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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: wilsonhepple on Sunday 08 September 13 14:33 BST (UK)
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Any help would be much appreciated.
I would like to find out the location of a watercolour painting I'm thinking of buying.
The inscription on the back of the frame says 'The Bee Hive Inn, Whitley Bay.
I'm curious to know if the building is still standing, and where..?
Thank you .
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Hi
It could be here:
http://www.beehiveearsdon.co.uk/
Also ~
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/restaurants-bars/review-beehive-inn-hartley-lane-1401028
Earsdon is in the right vicinity
Gadget
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GoogleStreet View http://goo.gl/maps/a2LRH
Stan
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Thank you for that information. :)
Yes, that's the same Inn.
The article mentions that it became a pub in 1896...
I wonder what year it became the 'Bee Hive'..as the building in the painting appears to be fairly old. ?
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It is shown as The Beehive on the 1860 OS map at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html Put the OPost Code NE25 0SZ in the search box.
Stan
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Hi again
The Chronicle article just says that it was built in the 18th century, so not sure what it was before 1896 :-\
I pass by quite often when going to the coast - maybe there's some more local history hidden in Google - will check :)
Gadget
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It is shown as The Beehive on the 1860 OS map at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html Put the Post Code NE25 0SZ in the search box.
Stan
Shown as Clark's Houses, The Bee Hive (P.H.)
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Following Stan's map refs, it looks like it's called Clarks House back in 1841 HO107/820/17/49/3 occupied by a Thomas Finley, publican
Note that he's not an Innkeeper.
Gadget
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So what's the difference between a publican and an innkeeper?
Nostalgic memories from your Googlemaps ref., Stan.
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So what's the difference between a publican and an innkeeper?
Stan will know :D
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Publican is a term for someone who keeps a public house which provides drink but does not provide food or lodgings. An Inn (Inn-keeper) was where persons were provided with food and drink and lodgings. A victualling house (Licensed Victualler) was one where persons were provided with food and drink but not lodgings,
A Beer House was only licensed to sell beer, a Public House could also sell wines and spirits.
Stan
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Thank you, Stan :)
So, until 1896, the Beehive/Clark's House only provided drinks and then they got more hospitable :D
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Just to add that places providing food and drink but not lodgings were called Taverns. LIcensing laws changed over time so those descriptions could vary.
Stan
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Thanks Stan .
I wondered about that because my best friend from childhood's father was a "publican" in Blyth.
Pineapple Inn - I've written about it in the past.
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Duh, I'm trying to add a image of the painting, but not having much luck ?
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I would love to see an image of this watercolour as I've had Sunday lunch there a few times in the past.
Inside there was a rabbit warren of tiny rooms with wonky doorways and floors. We often found friends had been eating in an adjoining room when we went to pay the bill!
I've heard it is recently under new management so don't know if the room configuration has been changed.
Gen in NBL England
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Here's a guide for you.
Carol
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Hope this works...
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Well done! What a nice little water colour.
Have you been told a date for it? It looks relatively modern in style and the Blue Star of the Newcastle Breweries is a give away.....
Gen in NBL England
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Well done...you got there ;D It's really lovely.
Carol
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Carol, yes, thank you so much for the guidance, I couldn't have done it without your help. :)
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Hi
Just to say that I went by the Beehive this afternoon. It looked very much like the photos and the painting. However, it didn't have the blue star and the road was a wee bit more level ;D
I think your painting might well have been an entry to a Newcastle Breweries competition or some such.
Gadget
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Style is a bit like John Coatsworth - the Bendy Artist. If it's one of his it will be worth a bit!
Gen in NBL England
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I like the watercolour. Is the real thing as wonky as that?
I don't think it's a very old painting.
Mike
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Is the real thing as wonky as that?
Mike
See GoogleStreet View http://goo.gl/maps/a2LRH
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Hi Mike
From a link I gave in my Reply#1 many moons ago! - Sunday 8 Sept
This is what it looked like today:
http://i3.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article1381794.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/beehive-inn-334589968-1381794.jpg
I would have taken a photo but the traffic was a bit heavy
;D
Gadget
PS -got some nice photos of Cullercoats, though :)
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Definitely some artistic licence there!
Thanks both
Mike