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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: Milliepede on Tuesday 17 September 13 11:38 BST (UK)
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Just wondering why someone would emigrate in that period. My chap was a boilermaker when he left England in 1890.
Interestingly he was down as single but had actually married less than a week before. I wonder if the marriage was brought forward before he left.
Wife was left behind until after 1891 census (have never found her passage to S Africa or her death there but they had two sons so clearly she was present for that!)
Anyway what I was musing on was his occupation. Was this a valued trade at the time and what would he have boilered - ships? Would he have ensured he had work before emigrating, would he have seen an advert for able bodied boilers somewhere?
Looks like it was planned not just a whim.
Any thoughts much appreciated :)
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Gold was discovered on the Witwatersrand in 1886 leading to a gold rush attracting fortune seekers from all over the world. Perhaps he was one of those who came out here seeking his fortune!
I know that they use boiler makers in the mines now, but am not sure about in 1890.
If you give his name as well as that of his wife maybe there are some records here.
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There was I thinking he was a sensible chap and had his employment planned out! Whatever it was he seems to have kept that occupation as he still had it when he died in 1926.
I have posted about the family before trying to find her passage and death but grateful for anyone willing to have a look.
He was called Mark Hinchliffe born England 1866. He sailed from Southampton 24 October 1890.
He married Emma Jane Ellis born England 1872 on 18 October 1890.
She is with her family in England on the 1891 census.
On his death notice wife is down as Emilly Janet and she has pre deceased him.
They had two sons one about 1893 Richard Ellis and one about 1899 Mark Joseph (her father was called Joseph)
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Both sons married in Natal, one in Durban and one in Ladysmith. He is listed as single on the Eggsa site...http://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/searchArrivals.pl.
MarkJ died in 1958 buried Stellawood aged 60 Richard died 1960 aged 67
Ruth
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Hi Ruth thanks for that. The death for Mark J is another piece of new information :)
Wonderful that link also gives the date Emma sailed to join her husband.
What does "class granted 3" and "class used 3" mean?
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She is listed as J hincuffe on the passenger list. I have no idea what class 3 !
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Oh gosh J hincuffe no wonder I never found that before!
I wonder if the class was the mode of travel but if it was something you had to be granted don't know. Classification of good manners perhaps ;)
I am encouraged more and more bits of info are coming to light :)
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Oh gosh J hincuffe no wonder I never found that before!
I wonder if the class was the mode of travel but if it was something you had to be granted don't know. Classification of good manners perhaps ;)
I am encouraged more and more bits of info are coming to light :)
Hopefully this helps:
Ships often had three classes of passenger accommodation - First, Second and Third Class - of descending quality. Passengers had access to different dining facilities, and cheaper tickets may mean no access a swimming pool, when there was one. Emigrants were sometimes given accommodation below Third Class quality, called steerage, and some emigrant ships were designed for carrying large numbers of poor people as cheaply as possible. Later developments saw these class choices lessen, with Cabin Class a better-sounding alternative for those emigrants who couldn`t afford First Class.
I would think that you would be granted class 3 once you had actually paid!
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Thanks for that :)
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Hi Milliepede
I don't think sense always comes into the question of emigration. My paternal great-grandfather, a 20-year-old insurance clerk back in the UK, up and sailed to Durban in late 1902, giving his occupation as carpenter! We have absolutely no idea why he left England in the first place or what prompted him to say he was a carpenter. All I can think is that he had itchy feet...
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Hello Millipede,
I found 'Class Granted' stamped on the Passenger List of a relative emigrating to Australia in the early 1900s. I think it might be something to do with Assisted Passage Schemes. Australia, New Zealand, Canada & South Africa all had Assisted Passage Schemes to encourage people to emigrate.
Like railway travel, ship passengers travelled either 1st, 2nd or 3rd Class. In the 1800s, poor immigrants would travel steerage, which was like a dormitory with bunks down the sides. No privacy and certainly not invited to dine with the Captain!
Regards, Dod.