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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Rich Corless on Saturday 17 August 13 19:38 BST (UK)
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Hi
Just wondering if anyone here knew anything about the background of the surname Mackinder?
Some websites have it down as a Scottish surname, but as far as I can tell its pretty unique to Lincolnshire.
Does anyone know what it means?
Cheers
Rich
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I agree it appears to be English in that form http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=MACKINDER&year=1881&altyear=1998&country=GB&type=name
also see http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Mackinder
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Cheers :-)
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Hi
yes in its spelling it originates in Lincolnshire and all other early english Mackinder's seem to originate from the Lincolnshire family (descending to be precise from Thomas Mackinder, who was a member of the clergy and can later be found near Canterbury). If you narrow all the Mackinder's down though I have yet to find any predating the early 1540s and here you can narrow them down to just 4 (Hugh of Hough, John of Hougham, William of Aubourn and Thomas), of which 3 (Thomas, Hugh and John) at least were brothers. I do have a feeling, that all 4 were related and either their recent ancestor i.e. father or grandfather or they themselves relocated from Scotland. Mackinder simply does not appear to be an english name. All Lincolnshire Mackinder's descend from Hugh, John or William.
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Earliest Mackinder I have on my tree is a Jacob Mackinder born in the 1540's in Lincolnshire and he died in Aubourn in 1606.
Though going back that far would they have likely been Scottish? As that would predate the Stuart Monarchy in England. Is it more likely that its just an obscure English regional surname that bears a superficial resemblence to the Scottish Mac's?
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Re: Mackinders of Aubourn. From the original parish registers it is found that an "Unknown" Mackinder (register page damaged) married Elizabeth Cropwell. They had children Jacob (1550-1605) and Elizabeth(1551). Jacob Married Alice (last name unknown) and they had children Artemas (1570-1624) and Robert (C.1575)
Artemas married Jane Chamberlain and they had John, Thomas, William, James, Mary, Dorothie, Roger (1608) and Artemis (1611)
And so the Lincolnshire story goes. It is quite possible that the "Unknown" Mackinder who married Elizabeth was the first of that name in Lincolnshire as all families seem to be tied to the subsequent descendants.
Mackinder is an Anglicization of the Scottish name.
A Dr. D. Savage of the University of New South Wales, Australia stated in a 1987 letter "The reason for a number of Mackinders (and indeed other Highland families) in Lincolnshire is the cattle trade. The cattle droves are known to have stopped in Aubourn to fatten up the herds after their long trip and before being taken on to either Newark or London. Many of the cattle drovers decided to settle permanently in the region." Indeed an article in the Lincolnshire Chronicle of 9.4.1910 details the existence of an important drove route through the heart of the village of Aubourn. Sir Walter Scott in his story of The Two Drovers details a trip from Lochaber to Lincolnshire. As to the surname itself, it is indeed ancient in various spellings but various scholars cannot agree to its origin or to which clan it is a sub-sept. Deor or Deoir (Deoradh = a pilgrim) is the equivalent of the English 'Palmer 'which also signifies 'a pilgrim'
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That is amazing. Yes I did think they were cattle drovers too, especially since the early Aubourn Mackinders became farmers.
Where did you find the parish register? I would love to find it. I have tried Lincs to the past and cannot find a Register for Aubourn that goes that far back and only 3 BTS records before1588. It is though a few years ago since I last researched this branch. I have also tried wills and inventories. I was able to find a William Mackinder in Aubourn in a record dated 1541 (the inventory of Thomas Chamberlayn of Aubourn). Probably the same William Mackant‘r of Aubourn recently deceased left an inventory dated 1555-6 (28.11). Also the BTS records show Artemas Macant‘r baptism in 1562/3 with no mention of who his parents were. A Robert Macanter was incidentally church warden that year. Robert died in 1566. I could also find a Thomas Mackinder in records for Aubourn, who also appears to have been an adult around Artemas’s birth and still appeared in records in the 1570s.
I would love to know more. I do believe they tie in with the Mackinders of Hougham/Hough somehow, but have yet to understand how
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Hi:
Researching Mackinders involved travelling to England and many hours of sitting at Lincoln Archives for some of the results. Perhaps the early registers are no longer open to the public?? Also, very fortunate to have contact with two people (now deceased) who had researched for many years on my surname. Alice Mackinder volunteered at the Lincoln Archives and carried out many years of research. When she passed, her estate was left to Woolthorpe Manor to further their educational goals. Charles Mackinder (Edinburgh) had the information on the Scottish connections. I also have a copy of a letter from Sir Halford Mackinder exploring his knowledge of the surname. The archives provided copies of wills and inventories, the wills confirming family lines. I just recently decided to pick up this research again as there seems to be more info online now. The cattle droving for the Aubourn area came from the West Highlands and the Loch Awe area and, although the records before 1707 are scant I don't think the drove routes changed that much. Among the wills, the earliest I have is for Artemas Oct. 3, 1624. Interesting that you have a bapt for an Artemas Macant'r in 1562/63 that I shall note
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The Will of Artemas Makender.
In the name of God Amen. The third day of October 1624. I Artemas Makender of Maber in the Parish of Aubourn in the County of Lincoln, labourer, being sick in body but of good and perfect remembrance thanks be to God do make and ordain this my last Will and testament in manner and form following.
