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Would anyone with access to the Eston parish records (and/or nearby parishes) be so kind as to look up a Susannah Fawcett, born in the Middlesbrough registration district in the July-Sep Q 1886. If she is the person I suspect she is, the parents will be Thomas and Ann. Any other children born to the same parents will also be of interest.
Many, many thanks.
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Hi cannot help out with baptism, but in 1891 their is a Susannah Fawcett aged 4 with parents John/Ellen where for the first time in my experience the second part of the original is missing so no birth places are shown?
They are in Sunderland RG12/4140/4/1
Keyboard86
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Thanks for that, keyboard86 - I'll check it out. :)
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1901 census for the family keyboard66 found , all say they are born Sunderland
RG13; Piece: 4712; Folio: 75; Page: 6.
Father John is a Blacksmith
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The above birth information for Susannah, is also available from Tees Valley Indexes.
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In this instance the record is held at the Guisborough Register Office. They can't issue
you with actual details, but they are able to say whether you are right or wrong. In this
case you could query whether her father is John and if not, ask if his name is Thomas.
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Hope this helps !! :)
Kind regards,
Pels.
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Thanks very much! I think that would be the best route to go down as, if she is the right person, I definitely want to get the certificate.
ETA: I e-mailed the register office and, despite the website saying it could take up to 5 days, they got back to me immediately. They confirmed that the mother was Ann Fawcett and there was no father listed, which suggests it is the person I thought it was. I'm going to send for the certificate.
Thanks, everybody, for all your help.
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Thanks very much! I think that would be the best route to go down as, if she is the right person, I definitely want to get the certificate.
ETA: I e-mailed the register office and, despite the website saying it could take up to 5 days, they got back to me immediately. They confirmed that the mother was Ann Fawcett and there was no father listed, which suggests it is the person I thought it was. I'm going to send for the certificate.
Thanks, everybody, for all your help.
Hi glad to see you got such a speedy reply, to be honest I was unsure of the 1891 I posted! So where were Ann and Susannah in 1891, had Ann married ie?
Keyboard86
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So where were Ann and Susannah in 1891, had Ann married ie?
Ann emigrated to the US not long after Susannah was born and either divorced her first husband and married my great-great-uncle or just conveniently forgot about her first marriage! But, oddly enough, in 1891 she was back in the UK visiting her mother in Eston when the census was taken. By then, though, she and Susannah had taken my great-great-uncle's surname, Branton (I suspect he was Susannah's biological father).
What I really wanted to know was whether Susannah was registered as Branton or Fawcett and a clue as to who her father was. I'm hoping the certificate will confirm that the Guisborough Susannah is "my" Susannah and at least one of these questions will be answered.
Thanks again for your help. You've helped me eliminate one of the false positives.
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So where were Ann and Susannah in 1891, had Ann married ie?
Ann emigrated to the US not long after Susannah was born and either divorced her first husband and married my great-great-uncle or just conveniently forgot about her first marriage! But, oddly enough, in 1891 she was back in the UK visiting her mother in Eston when the census was taken. By then, though, she and Susannah had taken my great-great-uncle's surname, Branton (I suspect he was Susannah's biological father).
What I really wanted to know was whether Susannah was registered as Branton or Fawcett and a clue as to who her father was. I'm hoping the certificate will confirm that the Guisborough Susannah is "my" Susannah and at least one of these questions will be answered.
Thanks again for your help. You've helped me eliminate one of the false positives.
Just in case this helps anyone looking is this the census and passenger lists
1891 RG12; Piece: 4015; Folio: 10; Page: 13 - Middlesborough
Ann Branton 30 Cornwall
Susannah 4 Pensylvania US
Beatrice 6 months ‘’
Visitors Betsy Rogers 53
this looks to be Ann with husband Thomas
1881 RG11; Piece: 4858; Folio: 6; Page: 5
Thomas FAWCETT 24 South Eston Yorkshire Lab at Iron Stone Mines
Ann 20 St Dennis Cornwall
Incoming passenger list
Anna Branton 30, Susan 4 child & Beatrice 1 inft.
