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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Ken Cameron on Wednesday 14 August 13 11:50 BST (UK)
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Hi all, Trying to find ancestors that landed from Hercules 26 July1853.
They are:
Murdoch Macdonald (40), and daughters Catherine (6), Christy (4) & Margaret (2). His wife Mary (Cameron), my direct ancestor, died in Queenstown, Ireland on 7 Feb 1853 and their son Donald (1) also died there on 14 Feb 1853.
They all came from North Uist and the Tigharry area. They are described in the passenger list as 'A healthy nice looking family, but very poor'.
Mary's father was Donald Cameron, of Claddach Kirkibost, Lochmaddy, North Uist.
I have traced 1610 ancestors so far, most from N.U. Anyone requiring info from that area please feel free to ask me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated :).
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Hi Ken a warm welcome to the forum.
So Murdoch was a widow with 3 young girls when he arrived in Australia, at Port
Adelaide in South Australia, his wife and baby son died in Ireland prior to the voyage? Have I got this right?
Cheers
Tinam
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http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/hercules1853.shtml
McDONALD Murdoch 40 Tigharry, N. Uist
Mary 25 died 7 Feb 1853
Catherine 6
Christy 4
Margaret 2
Donald inf died 14 Feb 1853
May be your man.
South Australian Register 3 Dec 1853
CRIMINAL JURISDICTION. .
Murdoch McDonald appeared to an information laid under the Masters' and Servants' Act, charged with deserting the service of Mr. Robert Milne, fanner, of the Dry Creek, on the 18th November, being under engagement to serve him for six months from the 24th August
Mr. Walker for the defendant.
Mr. Milne was examined, and produced the agreement signed by the defendant, and stated that he left his service on Friday, the 18th, and had not since returned.
By Mr. Walker — Did not say to the defendant that he might go about his business. By the Court — Defendant served for 12 weeks at £1 per week. Had paid him £6 9s 5d. in cash and rations. Did not now wish him to return.
Donald McDonald stated that the plaintiff in his presence consented to the defendant's leaving his service.
An agreement was produced, by which the complainant arranged to pay one-half of the defendant's wages to the Highland Society towards his passage money. The defendant was fined £5 and costs.
Marriage in South Australia
McDONALD Murdoch 40 years Status not recorded Father Unrecorded
McSWAN Catherine 25 years Status Single Father Unrecorded
2 Aug 1853
Place Manse Wakefield St Adelaide Ade 16/343
Births in Victoria - I would expect there to be more births with the mother being so young. I suggest you purchase the 1871 birth certificate as it will show all the issue both living and deceased to both marriages and confirm whether or not it is your man.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage
Info on Victorian certificates
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
Births in Victoria
McDONALD Donald Ewing
Father Murdoch Mother Catherine MacSWAN
At Werribee 1858 Reg#11166
McDONALD Ann
Father Murdoch Mother Catherine McSWAN
At Carngham 1864 Reg#13776
McDONALD Samuel
Father Murdoch Mother Catherine McSWAN
At Carngham 1871 Reg#1279
Death
McDONALD Samuel
Father Murdoch Mother Catherine MCSWAN
1872 1 years Born Carngham Reg#582
According to the passenger record and marriage born c1813/14.
Death
McDONALD Murdoch
Father Malcolm Mother Marion McARTHUR
1875 60 years Born Inverness Reg#1010
Cando
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Cando, fantastic information, well done!
Tinam
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Ken do you have Murdoch's parents' names? There are a number of Murdoch McDONALD's in Vic so may not be your man.
Need one of the children's birth certs to progress the research, preferably the last birth in 1871.
Cando
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Death - once again age is wrong but the only Catherine McDONALD I can find with a McSWAN/McSWAIN father.
McDONALD Catherine
Father Mcswain Neil Mother Mary
1872 38 years Born Scotland Reg#10766
In case there are others who may wish to help.
Info from Ken by pm. It's best to have all the information on the board. Murdoch's father was Donald Macdonald born approx 1768, Tigharry, North Uist and his mother was Catherine Morrison b. approx. 1771 N.U. and died 1853 N.U. a widow.
This looks like his death however the age is not a match. Info on death certs only as accurate at the knowledge of the informant.
McDONALD Murdoch
Father Donald Mother Kate MORRISON
At Bunguluke 86 years 1888 Reg#12445
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunguluke,_Victoria
According to my resource there is a Murdoch McDONALD buried in the Wycheproof cemetery however the other McDONALD names on the database do not appear to be the same family.
The certificate for Murdoch's death would list all the information about his marriages and children both living and deceased.