First I bequeath my soul unto the hands of my Lord God and creator and my body I commit to the earth to be buried in the Churchyard of Aubourn. Item. I give to my son Thomas Makender a red fawn and 1 heifer. Item. I give unto my son Roger Makender a heifer and a sheep dog. Item. I give unto my son James Makender a branded heifer. Item. I give unto my daughter Marie Makender and my daughter Dorothie Makender, eo either of them a yearling heifer and 10 shillings apiece in money to be paid within six months of my decease. Item. I give unto my said two daughters half my household goods unto my wife, and if my wife do marry then they shall have their portion given unto them or at the day of either of their marriages whichever shall first happen and if either of them do die before the day of their marriage that then her part shall be given to the other. Item. I give unto my son William Makender and to his son Robert Makender two yearling calves and one goat. Item. I give unto my son William my best cloak, my axe and my furbill and a leather doublet. Item. I give unto my son James my best leather doublet. I give unto my son Roger my best Jerkin and my old cloak and my best pair of britches. I give unto my son John Makender a piece (pence?) in full satisfaction of his childs portion. Item. I give unto Wilkinson a piece. Item. I give unto Edward Gibson and Robert Auxton a piece. All the residue of my goods unbequeathed I give unto Elizabeth my wife and she shall pay my debts and funeral expenses and I do make my said wife my full and sole executrix of this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand
Artemas Makender (his mark). Witnessed: Edward Gibson, Robert R.
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I was first alerted to having Scottish drovers as ancestors in a letter in 1986 from some Lincolnshire genealogists. It rang true because my grandparents had owned a butcher's shop in Skegness, Lincolnshire, in the first half of the 1900's. Also, according to the 1861 Census, my great, great grandfather, Wingate Mackinder, was a "Cattle Dealer" in Hundleby, Lincolnshire. However, the letter claimed that two Scottish droving brothers had settled in Lincolnshire in the 1700's. This is proved wrong by Artemas being born in Lincolnshire in 1575 and his father Jacob in 1550(?). It was delightful to see Artemas' Will, and also to know that he owned cattle.
Artemas is of special significance to me in being the link between Sir Halford Mackinder's branch of the family (through Artemas' son William) and mine (through Artemas' son James). I even have a grandson named after him!
My father, John Mackinder, grew up in Lincolnshire and was a Hurricane pilot in WW2. His WW2 memoirs are freely available at http://www.shades-of-blue-and-khaki.co.uk. Unfortunately the website is currently in its 2004 format, so is somewhat clunky. Each chapter can be downloaded individually to reveal the full text and photographs.
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My local archive is Lincoln and I have spent many years searching for original Mackinder records there.
I have a copy of Artemas Makender’s (of Marber (Marlborough) in the parish of Aubourn) will as well and there is a surviving inventory showing the contents of his house too which can be viewed for free online on Lincs to the past. His property was worth £44 18s and 4d. Drawn up by Richard Burrow, Robert Ruxton, Isaac Beverley and William Chamberlane
Inventory - Makender Artemas (1623-1624) IV/128/317
The earliest surviving parish register for Aubourn parish held at Lincoln archives is Aubourn par/1/1, which starts in 1749. so unless a very early 16th century Register for this parish exists at another archive or in private hands there will only be surviving Bishops Transcripts for Aubourn before 1749! These are held at Lincoln Archives and I have viewed these and have copies. There are only 3 surviving BTS records however for Aubourn before 1588 (1562/3, 1565/6 and 1569/70) It is indeed rare to find surviving parish registers for small Lincolnshire parishes going back to the mid 1550s, most did not survive the damp conditions they were kept in, plus the mice etc. Of course as said anything could be in private hands! On 27.6.1823 the Stanford Mercury published a search for some Spilsby solicitors searching for the marriage record of John and Ann Mackinder of Reepham, clearly many have researched the Mackinders before us and records could have gone into private hands!
The BTS record for Aubourn for 1562/3 records Artemas‘s baptism as:‘ Artemas Macant‘r was christened ye XX day of May.’ No parent was recorded with this entry! Unless a surviving parish register can be found though it is impossible to prove whether this is the exact baptism for our Artemas since infants frequently died and later born siblings took on their name.
Jacob Makender husbandman of Haddints (Haddington) in the parish of Aubourn indeed died in 1606 and his will is also held at Lincoln archives (reference Nr: LCC Wills 1606/260) as well as his inventory (INV/10/404). I have a copy of this will dated 29.5.1606 and it does not conclusively show any evidence at all that Artemas or Robert were his sons. Both men were mentioned in the will, but quite far down the list and with no explanation of relationship to Jacob, both getting 10s each, the same amount as most of Jacobs siblings got, but less than Jacob’s nephew and niece!. It is therefore possible that they were his sons, but strange they were listed after most other relatives and without the reference ‘son’! Jacob lists his wife Alice, but doesn’t refer to anybody as his child in his will. He may therefore have died childless! He also mentioned a large number of his siblings/siblings in law as well as his mother Elizabeth Gresswell who was still alive in 1606! There is no record to suggest when Jacob was born (that I have ever seen myself, unless a parish register is found). This and the fact his mother and many siblings were still alive makes me think he was more likely a young or middle aged man when he died, therefore too young to be Artemas’s father). Artemas after all was probably 43/44 years old himself in 1606! Jacob’s mother’s Gresswell surname suggests clearly that Jacobs Mackinder father was dead. Artemas may have therefore been Jacob’s brother or cousin as well. Jacob listed the following ‘siblings’ (including in laws) the term was used quite widely so of course may include his wife’s siblings, step siblings etc: Isabel Ruxton (sister) and Robert Ruxton (brother in law) and their children James and Elizabeth Ruxton; William Gresswell (‘my brother’), Christopher Goodwine (‘my brother’), Elizabeth Wright (‘my sister’), John Brown (‘my brother in law and overseer of will’) Two other people were recorded without mention of their relationship to Jacob: Anthony Hewing and Elizabeth Brand and her sister, who shared 8d between the two of them.
Jacob’s step father William Gresswell (husband of Elizabeth) died in 1603 (buried 6.3 according to BTS record).
Note also that a Robert Ruxton helped draw up Artemas’s inventory in 1624, which could have been the brother in law mentioned 18 years earlier by Jacob!
Robert Makender was certainly an adult by 1606 since he is one of the men who drew up Jacob’s inventory
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In the absence of a parish register (and lack of early BTS records) we can therefore only use whatever other records have survived to understand who Artemas’s ancestors were.
