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Title: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Thursday 05 September 13 13:54 BST (UK)
Hi,

Is there anybody researching the Faulkner family from Wicklow and Carlow?
Hugh Faulkner married Henrietta Maria Butler.

Thanks,
Cindy
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 05 September 13 14:14 BST (UK)
I'm not looking at Faulkners but have some Butlers!
What time period are you looking at?
Where did Hugh and Henrietta marry?
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Thursday 05 September 13 15:07 BST (UK)
Hello Myluck,

I do not know when or where they married.  Henrietta Maria Butler was the daughter of Sir Richard Butler, Bart of Garryhunden, County Carlow.  Hugh Faulkner predeceased Henrietta.  She died in her 78th year in 1870.

Cintombi
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 05 September 13 17:23 BST (UK)
Logically if Henrietta was born c1792 they married sometime after 1810 (when she was 18)
Records are scarce for those years but as her father was a Sir, his lineage maybe available
This presumably is the reference to Henrietta’s deth LINK (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRRV-K3T)
There is a Hugh Faulkner listed on Pigot & Co., City of Dublin and Hibernian Provincial Directory (1824) and on Pettigrew & Oulton, Dublin Almanac & General Register of Ireland (1845) in Leighlin Bridge – both these locations would tie in with the connections you have so far and could pin point where the couple lived

There is a Mrs Henrietta Faulkner listed in Slaters’ Almanac in 1846 at 23 Pembroke Road Dublin as Noibility, Gentry and Clergy – this could, if proven to be her, imply that she was then a widow

something to think about as you search
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Thursday 05 September 13 18:06 BST (UK)
Hello Myluck,
Thank you for you valuable input. 23 Pembroke street is the same address that I have for a Catherine Faulkner marrying Capt. Charles William Gore in 1843. She was the daughter of Hugh Faulkner.

Cintombi
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: myluck! on Friday 06 September 13 08:29 BST (UK)
If I get a chance later today I'll check a few more references and see if I can match with the address again
There is a good possibility that Hugh died prior to 1846 when Henrietta started being referred to but cannot be taken for granted.

Catherine's marriage church record 1843 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/435fa80578289)
There is a witness named Arthur Faulkner who could provide a clue for your search
Presuming Catherine was 18+ would imply she was born before 1825
This then allow a logical conclusion that Hugh and Henrietta married between 1810 and 1825

Burke's Landed Gentry of Ireland, 1899 describes the marriage as to "Kate, dau of Hugh Faulkner of Fort Faulkner, Co. Wicklow"

Baptism in 1847 which may be a red herring but could be a lead  (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1061ae0201141)
(marriage of Arthur Faulkner to Louisa Anne DOWNING in 1847 shown in the Deputy Keeper of Ireland, Index to the Act or Grant Books, and to Original Wills, of the Diocese of Dublin 1272-1858 (26th, 30th and 31st Reports, 1894, 1899)
Civil Record of Marriage (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTBF-S3D) should show Father's name to help confirm

Baptism in 1849 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/aa7bba0010031)
which may again be a red herring but as it ties two names and the location of Carlow my be a lead - son Arthur and father Hugh

Fort Faulkner still exists and is current an equestrian centre
There is some information on line on this family if you google various combinations of  Faulkner/Wicklow; Faulkner/Carlow; etc.
This is an interesting link (http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction_faulkner-2.pdf) on papers held in the north on the extended family
I haven't read through completely but should be of valuable information

The status of the family implies that if you can pin point parishes you will possibly find details for their marriage and children etc.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Friday 06 September 13 10:36 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for all the information that you have sourced and passed on to me.  I am indeed trying to establish when Hugh Faulkner died and who his Parents were.  I know that there is a prominent Faulkner family in Tyrone in the middle 1700's and in the late 1700's some of the children must have migrated south to the Dublin, Carlow and Wicklow Counties.

Catherine was referred to as Kate -  Catherine and Charles Gore had a daughter Florence Henrietta Gore - she married Peter John Ryan and they immigrated to New Zealand.

I had picked up on the marriage of Arthur Faulkner to Louisa Anne DOWNING in 1847 and if I can recall I am sure that Hugh was shown as deceased at that point.  I may be wrong though.

I have done a lot of googling using various combinations and have found a lot of information.   I did also find the Faulkner papers in the Northern the "proni.gov.: site but have wondered whether this northern Faulkner family are connected to the Carlow/Wicklow Faulkner's.

Thanks so much once again Myluck.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: myluck! on Friday 06 September 13 13:25 BST (UK)
Found some links that should clear some things up for you

one I cannot post for copyright reasons but it confirms
Hugh Faulkner married Henrietta dau of Sir Thomas Butler

This Link (http://books.google.ie/books?id=ogQ-AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=sir+thomas+butler+ballintemple&source=bl&ots=MKeIkTM274&sig=2N8-hey_D5odbHXCmuBe8jJM9Ok&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sMcpUuyQBK6Q7AbO-4GoBQ&ved=0CDIQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=sir%20thomas%20butler%20ballintemple&f=false) gives the background to the Butler family from Ballintemple, Co. Carlow (near Tullow)

Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Friday 06 September 13 13:58 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: myluck! on Friday 06 September 13 14:01 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Tuyllamaghimma on Thursday 12 September 13 20:13 BST (UK)
Hi

The Faulkners from Carlow and Wicklow were originally from the North of Ireland. Hugh and Sam Faulkner were sons of William Faulkner of Cookstown, I think, who died 1781. They started a Beetling Mill at Wellbrooke which is now a working museum. Sam was a businessman in Dublin. and acquired a farm in Carlow and one in Wicklow. Hugh eventually moved to the farm in Carlow. His descendants lived in Carlow and Wicklow. There are relatives living in England now. Admiral Faulkner of HMS Edinburgh was a descendant. It was famously sunk circa 1943 with Russian gold on board.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Friday 13 September 13 11:14 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information on the Faulkner family.  Every little bit of information is welcome and appreciated.

