RootsChat.Com
General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: gingerbit on Monday 09 September 13 12:27 BST (UK)
-
From the depths of my family history boxes, I have come across this "Roll of Honour" for the Cameronians. It contains over 7,000 names with Regimental numbers and Battalions. I am happy to look up any names for anyone.
Gingerbit
-
Don't know why this was not included.
-
Do you mean the original document? If yes, I imagine the Cameronian museum in Hamilton would love to have same.
http://www.cameronians.org/museum/
-
Hi Scotmum
Yes, this is the original book (187 pages) sent to the next of kin of all the men who died while serving in the Cameronians during the 1st. world war. The cover as you can see is slightly worn but the pages inside are all in great condition.
-
What a fantastic resource to have, then, and how thoughtful of the Cameronians to do such a thing at the time.
-
Does it give any information beyond name, rank and number?
If so I'd be interested in the entries for:
Lt T E D Dunn
Capt A C Gathorne-Hardy
Pte W Newman
-
Name Rank Reg. No. Battalion Place & date Native Town
of death
T.E.D.Dunn Lieutenant ....... 2nd. France 22.12.14 Rowds
A.C.Gathorne-Hardy T./Captain ....... 9th France 29.5.15 London
W. Newman Private 8330 1st France 2.11.14 ........
This is what I have and hope it is of use.
-
Do it have anyone with the surname MAYO?
-
Thanks - every little bit helps.
-
If it is not too much trouble can you see what your book says about the following please.
Alexander Forrester, Private, 27444 1st Bn
Oliver Frederick Johnston, Private, 32996, 10th Bn
William King, Private 36718, 5th Bn
Robert Ward Murray, Private, 39097, 2nd Bn
William Pryde, Sergeant, 7592, 1st Bn
Robert Ritchie, MM, Lance Corporal, 202347, 5/6th Bn
Hugh Wright Roy, Private 40916, 9th Bn
John Semple, Private 28712, 10th Bn
J Wylie, Private A/7692, 2nd Bn
They are on our local Memorial and It would be useful to see if there is any further info on them.
With many thanks,
Buzancy18
-
Hello Sancti
There is one entry for P.Mayo Rank C.S.M, Reg. No. 8347, 2nd. Battalion, d. 29.10.16 France, no entry for native town.
-
A. Forrester (in book as Forrest) Private 27444 1st. Bat. d.11.6.18 France, no home town given.
O.F.Johnston Private 32996 10th. Bat. d.23.7.18 France, home town Edinburgh
Wm King Private 36718 5th. Bat. d. 8.3.18 Gt. Britain, home town
Juniper Green
Rbt. Murray Private 39097 2nd. Bat d.6.8.18 France, home town Balerno
Wm. Pryde Sergeant 7592 1st. Bat. d.22.10.14 France, home town Currie
Rbt. Ritchie M.M. L/Corporal 202347 5th/6th Bat. 22.6.17 France, home town
Wolston
H. Roy Private 40916 9th. Bat. d. 2.5.17 France, home town Alva
J.Semple Private 28712 10th. Bat. d. 28.3.18 France, no home town given
J. Wylie (in book as Wyllie) Private A/7692 2nd. Bat. d. 11.2.16 France, no home town given
Tomorrow, I will copy the preface from the book onto this thread. It is very moving.
-
Thanks so much for this information.
It may be helpful.
Buzancy18
-
A. Forrester (in book as Forrest) Private 27444 1st. Bat. d.11.6.18 France, no home town given.
O.F.Johnston Private 32996 10th. Bat. d.23.7.18 France, home town Edinburgh
Wm King Private 36718 5th. Bat. d. 8.3.18 Gt. Britain, home town
Juniper Green
Rbt. Murray Private 39097 2nd. Bat d.6.8.18 France, home town Balerno
Wm. Pryde Sergeant 7592 1st. Bat. d.22.10.14 France, home town Currie
Rbt. Ritchie M.M. L/Corporal 202347 5th/6th Bat. 22.6.17 France, home town
Wolston
H. Roy Private 40916 9th. Bat. d. 2.5.17 France, home town Alva
J.Semple Private 28712 10th. Bat. d. 28.3.18 France, no home town given
J. Wylie (in book as Wyllie) Private A/7692 2nd. Bat. d. 11.2.16 France, no home town given
Tomorrow, I will copy the preface from the book onto this thread. It is very moving.
Forrester, born Currie, enlisted Glasgow, DOW
Oliver Frederick Johnston, born Glenbrook Balerno, enlisted Edinburgh, kia at Buzancy
William King, born Juniper Green, enlisted Edinburgh, died at home buried Colinton, Edinburgh
Robert Ward Murray, born Edinburgh, residence Balerno, enlisted Glencorse, kia
William Pryde, born Tranent, residence Juniper Green, enlisted Edinburgh, kia
Robert Ritchie, born Liberton Lanarkshire, residence Carnwath, enlisted Edinburgh, kia
Hugh Wright Roy, born Alva Clackmannanshire, residence Juniper Green enlisted Juniper Green, dow
John Semple, several possibilities
James Wylie, born Trim Meath Ireland, enlisted Hamilton, dow
Buzancy18
-
The preface and the Notice from the Cameronians book.
