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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: tom-dick on Saturday 24 August 13 03:16 BST (UK)
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i am looking for any information on this family,they lived in dublin but i cant fi d any reference to this family in 1910 census,it is an unusual name,any help welcome,thank you in advance,tom
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Hi Tom
Do you have any first names, ages etc etc which may help?
Cheers
AMBLY
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hi ambly,there was sophia b 1880,william edward b 1882,alfred b1884,sarah jane b 1885, john b 1886,thomas henry b 1891,elizabeth jane b 1894,parents were alfred and sarah married 1878 in dublin,thank you,tom
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I assume you found their entry in the 1901 census?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003733217/
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Marriage of Alfred Wolstencroft & Sarah Jane Leech-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a6ed550557455
Baptisms-
Sophia (1880) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/17d7310121024
William Edward (1882) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/90e0e40121114
Alfred (1884) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/50755b0121178
Sarah Jane (1885) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/375b4c0121241
John (1886) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/3d727b0121294
Thomas Henry (1891) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/01fcc20121506
Elizabeth Jane (1894) http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/0e6bfc0121656
Still checking 1911 census and a few other records...
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There's an Alfred J. Wolstencroft born 1912 Dublin South which makes me suspect the some of the family were still in Dublin in 1911- most likely that surname was been transcribed or we need one of the 'missing' bits of census.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRVS-W5S
1. Sophie (1880-1889) death- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FT4B-5WY
2. William Edward (1882-aft.1901)
3. Alfred (1884-1892) death- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTCG-522
4. Sarah Jane (1885)
5. John (1886) ? death (1944)- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTLK-QQM
6. Thomas Henry (1891-1896) death- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FT8K-12Q
7. Elizabeth Jane (1 Feb.1894) marriage (1936)- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYVN-KYW
Added- Alfred Wolstencroft born c1850 Middleton, Lancs., England, son of John & Sophia (1871- brass finisher)
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According to an online family tree-
Alfred born 14 Feb 1884 at 4 Brunswick Villa Off Shaw Street Dublin
Sarah Jane born 10 Dec 1885 at 18 Shaw Street Dublin
John born 25 Nov 1886 at 6 Poolbeg St. Dublin Ireland & died Jan./Mar.1944 in Baltinglass Co.Wicklow, married Mary Chapman (or Kirwan)
Thomas Henry born 17 July 1891 at Shaws Cottages Dublin
Same tree shows Alfred died 1917 (!) but think they've merged 2 different Alfreds or gotten very muddled- says Alfred born 1859 with parents John & Agnes AND was in England in 1881 and had 2 children born England 1882 and 1893.
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1939 Register of electors at 35 Anner rd,Kilmainham.
John Wolstencroft and Mary
Elizabeth,Mary Jnr,Rhoda.
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thank you aghadowey,dathai and ambly,for your help,it does seem they were still around,it all helps,the 1939 register is interesting,thank you again,tom
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Elizabeth Wolstencroft age 7 1901 census
Lillie Walstencroft age 17 domestic servant c o i born dublin at 1 Tullow Beg, Carlow 1911 census.
name spelt wrong on index but Wolstencroft on census return form.
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something does'nt seem to add up here,
marriage 1913 Lily Wolstencroft Jan March vol 2 page 504.Dublin South.
marriage 1936 Elizabeth Jane Wolstencroft, July Sep vol 2 page 459 Dublin South.
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thanks dathai for your help,i would think the elizabeth in the 1901 census is the same as in the 1913 marriage,i will keep looking,thanh you for your help,tom
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something does'nt seem to add up here,
marriage 1913 Lily Wolstencroft Jan March vol 2 page 504.Dublin South.
marriage 1936 Elizabeth Jane Wolstencroft, July Sep vol 2 page 459 Dublin South.
On the contrary- I think they could both be for the same person!
