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Title: Marriage of Charles Jolly (b abt 1833) to Maria Bean in Burgate 1857
Post by: Dorking123 on Tuesday 20 August 13 19:43 BST (UK)

Can anyone help me with the name of Charles Jolly's father please - there are two Charles Jolly born to different parents in Redgrave around this time

The marriage took place on March 27 1857 according to one source

Marriage Reference is Hartismere 1857 Q1 Volume 4a Page 641

Thanks

Gerry

Title: Re: Marriage of Charles Jolly (b abt 1833) to Maria Bean in Burgate 1857
Post by: genechaser on Tuesday 20 August 13 20:12 BST (UK)

Hi

Your best bet is to get the marriage cert for Charles, this will give you his Father's name.

Title: Re: Marriage of Charles Jolly (b abt 1833) to Maria Bean in Burgate 1857
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 21 August 13 00:47 BST (UK)

Freebmd/1861 census shows spouse as Maria Bean

To lookup a marriage in the parish registers - you have to know which church it took place in.

Unless any local transcriptions are available - buying the cert as recommended above is the only solution

Title: Re: Marriage of Charles Jolly (b abt 1833) to Maria Bean in Burgate 1857
Post by: Keziah2 on Wednesday 21 August 13 07:25 BST (UK)

Hi Gerry

As already suggested a copy of the marriage cert is the safest way forward - cheapest source is direct from the GRO - www.gro.gov.uk

You say you have 2 Charles Jolly's born c1833 in Redgrave?  I have found these 2 on familysearch
Charles Jolly Bpt 25 May 1832 Wortham.  Parents James & Harriet
Charles Jolly Bpt 28 Sep 1831 Redgrave or Redgrave cum Botesdale depending on which entry you look at. Parents Edward Jolly (or Jolley) & Mary.  The parish church would have been St Mary's in Redgrave - it was used by residents of both Redgrave and neighbouring Botesdale.

The parishes of Redgrave, Botesdale, Wortham & Burgate are very close to each other.  There are Bean & Jolly burials in all of them & in several other neighbouring parishes (Suffolk Burial Index). Based on the two bpts above I have found the following marriages that do not help at all at this stage but once you know his fathers name they might help with the next step back:

James JOLLY married Harriet HOWLETT 23 Nov 1829, Wortham
Edward JOLLY married Mary WEST 13 Jun 1831, Wortham
(source Suffolk marriage Index)

Did Charles & Maria use any of the above names for their children that is always a good clue.

K

Title: Re: Marriage of Charles Jolly (b abt 1833) to Maria Bean in Burgate 1857
Post by: annes on Friday 30 August 13 13:59 BST (UK)

Taken from Burgate parish register.

Charles Jolly of full age - bachelor - labourer - of Burgate
Maria Bean of full age - spinster - of Burgate
Married 27th March 1857 at Burgate, Suffolk
He made his mark (X) and she signed her name
Fathers: Edward Jolly (labourer) John Bowers (shoemaker)
In presence of: James Nunn (X) and Ellen Bowers

Title: Re: Marriage of Charles Jolly (b abt 1833) to Maria Bean in Burgate 1857
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 30 August 13 16:19 BST (UK)

Maria BANE Christened 15 April 1832, Rickinghah Inferior, Suffolk, England
Mother SOPHIA Bane

1841 Census
Burgate, Suffolk
HO107/1023/5/Burgate
John BEAN, 74, Glover
Ann Bean, 72
Sophia Bean, 30
MARIA Bean, 9   

1851 Maria is visiting the Dades
John Dade was the Son of ROBERT/MARY Dade nee Bean

Death Reg;
SOPHIA Bean, Dec 1842, Hartismere, 13 301

Trish :)