:58 BST (UK)
Could someone tell me please, where would I find the registration of death of a british subject died/buried at sea, apparently on the Queen Mary 1956, name Freeman, male in 60's? I have tried searching Ancestry, Findmy past etc etc, but not sure if this person would be classed as overseas or whether the death would be registered in England.

Many thanks

Judith
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: t mo on Sunday 29 September 13 13:47 BST (UK)
hi Judith
the death should be in consular deaths with the death being recorded with the nearest consulate when it docked with such a big ship I would have thought they would have taken the body to be buried in the country where it docked first .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 September 13 14:23 BST (UK)
Which way was the ship travelling,into or out of the UK?  And where to/from?

What is this chap's first name?

They often write the info about a death or birth on board ship in the back page of the passenger list.

Carol
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: jkennerdale on Sunday 29 September 13 14:46 BST (UK)
thank you very much for your help. I understand the burial was at sea en route from Southampton to New York. The first name is believed to be Wilfred, though I'm not sure this is correct, and William may be more likely.

regards
Judith
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 September 13 15:03 BST (UK)
There is a Will Freeman 1/1/1897 and a Fanchien (the NY inwards list has her as Farchion) Freeman b 27/8/97 travelling from Ston to NY on the Queen Mary on 16th August 1956.He is a lawyer and gives his last address as C/O Grosvenor House Hotel Park Lane London.

They are both USA citizens from Illinois.

Probably not your chap then?
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: jkennerdale on Sunday 29 September 13 15:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Carol, but sadly not. Mine was definitely English and lived in Woolwich area of London, he was on his way to see his sister who lived in the US. I'm researching on behalf of a cousin and have a feeling the info must be incorrect, as he doesn't appear anywhere!
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 September 13 15:13 BST (UK)
We need to confirm him on board the Queen Mary first before we can go looking for a his death.
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 29 September 13 17:09 BST (UK)
Do you have his last known home address so we can see when he fell off the electoral registers?

Do you have his sisters' name so we can get a grip on his age by looking for her in the records?
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: jkennerdale on Sunday 29 September 13 18:04 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for helping! I have emailed my cousin in Au for more information so will message again when I have his reply.

Greatly appreciated
Judith
Title: Re: Death at sea, Queen Mary 1950's
Post by: t mo on Sunday 29 September 13 22:01 BST (UK)
have found 3 William freemans with wives and families going to usa 2 in 1955 and 1 in 1959 all aboard the queen Elizabeth can,t see any for q mary in the time period , can you give us his wifes name and any children that may have gone with them also a more accurate year of birth for William .
also checked at sea deaths and no definite,s  show up
regards
trevor