1. The 3 BTS records previously mentioned (the only ones surviving before 1587/8 for Aubourn) reveal further Mackinder evidence. In 1562/3 there were two Mackinder baptisms without a father being recorded: Artemas (20.5) and Alice Macant’r (21.2) these clearly both had different mothers and therefore also most likely different fathers! So two adult Mackinder males were probably fathering children in Aubourn in 1562/3 but their names are not certain. A Robert Macant’r though was church warden that year and thus probably father of one of these two children!
2. The BTS record for Aubourn 1565/6 shows: Robert Macat’r was buried XXV April. So probably the previously mentioned church warden? The BTS record for 1569/70 doesn’t record any Mackinder
3. Robert Mackinder was also one of the men who drew up the inventory for Thomas Lansdall of Aubourn on 23.1.1561
4. Thomas Macanter is recorded as a witness in the will of Jenner Tubbe of Aubourn on 20.10.1569 (LCC wills 1569/i/38). This gives us a second name of an adult male Mackinder in Aubourn in the 1560s. Thomas Makynder also appears as one of the men drawing up the following inventories in Aubourn: William Vesse (1574) and Nicholas Bennett (1569/70, vicar of Aubourn),
5. So both Robert and Thomas Mackinder could have been Artemas’s fathers. The BTS records and early Mackinder wills for Aubourn though show that in the 1590-1620 region there were several adult male Mackinders in Aubourn fathering or able to father children: Artemas and Robert (likely brothers since they were named in Jacob Mackinders will together in 1606) and John and Anthony who were definitively brothers (see John’s will dated 1624) and seem to have been younger than Artemas and Robert, judging by when they had children. Jacob as previously mentioned may have been the brother of Artemas and Robert.
6. We can find evidence of one earlier Mackinder generation in inventories and wills for Aubourn! William Mackinder was certainly alive and an adult in Aubourn on 8.4.1541 when he was one of the men drawing up the inventory for Thomas Chamberlayn of Auburn (INV/10/187) original record can be viewed on the Lincs to the past website! William also was a witness on 22.7.1546 to the will of Robert Tubbe of Auburn (LCC wills 1545-6 i/56). William Mackinder died in 1555-6 and his original inventory can also be viewed on Lincs to the past! (INV/28/105) inventory Mackant’r William. Dated 28.11. Sadly I haven’t found a matching will yet for this inventory. I do though recon that William was the father of both Robert and Thomas and thus grandfather of Artemas.
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Wow! Thanks so very much wildwitch for sharing your extensive & painstaking research. It seems each piece of the jigsaw adds more intrigue without ever quite closing the circle! I will need to pour through it many times more, together with the conclusions of Machis, before I get close to understanding these early relationships.
Nine years ago, when I was researching the family tree for my late father, I relied for my 16th & 17th century data on a tree placed on an ancestry website by a Robin Beard, who I was never able to make contact with. I was unable to substantiate any of his data, and much now seems inaccurate. Robin had Artemas as 1575-1642, which, if I understand correctly, should be 1562-1624. He had Artemas' father as Jacob (1550-1606), which again seems false. In addition to the sons & daughters named in Artemas' Will, Robin also has recorded Artemas having an eldest son, John (b1591), who had three children, Elizabeth (b1611), Francis (b1611) and Thomas (b1614). Is this correct?
Does anyone know about the Mackinder clocksmiths of Spilsby, Lincolnshire? I have recently acquired a grandfather clock supposedly made by a William Mackinder in the 1840s, which has "Mackinder Spilsby" on the clock face. Initial searches suggest there was a family of three clocksmith Mackinders in Spilsby named Thomas, Townson and William. Hence I am guessing they could be Townson (1777-1836), his son William (b1805) and possibly Townson's uncle Thomas (1723-1779)?
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William Mackinder the clockmaker was the son of Townson Mackinder (1777-1836). Townson in turn was the son of Charles Mackinder (Born 1728 in Langton by Partney). Charles in turn was the son of John Mackinder (1690-1771) and Ann. John and Ann are my direct ancestors and I descend from their son James (1730-98) who was a yeoman in Spilsby.
This John Mackinder (1690-1771) was the great-Great grandson of our Artemas. In other words these Spilsby Mackinders were descendants of the Aubourn Mackinders through Artemas.
John Mackinder was born in Washingborough in 1690 and moved to Langton by Partney (just a stones throw from Spilsby). He was the clerk for Burrell Massingberd of South Ormsby manor (the Manor House still exists) and manorial records (cashbook) in John‘s hand writing have survived at Lincoln archives. John earned £20/annum from this work. His wife Ann initially stayed at Reepham near Lincoln, where John had inherited lands and tenements from his father in 1719. Ann must though have followed John to the Langton area by 1726, since their daughter Dinah was baptised that year at South Ormsby and they stayed there.
Now back to Artemas and Aubourn. He did indeed have a son named John - we know this from Artemas’s will. He was in fact quite interesting. There was a John Macander baptised at Aubourn on 29.8.1591, but the father’s name was not recorded. You can find this baptism in the original Bishops Transcripts (BTS) held at Lincoln archives. I cannot find any other potential baptism for a son of Artemas named John, but of course his will states he had a son by that name. Artemas married his first wife Jane Chamberlain in June 1590, so could absolutely have had a son named John in 1591. This though would have made John his first born child. There is though something odd about John mentioned in Artemas‘s will. John would have been 33 years old when this will was written providing we have the correct baptism! The entry reads: ‘I give unto my sonne John Makender Xiid in full satisfaction of his Childe person.’ This could mean that John was a child, but then where is his baptism? Sometimes indeed parish records are incomplete, but then there would also be a burial missing for the John born in 1591. Or maybe it could mean that John was ‘child like’ in behaviour for example had learning disabilities or he was not deemed sensible, maybe had mental health problems or simply made decisions his father did not agree with. I have an interesting 17th century court case in a completely different branch of my family, where my female ancestor inherited freehold property because her brother (the only son) was not deemed sensible in view of his ‘lunacy’ the poor guy allegedly developed mental health problems after some girl broke his heart (so the court records say). We do have to remember that the 17th century was a very different place. I have at any rate not found what happened to Artemas’s son John after 1624.