Cando
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A little more
Death in Victoria
WARD Catherine
Father Murdoch McDONALD Mother Mary CAMERON
At Stawell 65 years 1913 Reg#3630
Australian Electoral Roll
Victoria 1903, 1909 Grampians/St Arnaud
WARD Catherine Navarre Road, St Arnaud Home duties
WARD William Thomas Navarre Road, St Arnaud Wheelwright
This group have photographs of headstones in the Stawell Cemetery.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~stawgeny/biarri.html
Cando
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Hi Cando
Got the 1871 birth certificate today and it is my Murdoch Macdonald!
I have also contacted the Stawell Biarri Group about Catherine Ward and will use the rest of your golden information to trace the others.
Only correction I would offer is that the name Ewing you suggested should actually be Ewan which is a fairly common Scottish name.
The names and ages of the three girls that were on Hercules ties in exactly with the first three daughter's names and ages on the 1871 birth cert for Samuel. There is no doubt that you found my missing relatives.
Is it possible for me to peruse Australian birth, marriage and death records on line myself as I am trying to find out about other relatives on the Laing side of my ancestors and so far have had no replies to that query. They also started on HMS Hercules but some were transhipped to another vessel during the voyage. They are not on the passenger list of the new vessel 'Olivia'
Thank you very much for your outstanding help and if I can reciprocate with any Scottish searches you require, don't hesitate to let me know.
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Ken endless internet problems today. >:( Lost the post about searching bdm's in Australia. Each state has it's own registry however many of us have our own resources for Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania. Have a browse through the Research and Offers board where each State is listed individually. Easier for me to search the SA and Vic resources on my own discs.
A little more
Australian Electoral Roll
Victoria 1903, 1909 Grampians/St Arnaud
WARD Catherine Navarre Road, St Arnaud Home duties
WARD William Thomas Navarre Road, St Arnaud Wheelwright
Not your Catherine on the electoral roll :-[
I can't find her with her 2nd husband on the roll but have found the following however not all women chose to enrol to vote.
Marriage
MCDONALD Catherine
STIFF Thomas
1863 Reg#2931
Thomas STIFF died in 1880 Reg#10974
2nd Marriage
STIFF Catherine born Scotland
WARD Charles Thomas
1886 Reg#4787
Birth
WARD Murdoch Thomas
Father Charles Thomas Mother Catherine MCDONALD
At Stawell 1887 Reg#24075
Death
WARD Murdoch Thomas
Father Ward Charles Thomas Mother Catherine MCDONALD
At West Brunswick 55 years 1943 Reg#931
Death of 2nd husband - so she should be buried with him at Stawell.
WARD Charles Thomas
Father Thomas WARD Mother Louisa Agnes KEMP
At Stawell 55 years 1909 Reg#10534
Cando
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Cando,
I get my own broadband connection at home on the 26 Aug., then it will be easier for me to do my research.
Murdoch father was definitely Donald Macdonald as I got that direct from a Gaelic speaker from North Uist who had a record of his patronym.
Highlanders in the 17, 18 and 19 century never had surnames (males or females). They all had patronyms, which were not labels but family history shorthand. They gave the fathers name and also his fathers name, so the son always had three 'Christian' names and no surname. The same was true for women and there mothers etc. The prefix Mac in Gaelic means 'son of' and you probably know that. What you may not know that the prefix Mic can be translated as grandson of.
So Murdoch's Patronym would be Murdoch Mac Donald Mic X, where X was the first name of his father's father. If he needed further identity he would also say "of Clan Donald" or "of North Uist" either of which identified him as a son of the 'Lord of the Isles'.
Also it was standard practice to always name the first male child after the fathers father, the first female child after the mothers mother, the second male child after the mothers father and the second female child after the fathers mother. This was only altered when an already born child died. The next born same gender child was named after that dead child.
You can see that Murdoch followed this religiously, in that the first male child of both wives was named Donald, so this must be his fathers name. The girls names also clearly indicate his mothers name etc. The second Donald use name was probably Ewan and when he died very young the next male child was named after him.
I will attach a copy of Samuel's cert to show you what I mean.
Ken
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Thank you. Am very familiar with naming patterns etc in Scotland.
Thank you for attaching the 1871 certificate which shows other children born to the second marriage whose births weren't registered.
Good luck with your research.
Cando
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Cando,
Thank you once again for your invaluable help ;D.
I attach a pdf of Murdoch Macdonald's family group, which I entered into my family tree at the weekend, including notes to myself.
This may help others that read my enquiries. It suggests to me that Catherine McSwan's father was called Samuel and her mother was Joanna.