-
Hi Gingerbit
I would appreciate it if you looked up
Edward ( or Edwin ) Hooper, Private 315524 9th Battalion died 25/04/1918
Mike
-
Hi Mike
E Hooper ( no first name ) Private 315524 9th. Battalion d. France 25.4. 18 Native Town Edinburgh.
Not much extra info for you but hope confirmation is of help.
Regards
Gingerbit
-
Hello Gingerbit.
Do you have any information on Private Charles Reed of West Ham please.
Kesannah
-
Sorry Kesannah, There are no entries for a Charles Reed. I have looked at surname variations but can't see anything that would fit. Do you have any other information? Was he definitely in the Cameronians ?
Gingerbit
-
Hello Gingerbit,
Thankyou for looking.
The only information I have is his name Charles Frederick Reed Pte, Cameron Highlanders
No 9117(which I am told is a number missing). This information came from a Birth certificate for his daughter who was born in 1916.
-
Hi there
The Cameron Highlanders and the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) were two different sections. I have had a look at Google and suggest you try there. The website called 'The Queens Own Cameron Highlanders ' may provide some help for you and maybe some of the others.
Regards
Gingerbit
-
Hello Gingerbit,
Thanks for that information. I didn't realise that they were 2 different sections.
I shall have a look at that website and hope that it may produce some information that will help me and others.
Thanks again
Kesannah.
-
From the depths of my family history boxes, I have come across this "Roll of Honour" for the Cameronians. It contains over 7,000 names with Regimental numbers and Battalions. I am happy to look up any names for anyone.
Gingerbit
Hi there
I am on the research tem for the Neilston War Memorial in East Renfrewshire Scotland, We are looking to erect a memorial in our village next year(no civic memorial at all in the village) We are looking for soldiers that lived- worked- where born or enlisted in the Neilston Village. I know its a big ask but could you check to see any entries that are related to Neilston?
Many Thanks Matt
-
Hello Matt
From a very quick glance through part of the book I don't see any Neilston, only Glasgow. Can you give me any names or number or even Battalion. I am going to be away from home for a few days but will have a more thorough search on my return.
Gingerbit
-
Private George Allison 266013 died 1918 Dec 29th was Born Thorterburn Neilston 10th Dec 1889 died in an Accident age 31 Cameronians Scottish Rifles 7th Son of Gorge Allison (Farmer) & Jane Allison nee MS Anderson (Married 1884 mearns Renfrewshre) The roll of Honour Allison George 7th Terr Batt Of the late George Allison of Thorterburn Neilston by his wife Jane Anderson Born Neilston in County Renfrew 10 Dec 1889. Educated Uplawmoor public school Joined the scottish rifles in Sept 1915; Served with the Expeditionary forces in Eygpt also in France since May 1916.Died at Edmonton Military hospital 29the dec 1918 of injuries accidentally recieved while on service.
Remembered with Honour Neilston Cemetery Grave ref D121.
Private Alexander Laird 7094 died 1918 April 12th age 22 Was born Neilston 1896 Resided 39 high street Neilston Enlisted Glasgow Cameronians Scottish Rifles 1st There is An Alex Laird Scottish rifles on the silver badge list badge number 40921 Reg number 7094 discharged 14/1/1916 with wounds worked as a general labourer (Dye works)prior to war… brother of John. Brother James who survived war signed death cert 4th ?? April 1918 of 46 Gryffe Grds Houston : Parents James John William Laird and Agnes Laird. Barrhead news 1918 Death notice Has 12th April at Darnley cottage Hospital death of Alexander Laird Late of Cameronians and formally of Neilston: Note also see report below.1915 April 2nd gives article on false reports of the death of a Neilston soldier Pte Alex Laird 1st camerions native of village reported killed at front this was incorrect as he was in hospital in france with a sprained ankle. Note four Laird brothers in action James Laird 2nd of he A&SH(Wounded in action 21st Oct 1914) ~John Laird Kitchener's Army.......Alex Laird 1st Cameronians~ William Laird Came home from India and proceeded to France with the expeditionary force
Private John Leonard 7508 died 1916 Sept 7thage 34 Was Born 1882 Bonhill Dumbarton Enlisted Neilston worked Neilston FRANCE Loos 34 Cameronians Scottish Rifles 2nd
Barrhead news 1916 has Pte J Leonard Scottish Rifles DOW 17th Sept 1916. Responded to call in 1914: Prior to was he was a farm servant employed at Craig Of Neilston Farm. "Remembered with Honour Bethune Town Cemetery"
Corporal Maurice McMahon 18784 died 1918 Oct 23rd Was Born at Newton Renfrew: Resided Neilston St Thomas`s church Neilston FRANCE Cameronians Scottish Rifles 1st Voters roll 1918 has Maurice McMahon (Soldier)4 Kirktonfield road Neilston"Remembered with Honour Romeries Communal Cemetery Extension Grave ref VIB10. Romeries Communal cemetery Extension France"
Private Thomas Slaven 2583 Died 1915 June 15th age 34 Was Born 1881 Nov 22nd at Buterwell Neilston : Enlisted Hamilton Private Killed In Action 2583 SDGW FRANCE Cameronians Scottish Rifles 6th Census Gives Father William John Slaven (Labourer) Mother Margaret (Nee Miss McKenna married Dec 31st 1879 in Neilston) Fathers mark =x 1918 Voters roll gives a William J and Mrs Catherine Slaven of 1 low broadlie Neilston: 1901 census has Thomas born Neilston annsfield place Blantrye a Coal Miner age 19 Living with Dad William 45- Mother Maggie age 43-William Slaven 19- Elizabeth 18-Charlote 16- Maggie 15-John 12-James 10 Francis 8- Patrick 4.
