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Title: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Tuesday 10 September 13 08:19 BST (UK)
Seeking the Marriage of John Madden and Hannah Reynolds in Hinton N.S.W. 1883.
Cannot find them in births, deaths and marriages for N.S.W.   Both John and Hannah were from Ireland.
They had a son Basil Trevor Madden in 1885.
Thank you....
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 10 September 13 08:31 BST (UK)
Also several other children born before Basil...

Possibly this marriage:

MADDEN John m. HOPKINS Hannah 1858 MAITLAND #2137

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Tuesday 10 September 13 08:38 BST (UK)
Thank you,  John Madden and Hannah Hopkins are my ancestors.  But John Madden and Hannah Reynolds didnt marry until 1883 some 25 years later.  I can only find one son Basil Trevor Madden born to them.
Thank you for your assistance.
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 10 September 13 08:45 BST (UK)
Thank you,  John Madden and Hannah Hopkins are my ancestors.  But John Madden and Hannah Reynolds didnt marry until 1883 some 25 years later.  I can only find one son Basil Trevor Madden born to them. Thank you for your assistance.

Do you have Basil's BC?

Was he a grandson to John & Hannah m. 1858?
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 10 September 13 09:05 BST (UK)
His funeral notice names a brother & sister:

SMH - Wednesday 21 April 1943
MADDEN.—The Relatives and Friends of Mr. John Madden, Mr. and Mrs. Barkel, Mr. and Mrs. Reginald Madden are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of his dear Son and their dear Brother, Basil Trevor Madden. For details see family notice. Labor Motor Funerals Limited. 

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17845322

There are other notices on the page also.
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 10 September 13 09:57 BST (UK)
Seeking the Marriage of John Madden and Hannah Reynolds in Hinton N.S.W. 1883.
Cannot find them in births, deaths and marriages for N.S.W.   Both John and Hannah were from Ireland.
They had a son Basil Trevor Madden in 1885.
Thank you....

Were your couple married before they arrived? What is the basis of your statement about the year and place of the marriage?
 
MADDEN   John Aged 26 Per   Cambodia Yr  1884 to Sydney and wife   Reels 2142, 2495

MADDEN   Hannah Aged 23 Per Cambodia Yr  1884 to Sydney and husband (as above)

Sue
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: muss on Tuesday 10 September 13 09:58 BST (UK)
Hi

This tree
http://our-family-tree.com.au/our/individual.php?pid=I263&ged=Our%20Family%20Tree

Muss
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:09 BST (UK)
Births in SA:

MADDEN John b. 01/09/1897 - d. 29/09/1898 #255/71
Father: John MADDEN
Mother: Hannah REYNOLDS
Birth Place: Unley; District Code: Ade; Book: 609; Page: 95

MADDEN Reginald b. 04/09/1899
Father: John MADDEN
Mother: Hannah REYNOLDS
Birth Place: Unley; District Code: Ade; Book: 646; Page: 362
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:13 BST (UK)
Mother Sarah's funeral notices in 1924 mention children Mr and Mrs Reginald Madden, Mr and Mrs Basil Madden , Miss Violet Madden and Mr and Mrs H Barkell
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16202164

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: Essie on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:15 BST (UK)
IN MEMORIUM  notice
Monday 9 December 1929

MADDEN.-In loving memory of our dear wife and mother, Hannah Madden, who died December 8, 1924. Inserted by her loving husband, John, and children, Basil, Violet, Lily, and Reginald.


Essie
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:21 BST (UK)
Violet Atterton's death in 1941 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17733697
ATTERTON.—March 5, 1941, at St. George District Hospital, Violet Atterton, beloved mother of 
Walter, loved daughter of John Madden and the late Hannah Madden, fond sister of Basil, Lily
(Mrs. H. Barkel), and Reginald, and grandmother  of J, G, and B, aged 50 years. Pri-   
vately interred 6th March, Randwick General Cemetery.
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: Essie on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:26 BST (UK)
Two births in VIC

Violet MADDEN Birth 1891 FITZROY SOUTH
Parents Jno & Hanna REYNOLDS
Reg. #12386

Lily MADDEN Birth 1893 FITZROY
Parents John & Hannah REYNOLDS
Reg.  #31498

Essie
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:29 BST (UK)
The family moved around a lot  :)

Births in VIC:

MADDEN Lily b. 1893 FITZROY #31498
Father: John
Mother: Hannah REYNOLDS

MADDEN Violet b. 1891 FITZROY SOUTH #12386
Father: Jno
Mother: Hannah REYNOLDS
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 10 September 13 10:37 BST (UK)
Death in VIC:

MADDEN Jno Francis 23mths d. 1889 EAST MELBOURNE #13069
Father: Jno
Mother: Hannah REYNOLDS
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 10 September 13 12:00 BST (UK)
S S Cambodia 4th Apr 1884:  Mr John (26) MADDEN and Mrs Hannah (23) MADDEN http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4809/S%20S%20Cambodia_4%20Apr%201884/4_480900074.jpg&No=12
Probates:
Basil Trevor Madden - Date of Death 19/04/1943
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\565226
Reginald Madden - Date of Death 01/09/1962
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\1049841

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 10 September 13 12:30 BST (UK)
Death John MADDEN
MADDEN, John. – January 21, 1949 (suddenly), at his residence, St Mary’s Street, Camperdown, relict of Hannah Madden and dear father of Bazil (deceased), Violet (deceased), Lily (Mrs H. Barkel) and Reginald, in his 95th year. R.I.P. Privately interred at Randwick Cemetery on Monday the 24th instant. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18092952?

