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Henry(Harry) Rainbow
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1890 in Shefford, Beds
Any one know where to start looking please as I cannot find this person. Where is Shefford and would it have a Church to search for baptism?
Any help welcome.
Thank you,
Josie
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Seem to be Biggleswade District Families ? (The correct Regn District for Shefford)
Births Jun 1890
Rainbow Ann Biggleswade 3b 356
Rainbow Frank Biggleswade 3b 358
Rainbow Harry Biggleswade 3b 363
Rainbow Miriam Biggleswade 3b 359
Theres also a Harry born 1888 in that District, so unsurprisingly theres a choice on the 1891 census, both in Biggleswade Dist., one in Meppershall and one in Clifton ...
We need to differentiate (no explicit link to Shefford in 1891 or 1901) age shown may be out a year or so ... - do you know any more, like who and when he married - Fathers name would be on Marriage Cert
Added: There are References to SHEFFORD in the last census available (Meppersall - near Shefford, and Clifton Road, Shefford), when both Harrys are still unmarried. So I guess its a small area we dealing with ?
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Departure
1923 10 Aug Age: 33
Southampton, England
Age: 33. Home address. 185 Knox Road, Wellingborough. Profession. Harvester.
This is he when he went to Canada.
He married
Sarah Jane Smith B: 1893 in Skipton, Yorkshire
Marriage was Wellingborough.
He died 1968 in Northamptonshire. Just after the dates covered by Probate records.
Looks like I might have to get the marriage cert but was hoping to spare the expense. ( Don't we all). Reason why I was looking forward to a miracle and finding baptism.
At least you have narrowed it down to 2 and I have the reg district.
Many thanks
Regards, Josie.
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In 1901 and 1911 the two Harrys are still unmarried, birthplaces Meppershall and Clifton respectively. No reference to Shefford in any census. You need the marriage cert to get the father's name in order to differentiate them.
Try https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=ll to find Shefford, Meppershall and Clifton.
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There are References to SHEFFORD in the last census available (Meppersall - near Shefford, and Clifton Road, Shefford), when both Harrys are still unmarried. So I guess its a small area we dealing with ?
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He married
Sarah Jane Smith B: 1893 in Skipton, Yorkshire
Marriage was Wellingborough.
He died 1968 in Northamptonshire. Just after the dates covered by Probate records.
Regards, Josie.
Hi,
Have you seen this probate.
Harry Rainbow of 1 Irthlingborough Road Wellingborough Northamptonshire died 7/02/1964 at the General Hospital Northampton Probate Peterborough 20/03 to Sarah Jane Rainbow widow. 3424 pounds.
Harry Rainbow death Mar 1964, Northampton (3b 734)
Birth Date abt 1891
Age at Death 73
Sharon
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Very many thanks. Don't know how I missed that. It all fits.
For info to you all; The Harry born 1888 died in 1963 aged 75 so reckon that clears that one up. Must now send for marriage cert to prove the Harry with parents Joe and Matilda is the right one.
Many thanks.
Josie.
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Did they have a daughter called Vera?
Edited.
There is a passenger list for the ship Athenia that has Sarah aged 31 and a child Vera aged 9 that departed from Liverpool to Quebec on 25/04/1924.
Address given was 50 Melton Road Wellingborough.
Sharon
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There are References to SHEFFORD in the last census available (Meppersall - near Shefford, and Clifton Road, Shefford), when both Harrys are still unmarried. So I guess its a small area we dealing with ?
Yes, I know that's what you wrote. Meppershall is undeniably near Shefford, but in 1911 they were, and still are, two separate parishes. And notwithstanding that Joe Rainbow gave his postal address as Clifton Rd, Shefford, in 1911, it must have been in the parish of Clifton as that's where he was enumerated. And he and all of his children gave Clifton, not Shefford, as their birthplace, unsurprising as in 1891 he was living in Clifton Fields, Clifton, and it's 1890 that's the key date. Where he was living in 1911 is irrelevant. But even though one gave near Shefford as his postal address and the other gave a postal address of Shefford it still gets us nowhere in trying to decide which one is Josie's.
I was merely trying to make the point that neither of the Harrys lived in the enumeration parish of Shefford, or gave Shefford as their birthplace, which is where Josie gave as the birthplace. If you look at googlemaps you'll see that Clifton and Meppershall adjoin Shefford.
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Harry 1888 went on to marry Annie Hare in 1913 so it is not him.
My Harry, by process of elimination, has parents ;
Joseph (Joe) Rainbow
1864 – 1936
Matilda Crossley
1862 – 1936
You are correct that he and Sarah Jane had a daughter Vera.
I am now certain enough to splash the cash for certs and many thanks to you all.
As ever, you clear the wood so I can see the right tree.
Regards,
Josie.
p.s. The old saying wishing on a rainbow will give you a headache.
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But did you find a pot of gold at the end of the Rainbow?
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No. The leprechauns had got there first.
Little blighters.
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No. The leprechauns had got there first.
Little blighters.
:D :D :D
Sharon
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There are References to SHEFFORD in the last census available (Meppersall - near Shefford, and Clifton Road, Shefford), when both Harrys are still unmarried. So I guess its a small area we dealing with ?
Yes, I know that's what you wrote. Meppershall is undeniably near Shefford, but in 1911 they were, and still are, two separate parishes. And notwithstanding that Joe Rainbow gave his postal address as Clifton Rd, Shefford, in 1911, it must have been in the parish of Clifton as that's where he was enumerated. And he and all of his children gave Clifton, not Shefford, as their birthplace, unsurprising as in 1891 he was living in Clifton Fields, Clifton, and it's 1890 that's the key date. Where he was living in 1911 is irrelevant. But even though one gave near Shefford as his postal address and the other gave a postal address of Shefford it still gets us nowhere in trying to decide which one is Josie's.
I was merely trying to make the point that neither of the Harrys lived in the enumeration parish of Shefford, or gave Shefford as their birthplace, which is where Josie gave as the birthplace. If you look at googlemaps you'll see that Clifton and Meppershall adjoin Shefford.
My goodness, no need to write a tome !
The OP was explicit about the PoB being SHEFFORD, but as we all know such quotes arent always accurate, so I was drawing attention to the fact that SHEFFORD had a mention in the un-nameable census ...
Your post seemed to initially complement, but then contradict mine to some extent, so I wanted to be sure if you had seen it - thats all.
Pleased to see a happy ending 8)
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Joe Rainbow,lived at Bedford Road Shefford he had two sons joe and albert,both builders..William Rainbow lived at Stondon Road Meppreshall William was a bricklayer ,he had two sons Alan ( plumb er) and Joe ( carpenter ) who taught me to cut a hipped roof Regards Utelme
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Utelme.
Very interesting. What dates are you talking about? approx will do please.
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for both familys,from 1920 to 1970 And a correction on the name joe ( carpenter ) from Meppershall .Christian name Donald Regards Utelme