Elizabeth Jane Wolstencroft is listed for the 1936 marriage. There should be 4 brides and 4 grooms on the page (unless it's the end of register or there's a crossed out entry) BUT on this page there are FIVE female names and four male names. Two of the females are called Elizabeth Jane- one with the surname Wolstencroft and one Dowling.
So, it's possible that Elizabeth Jane married as Lily (a common nickname for Elizabeth) in 1913 to ? Dowling and then in 1936 as widowed/divorced Elizaneth Jane (Wolstencroft) Dowling.
Added- possibly Louis Dowling (marriage Jan./Mar.1913 Dublin South vol.2 page 507)- think Lily's entry has been mis-read and should also be p.507
More added- possible death: Louis Dowling (age 33) Oct./Dec.1918 Dublin North
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having checked to see if i made an error with the page number in 1913 and searching under Lily Wolstencroft, i found that this marriage came up as well.
Lily Wolshencroft.
Apr Jun 1913 Dublin South.
vol 2 page 583.
Registry and Church marriage ?
Edit Louis Dowling also appears with second marrriage 1913.
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Probable husband for Lily ?
Louis Dowling age 8 1901 census 91 Mount St Lr son of Joseph and Emily ,Victualers.
LouSIS Dowling age 17 1911 census 96 Circular Rd South a Dentist.
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thank you all for your help,i will order the certificate and let you if its the same elizabeth,it does seem to be the same one,thank you for your time,tom
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My great grandfather was William Wolstencroft later changed to Croft. He was the son of Alfred and Sarah Wolstencroft who lived in Shaw street Dublin. Is there anything I can help you with?
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Civil birth record of your great grandfather William, 1882 for reference.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02772/2017509.pdf
KG
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Hi there thanks for that bit of information really appreciate That. :)
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This son, George, of Alfred & Sarah not mentioned yet.
#497, 1888
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02497/1926182.pdf
KG
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Thanks I would really like to find William wolstecroft wedding cert. He married a lady called Elizabeth think her maidan name was brien or o brien. They dropped the wolsten part and were latter just called croft.
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Have a look at #92. He calls himself William Croft and his father is named as Alfred Croft (an engineer).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10056/5657202.pdf
KG
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Trinity_Ward/Mark_Street/90500/
brother John
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Trinity_Ward/Mark_Street/90488/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09983/5630597.pdf
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birth's
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nh0/
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https://buried.fingal.ie/search-for-a-burial/
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sorry should have said enter Croft into search box
Elizabeth buried 1927
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1927/04972/4354190.pdf
her son William and his wife Ellen McDonagh in J 135
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1937/08904/5220391.pdf
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George Croft
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1939/08858/5203345.pdf
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Patrick
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1934/08964/5244580.pdf
Elizabeth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1941/08819/5188856.pdf
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Thanks for all that info. I am delighted with that. 1 thing I am trying to find but no luck so far is the marriage cert of William croft and Elizabeth croft. I think her maiden name was o brien or brien.
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Did you not look at Kiltaglassan's reply 21
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Hi there have it now thanks very much! Is there anything on Alfred and Sarah death certs? Thanks very much for all your help family are delighted.
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Alfred 1894 Hospital for incurables
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05978/4699652.pdf
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Fantastic. Thanks again.
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Sarah does not seem to be registered
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Sarah's parents
Father William died 1878
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1878/020503/7195076.pdf
mother Eliza 1902 informant daughter Dora Mc Clean
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05704/4608860.pdf
1901 Eliza
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Trinity/Shaw_Street/1311443/
1901 dtr Dora born Wicklow
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Drumcondra/Drishogue__Millmount_Ave_/1271823/
1911 at Albert Retreat for aged females
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Inn_s_Quay/Eccles_Street_South_/19092/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000056205/
her marriage 1869
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-30-3-5-023
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Thomas Leech and Elinor Smith 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11254/8127250.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Hamilton_Street/1299235/
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Why i could'nt find Thomas Leech in 1911 census
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=633916.0