Birth Date: abt 1861
Age: 30
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: Jan 1891
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Celtic
Did they make a mistake with Susannah's name when leaving UK definately looks to read Lizzie ???
Anna Branton 30 dittoed as married, Lizzie 5 child, Beatrice 1 Inft.
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1891
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: New York
Ship Name: Teutonic
Was Ann's maiden name STONE?
marriage 1880 Middlesbro'
Thomas Fawcett name on same page Ann STONE
1871 RG10; Piece: 2221; Folio: 39; Page: 1
Betsey Stone Wid 34 (1881c married to Henry Rodgers)
Ann 9 St Dennis Cornwall (father is William 1861c)
Isabella 4 (1881 census Isabella Stone Rodgers age 14)
Mary Grigg W 76 mother
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Thanks for that, Ladyhawk. I'd seen the census entries and been told about the passenger lists by another researcher working the Fawcett family, but I must admit I've never seen the original passenger list documents myself, so I can't really comment on the Lizzie thing (my correspondent told me it said Susannah, but he may just have seen what he was expecting it to say)
On (the hugely improved since I last used it) FamilySearch website, I found immigration cards for an Ann Brandon [sic] and her infant daughter, Susanna, who arrived in Philadelphia from Liverpool on the ship Indiana, November 28th 1887. I suspect these might be the same people going to the US for the first time.
According to findagrave.com, Ann(a) died of consumption in Nanticoke, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania in 1893.
Susanna(h) appears in the US 1900 census, as "Susie Branton" ED26 Fell Township, Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania (sorry, I really don't know how to cite US census entries):
Matthew Branton b May 1861 39
Elisabeth A Branton b Sept 1858 41
William Dawe b May 1879 21
Jennie Branton b June 1895 5
Fred Branton b Aug 1897 2
Rena Dawe b July 1886 13
Susie Branton b July 1886 13
Beatrice Branton b. Sept 1890 9
Edward Branton b. March 1892 8
This census gives her birthplace as Pennsylvania (as does the 1891 census), but in several other documents she states she was born in England, including the documentation for her marriage on 17/6/1908 to Robert Algar. To my knowledge, she never uses the surname Fawcett.
And, yes, Ann Fawcett/Branton's maiden name was Stone. In the 1881 census, my great-great-uncle, her future second husband is lodging with her mother and stepfather in Eston (but his surname is misspelt as "Ranton")
The fact that several documents say Susie Branton was born Matthew Branton's daughter in Pennsylvania still makes me wonder if the Susannah Fawcett born at Guisborough is the same person, but presumably the certificate may give me some clues, when it arrives.
And if anyone else is researching this family, please do get in touch!
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You may already have seen this but just in case there is a public tree on Anc*y with following info.
Here's some of the info. from that tree
Thomas Fawcett Birth ABT 1857 in Eston, Yorkshire (N.R.), England
Death 13 May 1935 in Trenton, Mercer County, New Jersey, USA
Parents named as William Fawcett & Martha Sanderson
Married 11 Aug 1888 Sarah Jane Bayless b1860 d 1913
marriage source Non Uk church Register Protestant Episocpal Trenton Mercer New Jersey USA
6 children
Ann Stone parents named as William STONE & Besty GRIGG
Burial 1893 24 Jun Age: 32 Nanticoke Cemetery, Nanticoke, Luzerne Co., Pennsylvania, USA
married Thomas Fawcett 7 Sep 1880 Registry Office Middlesbro'
no marriage date given to Mathew Branton b1861
another public tree has a photo of Thomas Fawcett & also two of his father William
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Thanks. I'm in touch with two relatives of Thomas Fawcett via Ancestry and GenesReunited and I think these are their trees. They've been incredibly helpful.
Thanks fro posting, though. Hopefully this thread will be helpful to anyone else researching the Thomas Fawcett/Ann Stone/Matthew Branton love triangle!