Cintombi
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: bandc on Friday 13 September 13 16:30 BST (UK)
HI,
Just wondering if anyone with Faulkner connections in Wicklow has come across an Ephraim Faulkner. I am researching the people that lived in the townland of Aghowle outside the village of Ashford and there were Faulkners living in that area from at least early 1800s. The name Ephraim passed down through several generations and was still there in 1901 and 1911 census. I have seen an Ephraim Faulkner recorded in the Powerscourt/Enniskerry area as well and assume they are connected. As it is an unusual name I imagine if it turns up in other Faulkner families it might mean they were connected.
Margaret
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 13 September 13 20:09 BST (UK)
Don't think this has been mentioned yet but PRONI have the Faulkner Papers in their collection and gives a sumary of the family - 
http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction_faulkner-2.pdf
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Tuyllamaghimma on Friday 13 September 13 22:23 BST (UK)
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Carloviana_Index_02.htm

Link is to an index of Carloviana Magazine. There are various articles about Faulkners starting in 1952. The magazine is not online but is in Carlow Library.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Cintombi on Saturday 14 September 13 06:36 BST (UK)
Thank you. I have read the Faulkner Papers held at Proni.  I am not in Ireland, so cannot get to any libraries or archives. I do appreciate all the help.
Cintombi
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Tuyllamaghimma on Sunday 28 May 17 23:50 BST (UK)
Carloviana archives online now. Index and search will find some articles on Carlow Faulkners
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Tuyllamaghimma on Sunday 28 May 17 23:51 BST (UK)
https://carlowhistorical.com/archives/
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: BillW on Thursday 29 June 17 06:57 BST (UK)
Prominent Irish author Turtle Bunbury's family are related to the Butlers.  If you haven't already, do contact him; he is very approachable.  Find him by Google.
Turtle has done extensive research into my Halpin family of Wicklow and Dublin.  The Halpin family's solicitors were a firm, still existing, named Hone & Falkiner.  Although that is the accepted spelling, I think in earlier times it may also have been spelled Faulkner.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Quicker on Friday 22 May 20 20:31 BST (UK)
Hi Margaret.

I found your posting looking for an Ephraim Faulkner.  I have a Mary Faulkner, b.Ireland 1831, in Canada by 1851, who gives her father's name as Ephraim, and her mother as Catherine.  I find an Ephraim Faulkner who is a soldier in the British Army, 91st Foot born Bray, Wicklow; then served in Canada.  Injured and pensioned.  Unsure if this is the same Ephraim who is her father.  As you say, it is an unusual name.  I'd be glad to know if you have found anything further.

Roger Quick
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: bandc on Saturday 23 May 20 15:44 BST (UK)
Hi Roger,
Will take a look back through my (not very organised) records and see if I can see any connections. Do you have approx. dates for when that Ephraim Faulkner was in the British army and injured in Canada? as that might help me to see if he matches any of the Ephraim Faulkner's that appear in Co. Wicklow over a number of generations.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: bandc on Saturday 23 May 20 16:53 BST (UK)
Roger,
Forget to ask what religion was your Mary Falkner?, most of the Wicklow Faulkners were Church of Ireland, but found a few who were Roman Catholic, think they changed religion to marry a Catholic.
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: Quicker on Saturday 23 May 20 17:59 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply. 
MaryAnn Faulkner was born Ireland 1831, and was in Quebec by 1853, when she married James Pinkham (a Dubliner, also British army) and secondly married a Joseph Warder in 1879, where her parents are named as Ephraim and Catherine Faulkner.  Mary's wedding was Anglican, and she gives her religion on census as Church of England. (So = Church of Ireland).  Her first two children however were baptized Roman Catholic, others Anglican. 

So the Ephraim I am seeking married a Catherine. 
This MAY be the same one:
Enlisted into the British Army 29 Feb 1820 in Dublin (91st Regt of Foot).  Age 19.  Born Bray, Wicklow.  Labourer. He was discharged in Spanishtown, West Indies, June 1823, having been wounded and lost his right eye, poor lad.
This record is part of the "Canada, British Regimental Registers of Service" (Ancestry), which is the only connection I find to Canada so far.  The one I'm looking for was in Ireland for the birth of his daughter MaryAnn in 1831.

Another, different, Ephraim Faulkner is attested in Dublin in 1861.

Thank you for any help you are to offer.

Roger Quick
Title: Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
Post by: bandc on Sunday 24 May 20 00:09 BST (UK)
Hi Roger, while  I did not have any matches for your Ephraim and Catherine Faulkner in my existing records I have had a look around at on line sources and have found baptism records for Anne, Elizabeth and Catherine (b. 1820s - 1830s)born to an Ephraim and Catherine Faulkner with connections to the Kilternan parish in Co. Dublin. If you would like to  communicate directly with me on my email (*) I can share these records with you and any additional records/information I have on the Wicklow Faulkner family that may have connections  to the family you are trying to trace. Margaret



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