There was though another John Mackinder in Aubourn at the time, a yeoman farmer, who died in 1625/6 (buried 27.5.1625/6 in Aubourn). This will will clarify things for you. It is this John who had his children Elizabeth and Frances baptised in April 1611 and Thomas in 1614. I mentioned this John previously, he was the brother of Anthony Mackinder. John’s original will can be obtained from Lincoln Archives order code: LCC Wills 1624-5/417 and I have a copy. The will dated 24.5.1625 even has his own signature showing he could sign his name. This will mentions all of his surviving children and shows that he was born before 1591! His eldest son was William (born 1599 at South Hykeham died 1667, left a will), next son John born in 1603/4 in Aubourn (died 1665, left a will), Thomas (1614-1671 Tailor in Aubourn, left a will and inventory), Mary (eldest daughter according to will, born 1605/6 Aubourn), Frances (youngest daughter according to will). Elizabeth wasn’t mentioned in the will since she died in infancy in 1611/2 (buried 23.2.).
Thomas Makender’s inventory can be viewed online on the Lincs to the Past website reference: INV/173/34. The same website also has original images for the Aubourn inventories of John Makender (1624-5) (INV/129/408), Artemas Makender (1623-1624) (INV/128/317), Jacob Makender (1605-1606) (INV/101/404) and Anthony Makender (2 May 1639) the brother of John who died in 1625 (INV/149/54)
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There is though something odd about John mentioned in Artemas‘s will. John would have been 33 years old when this will was written providing we have the correct baptism! The entry reads: ‘I give unto my sonne John Makender Xiid in full satisfaction of his Childe person.’ This could mean that John was a child, but then where is his baptism? Sometimes indeed parish records are incomplete, but then there would also be a burial missing for the John born in 1591. Or maybe it could mean that John was ‘child like’ in behaviour for example had learning disabilities or he was not deemed sensible, maybe had mental health problems or simply made decisions his father did not agree with.
I haven't seen the will, but from the context, it seems to me that the phrase is most likely to be "in full satisfaction of his Childe portion" (possibly spelled 'porcion', or 'porcon' with a contraction mark). This refers to the amount or proportion which the offspring of the deceased were entitled to inherit, and doesn't in itself imply anything about John's age or mental capacity.
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Thanks Wildwitch for the information on William Mackinder, my clockmaker. It makes the clock even more precious to me, now I know how closely related I am to its maker. I am descended from Charles' (William's grandfather) and James' younger brother Jonathan (1735-1825). It seems William had three daughters and no sons, so the clockmaking business must have died with him, although I have no date for his death.
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Thought this might be interesting to some. Definitely shows how family history research has evolved.
Sir Halford wrote regarding an inquiry in 1941 by a young lad, Charles Mackinder.
In reply to your letter of 22nd July, here are a few statements for which I can vouch. I was the son of Draper Mackinder III who was the son of Draper Mackinder !!, who was the son of Draper Mackinder !, whose wife was Elinor Draper. The said John and Elinor Mackinder had five children of whom the eldest was Elizabeth and she is in the register of Rowston Church, Lincolnshire, as having been born on 14th Sept. 1740 - that is the earliest date I possess. My father (1818-1912) left among his papers a short note dictated by his father (Draper Mackinder !! above) to the effect that John M. above was one of two Scots brothers who went to England and each took up 1,000 acres of newly enclosed land in Lincolnshire, and that Elinor Drpaer was the daughter of an English farmer at Rowston.
The descendants of these two brothers became a numerous stock of the name Mackinder in the county of Lincolnshire and overflowed into Leicestershire, Rutland and Yorkshire. So far as I know my father was the first of the name to be connected with the ancestral Scotland. He studied medicine at Anderson's College and the Royal Infirmary in Glasgow, graduated as M.D. at St. Andrews and when he died was one of the three senior Fellows of the ROyal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh. But he practiced his profession at Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.
One day while I was M.P. for Camlachie I walked away from a meeting with the Duke of Argyll, Princess Louise's husband, and suddenly, apropos of nothing he turned to me and said, "I am sure your name in MAC-AN-DEOIR." I can hear him now tolling those three vowels in that order -EOI - round his tongue. I believe he was a Celtic scholar.
Around the same time I received a letter dated 3rd Feb. 1911 from a Celtic scholar resident in Manchester who was unknown to me. His name was A. Macarthur Loft. He said in so many words that my name was a corruption of the Gaelic "Mack-an-Deoir" or Macindeor. He added in brackets (Deoradh=pilgrim). If that be so then Deor or Deoir is the equivalent of the English Palmer which also signifies a pilgrim. He finished by telling me that the Macindeors are a branch of the MacNabs of Glendochart at the head of Loch Tay. You will probably know that the last MacNab of MacNab and some hundreds of his clanspeople migrated to Canada in 1821 having got into financial trouble.
Here is all I know on the subject. I was too busy with practical affairs to follow up those clues and now I am too old to seek new evidence. But if your researches lead to definite facts indisputably established I should be much interested. My kind regards to an old constituent.
(Sir) H.J. Mackinder
PS There are now Mackinders, migrants from England in USA New Zealand, Australia and I believe, Canada.
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Thanks, Machis, for sharing this historic document. It explains the letter I received in 1986, unsolicited and purely on the basis of my surname. That letter referred to two Scottish brothers who each purchased 1000 acres of land in Lincolnshire in the 1700s - clearly this is straight from Sir Halford. Unfortunately the note in his Sir Halford's father's papers must have omitted at least four generations prior to John II & Elinor: ie John I (b 1673?), Joseph(b1621?), William(b1595?) and Artemas(b1575), who were all born in Lincolnshire.
