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Title: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: me2012 on Thursday 15 August 13 17:36 BST (UK)
Have a little trouble at locating information in regards to a Mary Pullin (Pullen)

Mary was believed to have come from London. 
In 1806 - she was charged and tried at Middlesex, and in January 1807 - she was shipped to Australia.   She had a son Hely (b. approx 1795) - who was on the convict ship 'Sydney Cove' with her.    It was stated that the family had lived near Blackfriars area, however I couldn't find any information regarding this.   The convict ship sailed from Falmouth.

Her death certificate gives no information - not even if she had other children in England. 

Although it was stated that her husband was deceased prior to her conviction, and that his name was James, however no evidence can be found - not sure where that information came from.

Any help would be appreciated.  Cheers  -   Jak
Title: Re: PULLEN / PULLIN Mary - London
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 15 August 13 17:39 BST (UK)
Presumably he was born 1795, not 1895?
Title: Re: PULLEN / PULLIN Mary - London
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 15 August 13 17:40 BST (UK)
Hi Jak

Can you clarify the dates please and amend your topic.
(1806/1807/1895)

Thanks

Dawn
Title: Re: PULLEN / PULLIN Mary - London
Post by: me2012 on Thursday 15 August 13 17:42 BST (UK)
ah - yes 1795  -  mistake
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: Graham59 on Saturday 17 August 13 11:53 BST (UK)
I Would be interested in anything on the Pullen family Middlesex, as My Grand Aunt Elizabeth Laura Colling married Ronald George C Pullen, and don't have a lot of information on there family.. Many Thanks.
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 17 August 13 21:21 BST (UK)
Hi

There is a couple, James and Mary Pullen baptising two children at St Ann Blackfriars 1796-1798

firstly: JAMES Pulllen bapt. 16 May 1796 son of James and Mary Pullen.

secondly which transcribed as ELEANOR Pullen bapt. 28 Oct 1798

when looking at the actual parish image it says "ELEAZOR,  SON of James and Mary Pullen",

could this be Hely?

claire

Newspaper reports and trial records give her surname as PULLEN
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: me2012 on Friday 23 August 13 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi Claire.t

Sorry it had taken awhile . . .  I have the death cert of Hely (also recorded as Eli ) - and that
he was born 1802 or there abouts.

Unfortunately his parents weren't listed in his death certificate.  His mother 'Mary' taken young Hely with here when she was transported to Australia in 1807.   The other children were left in England. Her husband  was said to have been dead prior to her sentencing, although this has not yet been confirmed.

That baptisms you stated could well be the right family - as they are from the area Blackfriars.

J,

Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: me2012 on Friday 23 August 13 16:52 BST (UK)
It seems that a few people have been trying to research this particular Pullen line.   
Someone had the following information. . . and couldn't go any further in regards to in info on marriage, etc.

Mary Pullen 1768 - (southern England) married a James Pullen.  Between 1790 and 1903, they had the following children - (some were baptized in London and other in Blackfriars.

1. James - (died in infancy)
2. John
3. Maria
4. James
5. Eleanor
6. Maria
7. Hely (Eli)

It was also believed that Hely's brother John (1792?) was a School-Master with his own academy in Hove? around 1850's.  Apparently as the story goes, John had written to Hely in Australia reconnecting the brothers.   

Jack
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: ..claire.. on Friday 23 August 13 22:43 BST (UK)
Wonder if this could be John in 1851 census, death registered 3rd Qtr. 1856 Brighton Sussex.

Sussex Brighton, Borough Street

John Pullen Head Widowr 59 Schoolmaster bn Somerset Bath
Harriet Dousberg lodger widow 50  bn Herts. Bishop Stortford

Class HO107 Piece 1646 Folio 429 Page 4.

claire
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: me2012 on Saturday 24 August 13 01:51 BST (UK)
Hi Claire
It could be - 'the John Pullen' - it was stated that was living in Brighton (Borough St), where this info came from is unknown.  But he was a headmaster.
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: me2012 on Saturday 24 August 13 02:02 BST (UK)
Claire;
I must say - its a little further more with the Pullen family history, with this information, which
I'm grateful for, as every little bit - puts the puzzle together.   

J
Title: Re: Mary PULLIN (maybe PULLEN) - London
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 24 August 13 02:45 BST (UK)
Hi

Think this is John Pullen in 1841 census

Brighton, Brighthelmstone, Boro' Street

John Pullen 45 private tutor  not bn in county
Elizabeth "  40                      "     "  "     "
Hannah Derman 35               "     "  "     "

Class HO107 Piece 1122 Book 9.

Presuming Elizabeth Pullen is his wife there is a death 4th Qtr 1849 Brighton for her.

claire