Ken
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Ken the attachment is not readable by me. Perhaps it is just me. I have the latest pdf programme.
Cando
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Cando
I created it in Adobe Acrobat Pro 7 for the Macintosh system, as that is the computer I use. I chose pdf as it is supposed to be cross platform independent. I then copied it to my USB stick, went to the local Library and logged on to Rootschat etc. I know that Adobe Photoshop (Mac version) will open it, maybe other graphic applications can also.
When I get online from home on the 27th I will upload it in another format like jpg, to see if that works better.
Ken
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Hello Ken. Hoping you can help me. The McDonald family I'm interested in also came out on the Hercules, and was wondering if they could be connected to Murdoch - both coming from Nth Uist? They were Donald 39, Christy 35, Rory 6, Alexander 3, Norman 1. Archibald was born at Torrens in 1857 and died 1858. Details of the parents are known, but nothing can be found regarding the 3 boys. Perhaps you can come to light with some information.
Regards, Trying
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Hi Trying
I have had a quick look through the 1851 Census for NU and have found a family that may possible be yours. I include an attachment of an extract of that entry with this reply. The attachment is in RTF format and should be easily opened with any word processing or spreadsheet application. It is constructed using tabs to create the column effect.
The spelling and capitalization in my extract are not errors, but exact copies of the Census entry. Note that Christy is entered as Kersty. There are only two years age difference between Donald and Kersty in the Census (36 and 34 resp.), and the same with Rory and Alexander (4 & 2). I also added my own comments after the extract about the abbreviated headings for 2 of the columns.
I assumed that the ages you gave me were the ones for 1853 and the Hercules voyage. I therefore 'corrected' them for 1851 when looking up the Census. Norman is not with the family I found(too young), and the mother-in-law, Ann Macpherson (60), appears to be living with them at the time of the Census.
I also assumed that 'Torrens' is in Australia, so did not look for Archibald at all in Scotland.
I will look up the shiplist data to see if it can confirm a family connection between my Murdoch and your Donald and get back to you with any further info I find.
Please let me know if this census information is likely to be your Macdonald relatives or not.
regards
Ken
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Thank you Ken. I'm certain that is the correct family. Kristy had 2 other husbands apart from Donald. Peter Hollingsworth and George Porter. She died in a Destitute Asulymn in Adelaide. Very keen to find out what happened to the 3 boys.
Regards Cynthia
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Cynthia, I am doing my family tree research from my home near Loch Lomond in Scotland and have found these following resources in Australia to be a goldmine of hidden nuggets:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
http://www.genealogysa.org.au/
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/
If you already know of them, or live in Australia and I am not telling you new information, I apologize.
My research was hampered at first, because Murdoch skipped to Victoria within two years of arriving in South Australia. Like you I was primarily interested in the three daughters of my great cousin Mary Cameron and her husband Murdoch Macdonald. I eventually found them all in Wycheproof, Victoria.
The first site named above were very productive with regard to background info about daily happenings to my relatives. The second site produced a remarkable number of relatives births, deaths and marriages, very easily and quickly. The next two sites were less forthcoming with information and I had to persevere with the Victoria site even when I knew the certificate reference number I wanted. Most times it would tell me that no records were found and that I had not been charged for the search. I did eventually turn up Murdoch's death certificate from it, but it was a big struggle.
Hope this helps with your search
Ken
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I have checked all those sites, also have the Vic BDM and SA BDM, but nothing. Even checked the NZ records but they give very little information. Anyway will keep on looking!!!!!!
Many thanks for your help.
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Cynthia
I looked up the birth and death records for Archibald in SA and found that the mothers name does not agree with the one I found in NU. That M-in-L was Ann Macpherson, hence she must have been married to a Mr McKenzie when Kersty was born in NU.
If you don't have it, or are interested, I can look for any info on that marriage/family in NU prior to the 1851 Census and get back to you.
Ken
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Thank you Ken, that would be interesting. Kristy/Christy/Christian/Christiane's father was James McKenzie.
Cynthia
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Hi Cynthia
Everything after these words was typed by me before seeing your above reply. It turns out to be nonsense, but I hope you can score me an E for effort ::)
I attach the 1841 and 1851 census returns for district 10 in North Uist for your perusal in the form of PDF files.
The ages quoted in the 1841 census cannot be trusted as they were rounded down to the nearest 5 years. The census was taken by mainland (non-Gaelic speakers in the main) persons trying to note down and translate at the same time what the Gaelic speaking inhabitants were telling them. Hence the variations in name spelling like Macinsee, probably for McKenzie etc.