The "Mack-an-Deoir" derivation of our surname is replicated in a "handwritten history" of the surname that I purchased in 1995. Do we think this is based purely the supposition of the Duke of Argyll? My handwritten history claims there are documents referring to a Colin Macindoyr in Fife c.1250. I also note the in the Lincolnshire Archives there is a book "Long Road from Loch Awe. A Mackinder Family History". Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy, and does it contain more substantial data on the Scottish connection?
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I also note the in the Lincolnshire Archives there is a book "Long Road from Loch Awe. A Mackinder Family History". Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy, and does it contain more substantial data on the Scottish connection?
You can find a copy to read or download at FamilySearch:
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/189847-long-road-from-loch-awe-a-mackinder-family-history?offset=1
I haven't read it myself, so can't answer as to its contents.
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Hi: Re: Book Long Road from Loch Awe. It was written by Jan Mackinder - a completion of her husband Phillip Mackinder's endeavour after his demise. She lives in Australia.
Re: Scottish connection. I have many instances of documents as you noted going back to the 1200's
I am going to dig out all the original research over the next weeks and go back over everything.
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Hey! BaldGenie. If Wingate of Hundleby is your 3x great grandfather he is my 3x as well and we are related!!
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CORRECTION. Book Long Road from Loch Awe was written by Jan Gregory! I have e-mailed her to see if there are any copies available and will post here.
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Heads up that LOST COUSINS is free until Twelfth Night. If you have not heard of this web site it is run by Peter Calver and based on the entry of Census data. The subscription is only 12 pound 50 per year. If you enter a census reference with your relatives and someone else enters the same reference the site automatically 'matches' you and sends you an e-mail and you can contact through the site. So until Twelfth night enter your data and see how many 'cousins' turn up. I have found more than several through Lost Cousins.
Good Luck
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CORRECTION. Book Long Road from Loch Awe was written by Jan Gregory! I have e-mailed her to see if there are any copies available and will post here.
Did you see my Reply #18 above, where I said it was available online?
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The book "Long Road from Loch Awe" is indeed available to view or download on the link provided at #18, provided you are a member of FamilySearch. Many thanks arthurk, as the book contains much fascinating information.
The book quotes Scottish genealogists and historians to support the author's belief that there were Mackinders in the Loch Awe area in the 15th century. There seems little reason to doubt this, although no hard data is provided.
The book also states that Jacob (died 14 Feb 1606), married Alice in Aubourn, Lincs, and was the father of Artemas (1570-1624) and Robert (born 1575). The book's statement that Artemas and Robert were Jacob's sons seems to come from Jacob's Will. However, given wildwitch's reading of Jacob's Will (#10), perhaps this is open to significant doubt?
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I have emailed Lincoln archives to see whether the elusive 16th century parish register for Aubourn is in their possession somewhere, but am yet to hear. All of the parish registers held at Lincoln archives though are allegedly recorded (and mostly scanned) on their Lincs to the Past website and can be found by entering Aubourn par1 into the search bar - https://www.lincstothepast.com/SearchResults.aspx - the earliest I can find on their website is 1749.
I have also not found original parish register images (not transcripts!) for Aubourn on Find my Past before 1749. You can see clearly on Find my past and Family search (unless I am searching wrongly) that there are early BTS transcripts for Aubourn only for the years 1562/3, 1565/6 and 1569/70 and then they continue annually after 1587/8. Parish registers were not kept in England until 1538 and only very few Lincolnshire parishes have surviving parish register books going back this far. Early BTS records are often incomplete and were written on sheets of parchment and submitted by each parish on an annual basis from around 1562 onwards, but many parishes did not start completing these until the 1590s. We are therefore lucky with our Aubourn records! Before 1587 therefore the only transcribed registers are for those 3 years, which would be surprising if there were a surviving parish register book in the public domain for this time period for Aubourn. The BTS for 1569/70 shows no evidence at all of a baptism for any Artemas Mackinder (this register ran from Michaelmas). I have original copies of them all.
The earliest BTS for Aubourn is 1562/3 and shows the two Mackinder baptisms (Artemas and Alice) that have been transcribed on Find my Past and Family Search. All 3 of the early Aubourn BTS records (including 1562/3) ran from Michaelmas to Michaelmas (as the original 1562 record states! 'all the names & surnames of such persons as were married, christened and buried within ye town of Auborn from the feast of St Michael the Archangel which was in the year of our lord god 1562 unto the same feast 1563'). This means that both Alice and Artemas were baptised in 1563 by our current calendar within 3 months of each other. Alice on 21.2. and a few entries later Artemas on 20.5. This means they are unlikely to be full siblings, although neither entry records the name of any parent. Unfortunately none of the marriages and burials have been transcribed for these 3 registers, but the original records in regards to this show that a Robert Macater was church warden in 1562/3 and a Robert Macat'r was buried on 25.4.1565/6. All of these original BTS records can be obtained and probably ordered in digital form from Lincoln archives, although I am not sure to what degree records can currently be ordered due to COVID and thus working regulations.
I have therefore not seen any baptism for Jacob for 1550. As previously mentioned the earliest records for any Mackinder I can find for Aubourn are for a William Mackant's, who died in 1555. The original inventory can be seen here:
https://www.lincstothepast.com/Inventory---Mackant-r--William--1555-1556--------/1384676.record?pt=S
I first seem to find this William Mackinder as one of the men who drew up Thomas Chamberlayn's inventory in Aubourn on 8.5.1541:
https://www.lincstothepast.com/Inventory---Chamberlayn--Thomas--8-May-1541--------/1076112.record?pt=S
As previously mentioned by the 1560s and 1570s there appear to have been two adult Mackinder men in Aubourn: Robert, who probably died in 1565/6 and Thomas (who may have died in 1608). There are though two other BTS entries of interest for Aubourn: 1589/90 Jane Macander was buried 27th July. Sibell Makender widow was buried the 17th April 1595. Sibell was clearly somebody's widow and could also even potentially have been Artemas's mother, but we will probably never know.
