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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: escollay on Thursday 29 August 13 00:35 BST (UK)
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Hi
I m looking for some information regarding the McCurdy family of Argyll, who later moved to Belfast. The line is as follows:
Lauchlan MacCurdy m(1816) Mary McKenzie
William McCurdy (1823-?) m(1857) Jane Gary (1833-?)
Lauchlan McCurdy (1858-1930) m(1883) Barbara McIntosh (1856-1928)
Thanks
Eoin
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Hi
Were all of the above events in Scotland?
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Hi all ,
Not sure about the first one although there are a few births that may match in Kilmory Bute(1820's)
2nd -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT28-DRC
3rd -
Lauchlan McCurdy / Barbara McIntosh marriage 1883 Campsie Stirling(Scotlandspeople)
Eoin , could you tell us what type of information you are after ?
ev
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Hi
All of these events happened in Scotland, apart from the deaths of Lauchlan and Barbara which happened in Belfast.
I am looking to expand upon the family tree, ie can it go back further/fleshing out cousins. Also looking to hook up with people with common ancestors
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Just a general thought. McCurdy is an Irish name is it not so perhaps that's where they originated before the Argyll connection do you think?
Imber
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The McCurdy's have been long associated with Argyll & Bute since before the Irish connection. Five brothers fled Argyll for Rathlin Island during the reformation which is where the Irish connection comes from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCurdy
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That's really interesting. My daughter's long term boyfriend is a McCurdy so that will give us something to chat about when conversation lags.
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Hi Eoin ! My McCurdie/McCurdy family originated from NI, principally Rathlin Island. If you do get yourself back to Belfast..., there’s a ton of info about them and one way or another, you’ll surely link up with Petheric McCurdy c1640 Isle of Bute, d1700 Ballintoy, County Antrim. (husband of Margaret Stewart 1644-1747) Lol !
Note: My regiment The Scots Guards was founded in 1642; specially formed to protect the NI Protestants at the time ! http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3994/scotsguards.jpg
And the problems are still not solved ! Lol !
Mine is linked by a very fine thread via Mary McCurdie 1760-1840..., wife of my 4xG John Black of Rathlin Island. They had a son called Archibald 1791-1877 who died in Campbeltown and he had a son called Daniel 1835-1898; a fisherman.
This book is an absolute must..., “Kintyre... The Hidden Past” by Angus Martin:
In it he goes into depth concerning the Irish community in Argyll.
Quote:
“The emergence of the Blacks in the Campbeltown fishing community may be traced to Daniel, born in Ballycastle, c1833 (some say Rathlin Island). His parents were Archibald, labourer, born c1787 (son of John Black, crofter, and Mary McCurdie) and Jane McKinlay, born c1798, both on Rathlin. All three names were recorded on the island in 1669 - Brian and Allex McCurdy in Kinramer, Pat Black in Ballygill, Malcum and Arc Black in Kilpatrcik. There were said to be three branches of Blacks on Rathlin - one Scottish and two of native Irish descent. Daniel Black had two known brothers - Duncan who went to Glasgow as a carpenter and James, born c1837 in Ballycastle, who became a seaman and who married Ann Sharp in Campbeltown. He drowned c1866.
The Blacks settled in Campbeltown c1838. Daniel's first wife was Margaret Morrison, who died 29 April 1874 in Campbeltown, aged 39. Her parents were John Morrison, labourer, born Rathlin, and Mary McCurdie, born Campbeltown. The Morrisons and Blacks were neighbours in Wide Close * in 1851. His second wife was Sarah Newlands, widow of Michael Durnan. She died on 8 February 1898 in Kirk Close, Daniel Blacks first skiff, of which there is a record, was the Maggie in 1869. She was owned by his father. Daniel Black's first marriage produced five fishermen sons - Archibald (8 October 1855), Duncan (28 July 1858), Daniel (6 October 1860), John (28 April 1864) and James (born 27 January 1868.
* Wide Close was considered the worst slum in Campbeltown.
NI cemetery head-stones also confirm names and dates. And it’s the history books that provide the data for the McCurdies, leading to the Lords of the Isles.
“Mary McCurdie born in Campbeltown” 28 April 1803-1 September 1881. No smoke without fire..., Mary’s parents were Charles McCurdy b1780 Ireland..., and Margaret Mary McMath 27 April 1784 in Campbeltown.
I have Margaret’s birth certificate and all 3 BDMs for Mary. Just PM me with an e-mail. ;)
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Hi Iain
My great grandfather James Black was your ggf Daniels brother.
Im fascinated about our link with the McCurdies and Ballintoy Stewarts.Ive a couple of questions I want to ask you and I wonder if I could send you a pm email?
Cheers
Jim
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Thanks for asking Jim ! No problem ! :)
PS I have your James's wedding and death certificate so perhaps it would be a good idea to send me an e-mail address.
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Hi Iain
If you drop me a line at * I can gleam some more info from you.
Many thanks!
Jim
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Hi Iain
If you drop me a line at * I can gleam some more info from you.
Many thanks!
Jim
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Hi Iain
If you drop me a line at * I can gleam some more info from you.
Many thanks!
Jim
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Hi Jim..., lol ! We 'live and learn.' ;) As I said, you have to send me a 'PM' with your e-address.
..., Iain.