As a prime example of the discrepancies in the 1841 Census open both documents and scroll to Houghary Sch 22 in 1841 and Houghgary, Sc 20 1851. This is the same family 10 years apart, 8 in the household in 1841 and 5 in 1851. Compare the reported ages for the five common names in each census to see what I mean about trusting 1841 Census ages.
I think Your Kersty (McKenzie) Macdonald (age 34) of 1851 Sc 24 is Christiy Mackenzie (age 20) Sch 20 in the 1841 Census. You can see that her father was called Rory and her mother was Atty (Annie/Ann?). The reason I say this is that I recon her father died either just before or just after she married Donald and hence their firstborn son being named after her father instead of Donald’s father. This must be so, (if my 1841 suppositions are correct about that being Christy’s family at Sch 20) as the 1851 Census has Ann Macpherson U for unmarried and living with them as a Pauper.
Their second son being Alexander would suggest that that is the name of Donald’s father. For me to trace Donald’s family in the 1841 Census would be nigh on impossible without a lot more information about him.
1) There are a lot of Donald Macdonald’s in NU.
2) He may not have been living with his own family at the time of the 1841 Census.
3) He could have been working with relatives in South Uist or Harris etc.
I know that this is not the information you were trying to find when you contacted me originally.
One other suggestion I thought of was to try the Chat Room in Rootschat. I got very good help and results from there when I was on it at the start of my Aussie search. They are very, very helpful in looking things up online as they chat with you.
Regards
Ken
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I was interested in the info that has collected on this request, as I, too, had family set out (and arrive) in South Australia on the ship HERCULES.
Wondered if you had seen this site
http://www.angelfire.com/ns/bkeddy/HIES/hercules.html
Well worth a look...
Regards
PCB
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Hi PCB
Thank you for your info, appreciate it.
I have already used that source and it was instrumental in providing the info about Murdoch Macdonald's new bride, which the shiplist site did not.
This site is also quite good for info on HMS Hercules passengers:
http://www.scan.org.uk/researchrtools/emigration.htm
I am sure you have perused it also.
Regards
Ken
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Hi Ken,
I was just having a quick look and found your post. I am sure I am connected, through my mother, to Donald Cameron, North Uist. Will have a look at everything I have later and if I have any further information I will let you know.
Regards.
Jay
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Hi Jay,
Thanks for your contact. You will be the first 'relative' I have contacted in my family tree info search, if it turns out that we are related through your mother to Donald Cameron.
My family contains many Donald names and the vast majority are from North Uist. It will be good to establish further connections for one of them.
Look forward to any info from you in the future.
Regards
Ken
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Hi Ken,
Thanks for getting back to me. As I've not looked at this side of the family in while everything is a bit mixed up. Until I have time to sort it out properly I list what I can. My Cameron's, so far are:
Donald Cameron b. c1796 to Malcolm Cameron and Ann MacDonald he married Christian/Christy Laing b. c1802 to Ranald Laing and Margaret MacDonald in around 1824.
Donald and Christys children:
Mary b. 1825
Malcolm b. 1827
Christy b. 1829
Ranald b. 1831
Ann b. 1833
Christy b. 1835
John b. 1837
Angus (not sure of birth date) my Gt. Gt. Grandfather
Angus married Catherine McKinnon daughter of William McKinnon and Margaret Morrison in 1863 and had a daughter Tina, my Gt. Grandmother who had a son Angus, my Grandfather. My mothers middle names are Laing, Cameron.
Hopefully this should tell you if we are researching the same family.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Jay
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Hi Jay,
Bullseye!
I attach a jpg of the direct link between us (if it is not too large a file size to get to Rootschat).
This is the part of my tree and we are descended from Malcolm and Angus also. Tina would appear to be my Christy Cameron B 1872 and she married David Johnston. They had a son Angus, and that is where my search ended - up until now.
My tree is on line on my own website and if you wish to see it let me know. I will send you the link as a private message as the site is password protected.
My own email is *
Email address removed as per RC policy , please use the Personal Message system to exchange private information
See Help-Page: http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
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Hi Ken,
Thanks for attaching the family tree...unfortunately I can't make out a lot of the information. Could you tell me which software you use for this, I quite like the format. I'm using an old version of FTM which isn't really compatible with my laptop and wouldn't transfer the info from an old laptop so I'm starting again hence the interest again in the Cameron's.
As for Tina, yes she married David Johnston who was from Irongray in Dumfrieshire.