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I have been to Lincoln archives many times and do have original copies of all the early Mackinder wills. Unfortunately I cannot publish these copies without permission of the relevant archive, since we all have to sign declarations when taking photographs of original records in England. Digital copies of all of these records though can be obtained from Lincoln Archives and I have included the order codes.
I personally do not feel that there is any definitive evidence to suggest that Artemas Mackinder was the son of Jacob Mackinder (died in 1606), although there is no evidence to say he wasn't either. I have transcribed Jacob's will below as I read it and have also listed the order code for this will (LCC Will = Lincoln Consistory Court Will). The Mackinder book mentioned above also states in regards to Jacob that: 'All his bequests were monetary, so from the will it isn't possible to learn how he lived.' As previously mentioned there is a surviving inventory for Jacob's house, which lists his possessions at time of death. The original record is online: https://www.lincstothepast.com/Inventory---Makender--Jacob--1605-1606--------/1315690.record?pt=S
Transcription of LCC Wills 1606/260 Jacob Makender of Aubourn held at Lincoln Archives:
In the name of God Amen the 29th day of May in ye yeare of our Lord 1606. I Jacob Makender of Haddingts in the pishe of Awburne & Countie of Lincoln husbandman sicke in body but whole in mynd & of good and perfect remembrance (thankes be to god) do make and ordaine this my last Will & Testament in manner & forme following: That is to say first I give & bequeth my soule into the hands of allmightie god my only maker and redeemer and my body to the earth from whence it came. Itm I give to the churche of Awburne ten shillings towards the repare of it. Itm I give to James Ruxton & to Elizabeth Ruxton children of Robt Ruxton my brother inlaw fortie shillings joyntly betwext them. Itm I give to Isbell Ruxton my sister Xs. Itm I give to Willm Gresswell my brother ten shillings. Item I give to Anthony Hewing Vs. Itm I give to Christopher Goodwine my brother ten shillings. Item I give to Elizabeth Wright my sister ten shillings. Itm I give to Elizabeth Gresswell my mother ten shillings. Itm I give to Elizabeth Brand & her sister viiis equally betwext them. Itm I give to Artemas Makender ten shillings. Itm I give to Robt Makender ten shillings. Item I give & bequeth all the rest of my goods unbequethed my Funerall Discharged my debtes & legaces payd, unto Alce Makender my wife making her my whole executrixe of this my last will & Testament. Itm I will & desire John Browne my brother in law to be overseer to see this my last will Discharged & give unto him vs for his paines thesse are witnesses
George Read
Antony Hewing
Willm Gresswell
It may therefore be interesting to look at each of the people mentioned in Jacob's will to get a better picture. This clearly shows that all of his siblings listed appear to have been fairly young people when Jacob died, which would be strange if he was born in 1550 (Artemas was probably in his 40s in 1606), also Jacob's mother (presumably birth mother?) was still alive until 1617/8, which would have made her very old indeed if Jacob had been born in 1550:
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The BTS records for Aubourn show:
James and Elizabeth Ruxton (Jacob's nephew and niece and children of Robert Ruxton) were baptised in Aubourn in 1603/4 and 1605/6. Robert Ruxton married Isabell Goodwin in Aubourn on 24.5.1603/4. He appears to have had a previous wife (Joan/Joanne Read) buried in 1601/2, whom he married in Aubourn in 1593/4. Robert Ruxton was mentioned in Artemas's will. Isabel wife of Robert Ruxton was buried in Jan 1607/8 in Aubourn, her son Roger was baptised only a few days later, so she could have died in childbirth. Robert married Agnes Brown after this (Agnes died 1621/2). Little Elizabeth died in childhood in 1613/4 (buried 10.6). Robert Ruxton was buried on 20.8.1630. The Bassingham tithe book (exact date not clear, but 1614-65, see Lincs to the past) records a Robert Ruxton of Marlborough (Aubourn, where Artemas also lived).
Christopher Wright and Elizabeth Gresswell married in Aubourn on 10.2.1605/6 (=Jacob's sister Elizabeth Wright mentioned in his will).
William Gresswell, husbandman of Aubourn (possibly likely Jacob's step father) was buried in 1602/3, sadly only left an Admon, no will, but did leave an inventory worth around £86. Elizabeth Gresswell (most likely Jacob's mother) was buried at Aubourn on 15.3.1617/8 and I would love to find her will since she apparently left one!
William Gresswell (the brother) appears to have had a stillborn (abortive) child buried in Aubourn in 1608/9. He died at Bassingham in 1630 and left a will: LCC Wills 1630/370. The will mentions his wife Ann, James Ruxton of Marlborough (Aubourn, no relationship type mentioned), William Wright (his nephew), his mother Elizabeth Gresswell's will (which I have not yet found), Elizabeth Wright (again mentioned in relation to Elizabeth Gresswell's will), his nephew the brother of his nephew William Wright whom's Christian name he didn't know, the children of his cousin William Gresswell.
A John Browne had a child in Aubourn in 1599 (Marie). He also appears to have possibly been from Bassingham.
Anthony Hewing (or Herring) had children in Aubourn in 1595/6 (Thomas), 1597 (Jane), 1601 (Mary) and 1610 (John) and 1616 (?name as poorly legible), he was recorded as a labourer in 1610. A William Hewing was buried in Aubourn 11.7.1610/11. I have not yet seen his will, but it is listed as William Hering of Aubourn LCC Wills 1610/407 (listed under Herring). This may help clarify the family connection further? An Anthony Herring married a Mary Snell in Thorpe on the Hill on 1.5.1596.
