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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: louiseanne on Sunday 01 September 13 00:48 BST (UK)
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Hello All,
I'm visiting Scotland from Australia next year (Yi ha) and I have details of my GG grandmothers original 1847 marriage certificate. It states she was married in Regents Church Glasgow with James Taylor being the minister. My question is, Do church's allow visitors to visit and check out their records? Or are all the records kept elsewhere? Would the records list her parents? I have hit a brickwall with Helen Muir and would like to take advantage of being "on site" so to speak. Looking forward to your replies, Many thanks.
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The most recent Regent Place Church, Dennistoun was demolished in 1983.
I think the one you would be looking for was gone long before that.
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/167731/details/glasgow+10+craigpark+regent+place+church/
http://www.dennistounconservationsociety.org.uk/page.asp?Title=Regent+Place+Church&Section=10&Page=4
http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSA00613
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The original Regent Place Church was on Blackfriars Street.
Go to Old Maps http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html put in the co-ords 259846 665024, you'll see where it was.
It's there on the 1860 & 1861 maps. By 1895 it's a railway goods yard.
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Thanks for your info - well, that will rule that visit out! I imagine the records would have gone elsewhere - Scotland's People or another repository?
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A visit to The Mitchell Library would be the best thing to do. You can contact them to ask what records they have from the original church. http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/index.php?a=contactus
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Thank you very much for the information.
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Old parish records rarely include parents names. It was also very rare for people to marry in a church.
They usually married at the brides parents home.
Where did you get the marriage info from ?. Scotland's people only has one marriage for a Helen Muir & William Thomson in Barony Parish Glasgow in 1847.
All it says is " William Thomson printer & Helen Muir both residing in Barony Parish". 12 December 1847. No place of marriage and no witnesses recorded.
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Hi
Some Church of Scotland Parishes recorded events that took place in churches of other denominations. It is possible that Barony have recorded a marriage that took place in the Regent Place United Presbyterian Church.
This topic has also been asked on at least one other forum.
Andy
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Weeaza,
I have a very tattered original Marriage Certificate from 1847 with the details on it. I also bought a copy through SP in the hope it may give more info. It gave me the detail that William was a printer, but little else. (I often look at that piece of paper that has been around the world, carried from house to house and has (luckily) ended up with someone who treasures it)
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When and where did Helen die?
What were the names of their children in birth order?
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Helen died in Melbourne, Australia in 1892 with the name of Ellen FOULDS.
I am VERY baffled by the DOB of her children as there is conflicting information from the Death Certificates available and I cannot locate 3 of her daughters births registered in Australia or her 2nd marriage certificate. So I shall give you to info as I have it, conflicting as it is ........
She and William THOMSON had; Sarah DOB 14/04/1850 in Belfast.(Ulster Historical Foundation)
Helen DOB ? 1853 in Belfast died 1855 (Aust) 2yrs 4 months
Jane DOB ? 1856 in Aust
Ellen DOB ? 1863 in Aust died 1892 (Aust)Age 28 yrs
Married James FOULDS Elizabeth ? 1862 in Aust died 15/04/1864 .Age14 months
Elizabeth 6/04/1866 died 1912 age 46 yrs
Just to add to the confusion, James FOULDS death certificate states he married Ellen in 1861!