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Title: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: Trix on Wednesday 25 September 13 07:32 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have found some on-line Children Wards of State (Victoria) old sequence digitalized documents that can be downloaded on line. My problem is that I can't seem to find a application to view them. The application suggested by PROV is win/veo - which seems to be Windows only & I use a Mac.
Is there anyone out there who has worked out how to do this on a Mac (I run the current OS10.8)?
Or is there a very kind Windows person out there who could open the three documents for me?
All help welcome,
Regards
Trix
Western Australia
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: cando on Wednesday 25 September 13 07:42 BST (UK)
Would you like to give me the names and the link you are searching.

Found online....

All of the Ward Registers were 'imaged' during the 1990s.

Microfiche copies of the Ward Registers dated from 1864-1897 are available to the public and can be consulted at the State Library of Victoria, and at the Public Record Office Victoria, Victorian Archives Centre. These include information about 'neglected' children admitted up to 23 April 1895 and convicted children admitted up to 1897. There is also an index to the Ward Registers, covering 'neglected' children admitted up to 1894 and convicted children admitted up to 1897.

From 1898, the Registers had an internal index at the beginning of each volume.
Paper, copies are on microfiche

Access
Records more than 99 years old are open to the public at Public Record Office Victoria. For access to other records, contact Family Information Networks and Discovery, within the Department of Human Services.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: cando on Wednesday 25 September 13 07:47 BST (UK)
OK found the link
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0w9h/

I can proceed to the names so if you would like to post the names and years so I open the correct 'Book', I have a search for you. I have no problem downloading the pages in jpg format.

Cheers  :)
Cando
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: Trix on Wednesday 25 September 13 08:16 BST (UK)
Dear Cando,
I have sent you a person message with all the details - let me know if I need to re-send or clarify.

Thank you so much for the kind help,
Cheers
Bron (Trix)
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: cando on Wednesday 25 September 13 09:28 BST (UK)
Bron all downloaded and ready to send.  Please pm your email address.

Cando
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: lynfour on Friday 27 September 13 04:32 BST (UK)
Hi Cando,

I seem to be having a similar problem to Bron!  I have found two children in book 1, & can download as a PDF, but they are very hard to read & I would like to download as a jpeg so that I can try & make the text darker!  I can't work out how to change the download to jpeg?
The two boys I found are Charles Tootell b1862 & Stephen b1857.  There are four other children Sarah b1855, Hannah b1859, Eliza b 1861 & James b1864.
I think their mother Ann remarried James? FINCH.
Their father Jacob TOOTELL seems to have deserted them & I haven't been able to find a death anywhere for him.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you.
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: Trix on Friday 27 September 13 05:53 BST (UK)
Dear lynfour,
After Condo's very kind help (Thanks again!!), I have managed to get the Mac to open the files. I have so far converted your Charles Tootell file to jpeg & will work though the others. It is a bit fiddly & I have no idea how to do it on a regular Windows computer.
Could your PM (private message) me with your email so I can send Charles' file (which is incredibly faint!) in its jpeg & then can send the others you would like.
I'll also see if I can enhance Charles recors at all for you at my end,
Cheers
Trix
aka Bron
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: sparrett on Friday 27 September 13 07:05 BST (UK)
As an aside and for your interest Lyn

 Marriage

TOOTELL Ann (born Shropshire)
FINCH James Joseph
Year 1871
Reg  4696

Sue
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: lynfour on Friday 27 September 13 07:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Sue!

Any information greatfully received  :)

Bron has managed to download the entries for me.  Very faint copies, so I will try to enhance them.
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: cando on Friday 27 September 13 07:34 BST (UK)
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There are four other children Sarah b1855,

If this is your Sarah, then this seems to indicate he returned to England or perhaps he was from Nottinghamshire.  I can't see a death in the UK.

The Argus  26 May 1904
Marriages
SMITH—TOOTELL.—On the 14th May, 1879, at St.Mary's R. C. Presbytery, by the Rev. Father England,  William Henry Smith, native of Gotland, Sweden, youngest son of Charles Smith, to Sarah Ann, native of White Hills, Bendigo, eldest daughter of Jacob Tootell, of Nottinghamshire, England.

Cando

Edit  Sarah's birth was registered Sandhurst in 1855 with father Jacob and mother Ann BISHOP.
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: cando on Friday 27 September 13 07:54 BST (UK)
lynfour you MAY gain further information from Ann's 2nd marriage certificate.  It was the usual procedure to note the date the party was 'widowed' along with number of issue living and deceased, but then I doubt the minister bothered to check the accuracy of the details.

Cando
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: lynfour on Friday 27 September 13 07:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Cando,

Jacob TOOTELL was born in Nottinghamshire & came out with his brother John 1849.

Jacob was charged with deserting his wife & children & just seems to have disappeared. I have looked at deaths in England as well, but still no luck!

Something will turn up one day :)
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: cando on Friday 27 September 13 08:39 BST (UK)
It is possible that his surname has been mistranscribed and as he deserted his family he may have changed his name.

I gather you don't have Ann's 2nd marriage certificate. 

The writing on the records is certainly difficult to read....I didn't bother with it however have you managed to decipher any of the words?

I found his arrival in SA along with his marriage but that doesn't help find his death.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Victoria Online digital records PROV
Post by: lynfour on Saturday 28 September 13 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have managed to decipher some of the details on the entries.

Parents deserted, warrants issued, does this mean both parents??  Mother remarried to James FINCH, a labourer. They reside at Mt Macedon.

Sarah TOOTELL,Licensed out to a Mrs Rose DeLacey, husband a coachbuilder,  March 1869.
Hannah & Stephen TOOTELL, discharged to their stepfather, 19th July 1870.
Eliza TOOTELL, died of consumption, 26th Oct 1865.
Charles TOOTELL, almost impossible to read !, but think it says he died.
No mention of James TOOTELL.
They are also listed under FINCH, the stepfathers name.

Is it possible to find out which institution they were in?

Lynne