As to the Goodwin surname (Isabel, Jacob's sister and Christopher his brother). There are 2 wills I haven't seen yet: Jas Goodwine of Awboron LCC Wills 1574/ii/54 and Jas Goodwine of Awbourn LCC Wills 1574/i/185 (likely to be the same person), these may help clarify who Isabel and Christopher Goodwin were or mention Artemas/Jacob?
These people therefore seem to have been closer in age (or younger) to Artemas than to a man born in around 1550, also if Jacob was born in 1550, then his son Artemas cannot have been born in 1563, meaning Jacob was either much older or there was more than one baptism for an Artemas Mackinder (which certainly didn't take place between Sept 1569-Sept 1570). I would therefore not be surprised if Jacob was Artemas's (and Roberts) brother and his mother Elizabeth later married William Gresswell, since this would explain why Jacob's sister Elizabeth Gresswell didn't marry until 1605/6 (whilst of childbearing age since she had at least 2 sons). Jacob's mother may even have had another husband before becoming a Gresswell, since we have the Goodwin's. The will of Jas Goodwin (1574 may therefore be of some real interest and once COVID restrictions improve I will look this one up!)
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I have been able to track down the website of Robin Barry Beard a genealogist whom I relied on extensively for my previous Mackinder family trees (see #12). His is still very active and has posted his family trees (including an extensive one for Mackinder) on his own website http://what-a-family.co.uk. Access is free but you need to register with a username etc.
Robin Beard now shows James(b1546 in Aubourn) and Alice(about 1545) Mackinder as the parents of Alice(b 1562), Artemas(b 1563) and Robert(b 1575) Mackinder. He shows James' father to be another James Mackinder born about 1525. His only source I can see is "extracted probate records for Jacob Makender" but he doesn't include Jacob Mackinder anywhere in the tree.
I will try and contact Robin Beard more directly to understand his sources.
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Greetings: Would just like to remind everyone that during the lockdown the National Archives site is open for free downloads of their online documents (free registration is all that is required). There are several Mackinder wills available plus you could do a search for all your other rellies!
The will of John Macander of Aubourn June 6, 1655 provides some assistance in 'matching people' during the Cromwellian period. I shall leave it to you to download and have fun with it!
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Regarding Thomas Mackinder circa 1520 (?) Have just been reading Lincoln Record Society Volume 53 about the religious after dissolution and pensions. Thomas is mentioned as follows:
1Pensions assigned to former chantry priests: Chantry of St. Peter's Grantham: Thomas Mackander inc. with over 10 marks p.a. granted 6-0-0. Noted from other reading that 5/ was needed for a single man to have sustenance p.a.
4 Ed VI Schedule of pensioners etc. in co. Lincoln on the books of the court of Augmentations. Thomas is still listed at 6-0-0
1552 - Return of commissioners listing pensioners in co. Lincoln. Listed but unpaid
1554 - Queen Mary's enquiry. Thomas Mackander of Grantham formerly chantry priest of the chantry of St. Peter in Granthm with a pension granted, 1 Sep 2 Ed VI. He's not married and has no eccl. preferments.
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Re: William Mackinder of Barkston c. 1664-1748
If this person is one of your ancestors the following should be of great interest. A thesis Available at DurhamE-Theses Online: http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/12108/ - entitled The Social Production of Gentility and Capital in Early Modern England: The Newtons of Lincolnshire. Searching for Mackinder in this thesis brings up multiple examples of his life including letters written by him to Sir Jack Newton in London over a quite extensive period when he was either a Bailiff or Steward as well as a tenant of the Newton family. It also mentions that his father worked for the family as well before 1660.
Cheers
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The British Museum has a picture online (downloadable) of a watch paper for Mackinder - Watch and Clock Maker of Spilsby. The reference is Heal,39.196. Thin pieces of (usually) waxed paper were placed in the back of watches not only as advertising but for use to write the dates on which the watch was repaired/cleaned
It also states the firm is not noted in either of the watch 'encyclopedias' - this is not unusual for what are termed 'provincial' makers.
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Langton - by- Spilsby. For those of you researching Macs in this area please note that 'langley-by-spilsby.org.uk' under Church of St Peter and St Paul and then under Churchyard has an old typescript of headstone inscriptions. While I have noted a few typing errors, it is a good source and starting point to further your research. Cheers.
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More information found on Thomas former Chantry priest of St. Peter Grantham.
www.theclergydatabase.org.uk shows a Thomas Mackander presented to Ashby cum Fenby as Rector on 26/3/1557 due to a vacancy. The living was in the gift of King Philip and Queen Mary. It would appear he stayed in this parish until his death in 1593 when Wm. Taylor, MA was presented 23/3/1593. The registers of Ashby cum Fenby do not survive for this early period but there does seem to be BT's that might show his burial in 1593. I think this scenario is possibly a better one than the Thomas found near Canterbury or the Thomas presented at Depford in 1569. After the dissolution of the chantries in 1547 Thomas probably went to live with his relatives (Aubourn?) The pension he had been granted was not paid due to the insolvency of the Crown during these years. I wonder if he is the Thomas making the vicar of Auborn's will later on? Not inconceivable that he travelled home from his parish for visits and did various scribing duties while there.
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Wow..the joys of family history is that you pick up and run for a while, hit some walls, back off, do other stuff and then come back to your research and suddenly there's new information to help clear things up...I'm in awe of the work you guys have done on the Mackinder tree!!
If I'm following this thread properly, the thinking now is that Artemas Mackinder (1562-1624) is now possibly/probably the BROTHER of Jacob Mackinder (1545-1606) rather than his son (also Robert Mackinder born c.1575) but we're still no closer to working out who the mystery MAckinder was who was married to Elizabeth Cropwell.
Again from the thread, I take it the common agreement is that Elizabeth remarries after the death of her Mackinder husband and that there is a possible will for her out there somewhere!?!