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Hi Eoin ! My McCurdie/McCurdy family originated from NI, principally Rathlin Island. If you do get yourself back to Belfast..., there’s a ton of info about them and one way or another, you’ll surely link up with Petheric McCurdy c1640 Isle of Bute, d1700 Ballintoy, County Antrim. (husband of Margaret Stewart 1644-1747) Lol !
Note: My regiment The Scots Guards was founded in 1642; specially formed to protect the NI Protestants at the time ! http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3994/scotsguards.jpg
And the problems are still not solved ! Lol !
Mine is linked by a very fine thread via Mary McCurdie 1760-1840..., wife of my 4xG John Black of Rathlin Island. They had a son called Archibald 1791-1877 who died in Campbeltown and he had a son called Daniel 1835-1898; a fisherman.
This book is an absolute must..., “Kintyre... The Hidden Past” by Angus Martin:
In it he goes into depth concerning the Irish community in Argyll.
Quote:
“The emergence of the Blacks in the Campbeltown fishing community may be traced to Daniel, born in Ballycastle, c1833 (some say Rathlin Island). His parents were Archibald, labourer, born c1787 (son of John Black, crofter, and Mary McCurdie) and Jane McKinlay, born c1798, both on Rathlin. All three names were recorded on the island in 1669 - Brian and Allex McCurdy in Kinramer, Pat Black in Ballygill, Malcum and Arc Black in Kilpatrcik. There were said to be three branches of Blacks on Rathlin - one Scottish and two of native Irish descent. Daniel Black had two known brothers - Duncan who went to Glasgow as a carpenter and James, born c1837 in Ballycastle, who became a seaman and who married Ann Sharp in Campbeltown. He drowned c1866.
The Blacks settled in Campbeltown c1838. Daniel's first wife was Margaret Morrison, who died 29 April 1874 in Campbeltown, aged 39. Her parents were John Morrison, labourer, born Rathlin, and Mary McCurdie, born Campbeltown. The Morrisons and Blacks were neighbours in Wide Close * in 1851. His second wife was Sarah Newlands, widow of Michael Durnan. She died on 8 February 1898 in Kirk Close, Daniel Blacks first skiff, of which there is a record, was the Maggie in 1869. She was owned by his father. Daniel Black's first marriage produced five fishermen sons - Archibald (8 October 1855), Duncan (28 July 1858), Daniel (6 October 1860), John (28 April 1864) and James (born 27 January 1868.
* Wide Close was considered the worst slum in Campbeltown.
NI cemetery head-stones also confirm names and dates. And it’s the history books that provide the data for the McCurdies, leading to the Lords of the Isles.
“Mary McCurdie born in Campbeltown” 28 April 1803-1 September 1881. No smoke without fire..., Mary’s parents were Charles McCurdy b1780 Ireland..., and Margaret Mary McMath 27 April 1784 in Campbeltown.
I have Margaret’s birth certificate and all 3 BDMs for Mary. Just PM me with an e-mail. ;)
Hi Iain
Thank you for the reply & apologies it has taken over a year to get back to you! I have traced the McCurdy's back to a Lauchlan MacCurdy born c1795 in Balmenoch. I'm not sure how this then fits in with the Irish connection. Lauchlan married Mary McKenzie on 30/1/1816 in Kilmore. Any connection?
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Eoin - just seeing if this email link is still valid.
I have a fair bit of detail on the family. There was a son William (he was married with family, living in US), a daughter Molly (Mary McIntosh), who never married, a daughter Jane Garry who died young. They were buried in Belfast City Cemetery. He was a blacksmith.
Please come back to me and I can flesh out more detail, if this is still valid contact.
Kind regards
Shane McCurdy,
Northern Ireland
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Yes Shane Id love to know what information you have! Do you have my email address?
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s.h.mccurdy@ukgateweay.net
Would I be right in believing that your father-in-law is Allan Joseph McCurdy born in 1953
His father Laughlin Josepg [1921-1971] being a son of Allan McIntosh McCurdy [1885-1936]
Years ago I met up with Carol Lynn Ropp who is a granddaughter of Allan McI McC's brother William - she was then living in Normal, Illinois.
I was able to give her an album of post cards that Molly had collected over the years, which I received from a gentleman who had wound up her estate, in 1984.
There is also a whole connection who use the Curdy version of the surname ... John Gary McCurdy aka Curdy [1862-1930]
I have spent years seeking to collate and record the genealogy of the McCurdy family in general, and have been quite successful for some family connections and less so for others ...
I live near Moira, so reckon I am not too far from you (presuming you are still in the Belfast area? ... although I may be wrong on that lol
Hope to hear from you soon
Kind regards
Shane
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...McCurdy family of Argyll, who later moved to Belfast.
1911 census
House 68 in Gainsborough Drive (Duncairn, Antrim).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Gainsborough_Drive/140473/
...and in 1901
House 47 in Roseleigh Street (Clifton, Antrim).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Roseleigh_Street/962923/
The three youngest McCurdy daughters were born in Belfast City.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000318941/
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Lauchlan McCurdy (1858-1930) m(1883) Barbara McIntosh (1856-1928)
...the deaths of Lauchlan and Barbara which happened in Belfast.
D/1930/47/1007/45/272 Lauchlan McCurdy 9th May 1930 70 Male Belfast
D/1928/48/1007/93/369 Barbara McCurdy 25th July 1928 72 Female Belfast
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/