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Title: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Juelzee on Friday 27 September 13 19:28 BST (UK)
Hi all, Can anyone please help me locate a James Bishop Wagstaff born 1869 Madeley Staffordshire.   I have him on the 81 cen with his mother and then he disappears.  Ancestry have a James B listed as a passenger to USA but as I do not have membership so cannot check it out.
I also have another James Bishop born 1862 and this is the one that turns up on the census returns.   Any help with this would be great.

Julie
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Erato on Friday 27 September 13 19:54 BST (UK)
What port did he enter?  If it was New York, you can search for him at Castle Garden [up to 1891] or Ellis Island [after 1891].  The Ellis Island site has digitized images of the passenger lists.  There are no images at the Castle Garden site but, once you have found the ship and arrival date, you can look up the image at FamilySearch.

http://www.castlegarden.org/
http://www.ellisisland.org/
https://familysearch.org/

If it was some other port [Philadelphia, Boston, New Orleans, etc.], you can look for him at FamilySearch which has some passenger lists for some east and west coast ports.
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Juelzee on Friday 27 September 13 20:41 BST (UK)
Thank you for the pointers. I am clutching at straws here and do not know what port to be searching.
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Erato on Friday 27 September 13 21:01 BST (UK)
Have you found him on any US census?
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Juelzee on Friday 27 September 13 21:12 BST (UK)
so far the nearest I have found is a James B living in tennesse but he states  born Tennessee
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 27 September 13 23:49 BST (UK)
Could this be the same chap?

With both ladies being called Elizabeth it's not going to be that easy to work out who married whom  ::)

Marriages Mar 1895   

Broad    Elizabeth Annie        Stone    6b   47    
Davies    Elizabeth         Stone    6b   47    
Wagstaff    James Bishop         Stone    6b   47    
Wood    Arthur         Stone    6b   47    
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 27 September 13 23:53 BST (UK)
OOps in 1891 there's a Jas Wagstaff age 22  born in Stafford in 1869 in Strangeways Prison.

 RG12/3266 Folio 67 Page 16
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 27 September 13 23:59 BST (UK)
The one that went to the US in 1947 (and at other times) was born in 1912.
He died there too!
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Juelzee on Saturday 28 September 13 23:01 BST (UK)
Hi Carol,
 Well it looks as if the traveller to the USA is not my man. Do you know if he was born Madeley Staffs as I have a James  born 1913?   The 62 James B married Elizabeth Broad  and I have always wondered if the prisoner is the 69 James B.  Unfortunatly there are a lot of James and I am slowly placing them all. If the prisoner is my missing man, where did he go after this?
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Richard Carroll on Sunday 29 September 13 13:45 BST (UK)
I searched the LDS site and found several James B. , but none in your age group in the USA.
Your James B. shows born 03 June 1869 in Medeley, Eng., father James Wagstaff, mother Mary, and Christening date as 07 Nov. 1869.
Title: Re: usa passsenger lists
Post by: Juelzee on Sunday 29 September 13 21:58 BST (UK)
Hi Richard,

Thank you for your input.  James Bishop Wagstaff is a traditional name in the family.  The first time it appears is 1839. As it is not a very common name I hoped it would help solve the mystery of the families origin Its the parents of this one, (1839) a William and Frances(Hudson )Wagstaff that has me stumped. I have been trying to solve it for over 7 years.

Julie