Private James Smith 14035 died 1915 Sept 25th was Born Paisley enlisted Paisley Private Killed In Action 14035 church list & Neilston Church memorial FRANCE Cameronians Scottish Rifles 10th Voters roll 1918 gives a Andrew Smith (Soldier) at 5 levern banks Also Andrew Smith (Soldier)living at 5 low broadlie Neilston There is a James Smith on the Barrhead cenotaph "Remembered with Honour
Loos Memorial Ref Panel 57 to 59 Loos mem France "
Private Stewart Archibald 46192 died 1918 July 29th age 28 Was Born 1890 Barrhead Worked Neilston at McConnell's dye works Private Killed In Action 46192 church list St Thomas`s church Neilston Cameronians Scottish Rifles 8th Husband of Liz McCluskie of 11 stromylands Barrhead. BHNs 1918 has Archie Stewart 11Stormylands street Barrhead Leaves widow Liz McCluskie and Three children Prior to war was employed by Messer's McConnell's Dye works Neilston: Dr Prides list gives two Archibald Stewarts? Enlisted Stirling on Barrhead memorial Former Lothian's and Borders Horse: Note Voters roll 1918 gives two Archie Stewarts living at 117 high street Neilston "Remembered with Honour Soissons Memorial Ref "
Private Naisie Rennie 265171 died 1917 Nov 30th was Born Neilston enlisted Glasgow. Private D.O.W 265171 SDGW Egypt Cameronians Scottish Rifles 7th Scottish Rifles: Remembered with Honour Ramleh War Cemetery Israel and Palestine ref b5 Note SNWM has N Rennie Born Glasgow. SDGW has born Neilston Voters roll 1918 has a Robert Rennie (Bleachfield worker)*Not entitiled to vote of 50 high street Neilston Scottish Rifles: Remembered with Honour Ramleh War Cemetery Israel and Palestine refb5
This is the details of the guys we have I was wondering if we had missed anyone during our searches
Many Thanks Matt
-
Hello Matt
From a very quick glance through part of the book I don't see any Neilston, only Glasgow. Can you give me any names or number or even Battalion. I am going to be away from home for a few days but will have a more thorough search on my return.
Gingerbit
Thank you so much for this.
Cheers Matt
-
Hello Matt
I have been through your list and my book. Unfortunately there could be more names but if Glasgow is given as the home town it is impossible to find them.
on your list :
Pr. G Allison details the same
Pr. Alex Laird not in Roll of Honour probably due to discharge in 1916
Corp. Maurice McMahon details the same
Pr. Th. Slaven home town given as Blantyre
Pr. James Smith home town Paisley
Can't identify the James Smith at Barrhead, too many J. Smiths and none from Barrhead. Andrew Smith may have survived and would not be in my book but again many A. Smiths.
Pr. Archibald Stewart (not Stewart Archibald) no. 46192 1/8th batt.d. 29.7. 18 .
There is another A. Stewart no. 290770 also of 1/8th. batt. and d. 29.7.18 No place of death or home town given for either.
Pr. N. Rennie no. 265171 7th. batt. d. Palestine 30.11.17 Home town Glasgow.
Hope this is of some use to you.
Gingerbit
-
Whoops... forgot John Leonard. no.7508 2nd. Batt. d.7.9.16. home town not given.
::) ::)
-
Whoops... forgot John Leonard. no.7508 2nd. Batt. d.7.9.16. home town not given.
::) ::)
Thanks for this, it all helps our research The Archibald Stewart Is ok, its just a error on my part lifting the names from the data base.
The Glasgow thing is a pain as it makes them so hard to find, Also in ww2 they just put Renfrewshire which is worse agghhhhhh!
Cheers and many thanks
Love this site so many good people!
Cheers Matt