I've emailed the Lincoln archives today to see if they do digital copies of the wills/inventories as traveling to Lincoln myself is a bit unlikely (living in Wales so its not exactly an easy Saturday morning jaunt)
I've also downloaded the John Mackinder will as you guys suggested.
The background on the movement from Scotland seems to be too strong to resist, I suppose the only question remaining (which I fear we'll never know the answer to) who was the first Mackinder to remain permanently in Lincolnshire, is it our mystery "Unknown Mackinder" or someone earlier again.
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Are these Mackinders anything to do with the Mackinders/Mackenders of Lakenheath, Suffolk?
My grandfathers grandmother was a Mackender/Mackinder.
All of the Mackinders/Mackenders of Lakenheath can be traced to a Thomas Mackender/Mackinder who married Anne Roper there in 1752. There also appears to be a John Mackender/Mackinder who married a Hannah Roper sometime in 1750 as the baptise one child in 1751, So its seems as there were perhaps two brothers who entered this village from elsewhere as before the date of 1751 and 1752, there are no Mackenders/Mackinders anywhere in this area.
The family rumour so to say was that they descended from a Scottish prisoner who was sent with the others to drain the fens of Cambridgeshire. A lot of dutch and scottish prisoners were sent to do this after being captured at the battle of dunbar.
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I do not have a direct link to your query. However, this surname seems to have branched south from Scotland (1400's) to Lincolnshire (1500's) and up to London by the 1600/1700's. In looking at different sources, the surname does not appear on the Alien Subsidies of the 1400's, although that is not definitive as records are incomplete. Further research into the (Mac)Donald, Campbell, (Mac)Arthur clans around the Loch Awe area seems to indicate that our ancestors probably came to Lincolnshire after circa 1493 when the Macdonald and MacArthur clans (of whom they were a sept) retreated to Skye and the Isle of Islay in the Inner Hebrides after the Campbells took over their territory (Dukes of Argyll). Thomas Mackinder was a Chantry priest in Grantham before 1547 and may be an original settler or of the first 'English' generation. It is believed the original occupation of this family was cattle droving. Sir Water Scott mentions droving from Lochaber to Lincolnshire and looking at the maps of the Roman roads, etc. it is conceivable that they drove their cattle from the Isles to Lochaber and then through Carlisle (the major entry point in the West) and along the tract of the Roman roads to Torksey/Gainsborough and on to Aubourn where they seem to have first settled. An intriguing question is did the family (or 2 brothers in this story as well) come on their own impetus or to support the folks back home by setting up grazing lands for future droves?
Does the original parish register of the marriages indicate if the brothers were from a different parish than the marriage or give their age?
Anyway, this unusual surname is connected to all the Mackinders in England in the various spellings and they were a prolific tribe
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Bald Genie re: your inquiry about a Colin MacIndoyr of 1250 that reference is found in Black's Surnames of Scotland thus "Coln MacIndoyr was juror on an inquisition on the lands of Inchesturphyn in the thirteenth century (RD., p 222)"
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Dear Bald Genie
Does anyone know about the Mackinder clocksmiths of Spilsby, Lincolnshire? I have recently acquired a grandfather clock supposedly made by a William Mackinder in the 1840s, which has "Mackinder Spilsby" on the clock face. Initial searches suggest there was a family of three clocksmith Mackinders in Spilsby named Thomas, Townson and William. Hence I am guessing they could be Townson (1777-1836), his son William (b1805) and possibly Townson's uncle Thomas (1723-1779)?
Thomas 1723-1779 seems to have been a schoolmaster at Spilsby in 1767. This is recorded in the parish register of wife's, Bridget, burial on June 18, 1767.
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Hi,
I've been reading this thread with interest as my line of descent is also through James Mackinder who married Jone Patchette at Canwick in 1624.
Please does anyone know when and where this James died. Thanks.
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Greetings.
James was buried 30 Jun 1671 in Washingborough. Joan was buried 25 March 1683.
Their son Charles (bap 1626 Canwick) is my direct ancestor. The other known six children were bap. Washingborough, where the parson used the Latin Jacobi and Jacobus when he christened their son, James, 1 Aug. 1630.
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Thanks Machis,
I was thinking James may have been buried at Branston in 1664, but his father was another James. The Washingborough burial for Jacob looks right, was there a Will/admin for him in 1671?.
I descend from the same line as you, down through the 1626 Charles, my family were in Lincs until the 1850's when they moved to Sheffield and set up a Steel works business.
Incidentally I have an old fusee pocket watch movement engraved Wm Mackinder Spilsby, though I don't believe he was my direct ancestor.
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Hi Re: James of Branston. He is the son of James and was born in Washingborough 1630. He died intestate in 1664 and his wife, Elizabeth, received administration. I have a copy of the administration documents which states in part 'to be paid to James Makender of Washingborough (ye deceased father) the sum of 3/4/0 being borrowed of him by the deceased before his death'. Evidently his wife, Elizabeth, might have been pregnant and the court withheld money to be paid to such child at age 21 ( I can find no record of this child so far. Might have just been an excuse for the court to take more money on top of the quite steep fees! Interestingly, a Thomas Mackender, acted as Executor and I believe him to be the brother of James Sr. He lived until 1714 and played a part in the life of William Mackinder (son of Charles and second wife, Ann Willowes), who became a Proctor in the Archdeacon's Court, Lincoln - was vilified by Samuel Wesley the Rector of Epworth - and was the principal beneficiary of Thomas' generous will, including the lease of the Adam and Eve tavern, still in existence today. But enough. Have a great day!
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Thanks again Machis for your reply.
I've just returned from Lincoln which is about an hours drive from where I live. Back in the early 1990's I spent some time visiting many of the churches and villages associated with the Mackinder's, taking photos and recording any gravestones I found.
I also spent time in the archives trawling through the registers, it's so much easier now with all the online resources but somehow not quite as much fun !
Good luck with your research.