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Title: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Tuesday 27 August 13 12:07 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out who John Frederick BOYD's parents were and when exactly he came to New Zealand. He was married in 1850 to Mary Ann POTE. He lived in Wellington, but in later life moved to Whangarei, where he died on 13 January 1900. Newspaper obit says he was 88; death cert states 85, occupation tailor. It offers no clues as to his parents, and place of birth is listed as England. A tree on Ancestry says London, but likewise no parental clues. I find a John Boyd born in London 1811, but baptised 1814, and the father's occupation is listed as a weaver, but that is a tenuous connection to say the least. There are around 14 other John Boyds I can see listed as being baptised between 1810 and 1820. It may be a long shot, but finding him on a shipping list may give a clue as to where in England he actually came from. Any help or suggestions most welcome!
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Tuesday 27 August 13 12:17 BST (UK)
A little more searching finds him on jury lists in New Plymouth n the 1850s, so maybe he was from Devon instead of London?...
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 27 August 13 19:51 BST (UK)
Hello,

This would be a bit of a stretch but were there any children born 1875 or later?
Around this time the birth registration information included the birthplace of the parents...........

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: Beg Clonrode... on Tuesday 27 August 13 23:31 BST (UK)
Hello...

Archives NZ list the following record...

Naval and Military Land Claims Commissions, 1896 and 1910
BOYD, John Frederick - Wellington Defence Force, Whangarei


http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=8097107 (http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=8097107)

Worth a look as it may mention a regimental number, which may in turn lead to an enlistment record.

Regards
Beg
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: Janette on Wednesday 28 August 13 00:58 BST (UK)
The chap who died in Whangarei was John Francis Boyd

1900/845 Boyd  John Francis  85Y

Surname: BOYD
Forenames: JOHN FRANCIS
Age: 85 Years
Gender: Male
Date of Death: 13 Jan 1900
Funeral Director: 
Cemetery: Kioreroa Cemetery, Gumdigger Place, Rewa Rewa Rd. Whangarei
Plot Location: Row. Plot BLANK
Date of Burial: Not recorded
Body / Ashes Body

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Wednesday 28 August 13 07:43 BST (UK)
Yes, I had noted that. Perhaps the informant wasn't quite right with the middle name. No parents names or anything like that on the death cert. the death was noted in the Wellington papers. I will check if any children were born after 1875, but I think that is a longshot! Found his wife seems to have arrived on the Oriental (New Plymouth) 1841, as a 10 year old with Ann (I think in early 30s off hand) and a younger sister, Jemima. No Boyd though
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Wednesday 28 August 13 07:45 BST (UK)
If anyone has a spare moment at the Wellington Archives, I would appreciate a look-up of
Boyd, John Frederick - Wellington Defence Force, Whangarei (R8097107)    1896? - 1911?
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Wednesday 28 August 13 09:22 BST (UK)
Interestingly enough, there was a second marriage with a child in 1878. Ordered the certificate.
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Thursday 29 August 13 06:24 BST (UK)
Most annoying. The 1878 marriage cert from Wellington gives no parental or pace of birth details. Maybe the birth certificate will
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 29 August 13 06:35 BST (UK)
That was a shame about the lack of details on the marriage certificate. To avoid falling into this situation in future, have a look at the BDM website which sets out the "data collected" for the various years for births, deaths & marriage registrations.............

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Thursday 29 August 13 07:00 BST (UK)
Good advice. I have had marriages from this time period before with the info on it, so was quite surprised.

Checking on that advice, find the marriage was 2 years too early for that info, but the birth cert should be OK.
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: Beg Clonrode... on Thursday 29 August 13 10:01 BST (UK)
Hello...

The following link mentions your John.

It says he's in Vol.97 of the Whangarei C of E burial register.

No idea if it will have any additional details to the death certificate but no harm in emailing and asking.

http://pearlspad.net.nz/Bap.Burial&MarIndexes.htm (http://pearlspad.net.nz/Bap.Burial&MarIndexes.htm)

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The AtoJs have several mentions of your John's unsuccessful land claim. No mention of a regimental number but the word "Petition" is mentioned often. Maybe the item held at Archives is your John's original petition. Would be handy as he's sure to mention his regimental number.

Or not :-)

AtoJs
http://atojs.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/atojs?a=q&l=en (http://atojs.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/atojs?a=q&l=en)

Regards
Beg
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Thursday 29 August 13 10:49 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Beg. :)
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: Davy.1 on Saturday 12 October 13 22:21 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out who John Frederick BOYD's parents were and when exactly he came to New Zealand. He was married in 1850 to Mary Ann POTE. He lived in Wellington, but in later life moved to Whangarei, where he died on 13 January 1900. Newspaper obit says he was 88; death cert states 85, occupation tailor. It offers no clues as to his parents, and place of birth is listed as England. A tree on Ancestry says London, but likewise no parental clues. I find a John Boyd born in London 1811, but baptised 1814, and the father's occupation is listed as a weaver, but that is a tenuous connection to say the least. There are around 14 other John Boyds I can see listed as being baptised between 1810 and 1820. It may be a long shot, but finding him on a shipping list may give a clue as to where in England he actually came from. Any help or suggestions most welcome!

Hi I am working on the family at the moment the down-line of his daughter Amelia who m. Robert Sutherland, and then Christoffer Thorbjorensen.
Be great to chat with you  :)
Regards  David
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Sunday 13 October 13 02:59 BST (UK)
Hi David,
 You are most welcome to send me a private message about this topic! John Boyd is an ancestor of my cousin - I have been looking at her family tree.
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: spades on Sunday 13 October 13 03:09 BST (UK)
Hi George,

As David has only made one post he won't be able to send Personal Messages (PM) until he makes two more. In the meantime I suggest you send him a PM with your email address. He may be able to receive it.

Congratulations on making a connection. ;D

Spades
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Sunday 13 October 13 03:46 BST (UK)
Thanks Spades! And I have made a connection with Busbridge descendants over on Ancestry - was contacted out of the blue, so sent a reply and am now waiting to hear back from them.
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: spades on Sunday 13 October 13 04:16 BST (UK)
Congratulations cubed, then. 8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: John Frederick Boyd -1840s arrival?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Sunday 13 October 13 04:17 BST (UK)
 ;D