NSW BDM: 687/1949 John MADDEN; Father-Patrick; Mother-Sarah; Newtown 

cheers :)
cupofliife
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 10 September 13 13:41 BST (UK)
SMH 3 Sep 1962
MADDEN Reginald, September 1 1962, at his residence 3 St Mary Street Camperdown dearly loved husband of Doris Madden, loved father of R, B and S fond father-in-law of L, B and W and dear grandfather of the children aged 83(?) years At rest

Will pm the names

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 10 September 13 13:42 BST (UK)
Divorce Index: 1917 Violet ATTERTON and Walter ATTERTON; Divorce No: 0546
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchhits.aspx?table=Divorce%20Index&ID=16&query=Violet%20Atterton&frm=0

SMH 14Oct1955pg32
BARKEL, Lily - October 13, 1955, at hospital, of 181 Chuter Avenue, Sans Souci, dearly loved wife of Harold Wyndham Barkel, aged 62 years. At rest.
SMH 17Oct1955pg22: BARKEL – The Relatives and Friends of Mr Harold Wyndham Barkel are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of his dearly beloved Wife, LILY BARKEL; to leave St Andrews Church, Rocky Point Road, Sans Souci, This Afternoon, after service commencing at 1 o’clock, for the Crematorium Woronora.

SMH 13Sep1958pg64
BARKL (Barkel), Harold Wyndham, (Bubs). – September 12, 1958 (suddenly), at his residence 181 Chuter Avenue, Sans Souci, dearly loved husband of the late Lily Barkl, dear brother of Charles (deceased), Florence (Mrs. W. Reader), Arthur (deceased), Oliver (deceased), August (deceased) and Dorothy (Mrs L. White). Aged 68 years
SMH 13Sep1958pg64
BARKL – The Relatives and Friends of the late HAROLD WYNDHAM (BUBS) BARKL (BARKEL) of 181 Chuter Avenue, Sans Souci, are invited to attend his Funeral which will leave our Private Chapel, Seven Ways, Rockdale, on Monday Morning Next, after service commencing at 9 0’clock, for the Crematorium, Woronora.

Woronora Cemetery: http://www.woronoracemetery.org.au/finding-loved-ones
Lily BARKL; Date of death 13/10/1955; Ashes - AA - ROSE GARDEN 30 - 0274
Harold Windham BARKL; Date of death 12/09/1958; Ashes - AA - ROSE GARDEN 30 - 0276

NSW BDM:
30398/1955 Lily BARKL; Father- John; Mother-Hannah; Rockdale
21262/1958 Harold Wyndham BARKL; Father-John; Mother Kate Florence; Rockdale

Probates:
Lily Barkl - Date of Death 13/10/1955 http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\941831
Harold Wyndham Barkl - Date of Death 12/09/1958
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\984668

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Tuesday 10 September 13 22:06 BST (UK)
What a fantastic response I thank you one and all.
I had Basil Trevor Madden attached to John Madden and Hannah Hopkins but recently decided to research him in more detail.  On purchasing his Birth Certificate and Marriage Certificate found his mother to be Hannah Reynolds.  I looked into him being a grandson, but their only son John Edward Madden had married Selena Stevens.   The fact that Basil was born in Hinton/Morpeth N.S.W. made me think he was related to my Madden Family,  as after they arrived from Ireland sponsored by a cousin Benjamin Long, they all lived in the Hinton/Morpeth area.  I will research further along this line.  I feel that there must be a family connection between John Madden 1. and John Madden 2...
Their marriage in Ireland explains why I couldnt find them in the B,D,M in N.S.W. Thank You Sparrett.
For Muss:  the Madden tree you sent me has Basil marrying Nellie Reddan from Emmaville NSW.
On his Marriage Certificate it lists her parents as William Reddan and Margaret Burke and states that Nellie AKA Ellen May Reddan was born in Bathurst approx. 1887.  Her Death Certificate has her named as Ellen May Madden died Paddington N.S.W 1973.  William Reddan died in Bathurst in 1891.
cupoflife:  Thank you for John Madden's Death Notice which names his Parents as Patrick and mother Sarah.  I will look into the Irish ancestors today.

Thank you everyone again.    :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Thursday 12 September 13 06:43 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find John's parents Patrick and Jane Madden to see if they also came to N.S.W.
and what their relationship is to John and Hannah Madden who lived in Hinton/Morpeth N.S.W.

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Thursday 12 September 13 06:44 BST (UK)
Sorry wrong mother's name Sarah not Jane....
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Sunday 10 November 13 02:39 GMT (UK)
Still searching for the Marriage of Hannah Reynolds and John Madden 1883 in Ireland.
Hannah  was born 1861 in Donegal and John born 1858 in County Clare, Galway.

Thank you
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 10 November 13 02:53 GMT (UK)
Still searching for the Marriage of Hannah Reynolds and John Madden 1883 in Ireland.
Hannah  was born 1861 in Donegal and John born 1858 in County Clare, Galway. Thank you

You can request help on the Irish boards:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=50.0

You can also try the following:

Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1584964
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Sunday 10 November 13 06:54 GMT (UK)
Sorry Merlin I don't understand your reply.  Please advise.

Thank you
Title: Re: JOHN MADDEN
Post by: gumball on Sunday 10 November 13 20:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks Merlin - the whole reply didn't show up on my first try.
Thank you.