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Title: samuel king
Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 17:51 BST (UK)
Wondering if anyone can help? Ive been trying to find birth / death records for samuel king. He was the second husband of alice maud Norman and married 1919 bury st edmunds, had 2 children alice maud king 1920 and mary a king 1921 both bury st edmunds / safron walden.
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 18:46 BST (UK)
Hi

There are a lot of Samuel King's so we need some more info please.

What age was he on the 1919 marriage cert

What was his fathers name and occupation

What was Samuel's occupation

Is he shown as a bachelor or a widower
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 19:06 BST (UK)
Havent yet ordered a marriage certificate,
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 19:11 BST (UK)
When and where was Alice Maude born?

When and where did she die?

May be able to get some info using her details
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 19:16 BST (UK)
Records on ancestry say bury st edmunds born 1822
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 19:19 BST (UK)
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Records on ancestry say bury st edmunds born 1822

A bit old to have married in 1919  ;D
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 19:19 BST (UK)
Died 1959 bury st edmunds
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Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 19:21 BST (UK)
Sorry 1882, pc broke using phone
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Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 19:30 BST (UK)
As you have posted on the Essex board - it was assumed both Alice and Samuel died in Essex.

As Alice died in Suffolk - it's more likely that's where Samuel died.

There is a Samuel King death in 1943 in Bury St Edmunds - aged 60 so born 1883 on freebmd
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 19:34 BST (UK)
To find his birth and parentage etc - you will have to buy a copy of the 1919 marriage cert to get his fathers details

freebmd has a birth reg in Bury St Edmunds in the December qtr 1882
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 19:40 BST (UK)
Aaah ok thanks very much for your help :)
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 19:49 BST (UK)
Keep this post open and when you get the marriage cert - post Samuel's details and we will see if we can come up with anything for him
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Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 20:33 BST (UK)
Okey dokey. Have to get my laptop. Replaced first. Not same on a phone. Assumed cos rest hubbys family from essex bury st ed was in essex, ooops.
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 22:27 BST (UK)
If his father turns out to be George occupation bricklayer - then follow this trail ;D

Marriages December qtr 1875 
Mary Ann  Bantock  Bury St Edmunds  4a 1081   
George King


1881 census for Bury St Edmunds – wife & children all b Bury St E

George King 30 b Thetford - bricklayer
Mary A 30
Willie  7
Maria  5
George   3
Eliza 8mths
Maria Bantock 39  b Ixworth boarder unmarried
Matilda Catton 52 boarder - widow
RG11 Piece 1842 Folio 95 Page 14

Marriages September qtr 1883 

Maria Bantock married Samuel Tuffin  Bury St Edmunds  4a 911   

1891 census for Bury St E – children both b there
Maria Tuffin 48 married b Ixworth
Eliza King 10 niece
Samuel King 8 nephew
RG12 Piece 1450 Folio 75 Page 6

and living next door are George & Mary Ann King with the rest of the family plus one year old daughter Edith

George occupation is now labourer
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Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 25 August 13 22:55 BST (UK)
In 1901 Samuel is with parents George and Mary A and 2 additional siblings.

Frederick P aged 3 and Sophia 2mths

George is a bricklayers labourer

In 1902 - his sister Eliza married George Bull and in 1911 his sister Edith married Henry Collins

(And if his father isn't George - I'm going to kick myself for doing all this without waiting for the marriage cert details) ::)
Title: Re: samuel king
Post by: janie1974 on Sunday 25 August 13 23:19 BST (UK)
Reckon ya right!