I have a bit of information on the Johnstons though I'm not sure if you would be interested. Let me know. Can't remember if they had children other than Angus, I will ask my mum today. Angus married Bridget McGeehan in Glasgow, will get date to you if you want it. They had three children, my mum (as they are alive I won't give their names), my uncle and aunt. My mum holidayed in North Uist as a child living with different relatives.
Which branch are you descendant from?
That's about all I can tell you about Tina and David. Will be speaking to my mum this afternoon so will ask her if she remembers anything else about the Cameron side of the family. Incidentally, my mums middle names are Laing and Cameron!
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Hi Jay,
Tina's brother Donald was the branch I tag on to. Not John Donald and not Donald John, it is Donald Cameron b. 1867 and married to Christina Cameron from Aharacle. Their son, Donald John Morrison Mackinnon Cameron, was my father. I'm in the JPG (the third son) of that branch.
I use an Apple Mac computer and bought MacFamilyTree genealogical software for my research (£49). It only works on Mac computers. It also comes with free website hosting in the purchase price. It is far superior (IMHO) to all other family tree applications on any platform. It also comes with many extras that you don't get with other apps. It is integrated directly with the LDS FamilySearch website giving free access to a worldwide database of genealogical info based in Salt Lake City, USA. It allows presentation of all, or part of, your tree in a huge variety of ways and formats.
Any info you feel you can pass me about the Johnston family, and or your own branch, would be gratefully received. I will be sending you a private message via rootschat with additional info.
Ken
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Hi all
In regards to Murdoch McDonalds daughter Catherine (1846-1919) I can give you a lot of information. Catherine Ward as she was known is my 5x great grand mother. She married Thomas Stiff (1835-1880) in 1863 in Symthesdale, Victoria, Australia. With Thomas Stiff Snr she had 7 children. She then went on to marry my 5x great grand father Thomas Henry Ward (1854-1909) in 1886. With Thomas she had Murdoch Thomas Ward (1887-1943). Thomas was a mine manager, on her marriage certificate to Thomas Ward, Catherine notes herself as a lady which has always made me laugh since she could not sign her own name. I could give you details on her sister's also if you would like as I have been tracing the girls through the newspaper archives in Victoria.
Let me know if you would like that, its great to actually find people looking into Murdoch and his family. :)
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Hi Rachelle
I am very interested in hearing anything you wish to pass to me about Catherine and her two sisters.
I also can give you access to information about the family prior to 1862 in North Uist. To this end I sent you a pm via RootsChat.
Looking forward to your response,
Ken Cameron
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Hi Rachelle ;D,
Contacted the Stawell Historical Society and they have info on Catherine McDonald which I am arranging to obtain. Their records show that she died in 1913 not 1919. She is buried beside her husband at Stawell. Her husbands name is not Thomas Henry Ward, but Charles Thomas Ward, so not an exact match with the details you gave me, but close.
From the rest of your info, I traced all her children from her marriage to Thomas Stiff with regard to their names and year of birth. Thank you very much for that boost to my family tree.
Still looking forward to any details you have on her sisters Margaret and Christy
Kind regards
Ken
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Possibly just a typo ;)
For Rachelle's records from earlier in the thread
Marriage
MCDONALD Catherine
STIFF Thomas
1863 Reg#2931
Thomas STIFF died in 1880 Reg#10974
2nd Marriage
STIFF Catherine born Scotland
WARD Charles Thomas
1886 Reg#4787
Birth
WARD Murdoch Thomas
Father Charles Thomas Mother Catherine MCDONALD
At Stawell 1887 Reg#24075
Death
WARD Murdoch Thomas
Father Ward Charles Thomas Mother Catherine MCDONALD
At West Brunswick 55 years 1943 Reg#931
Death of 2nd husband - so she should be buried with him at Stawell.
WARD Charles Thomas
Father Thomas WARD Mother Louisa Agnes KEMP
At Stawell 55 years 1909 Reg#10534
Cando
Cheers :)
Cando
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Ken, I realise it is a while since you made this post but I only recently joined rootschat and found it. I believe we are related from the same Donald Cameron. My grandfather is shown on the family tree you attached later on in the thread. His name was Donald John Cameron, born Claddach Kyles in 1906. He is the son of Archy Cameron and Christina MacIsaac, grandson of Malcolm Cameron and Mary Robertson and Great grandson of Donald Cameron and Christina Laing. I live at Claddach Kyles, North Uist. Hope you don't mind me getting in touch. If you would like the names of Donald John's children to add to your tree, I can send you that information.
Regards
Eilidh (Cameron) MacLean
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Hi Eilidh,
Just had to say that I am related to the Cameron family via my mother ( her Gt Gt Grandparents were Donald Cameron and Kirsty Laing...her middle names being Laing and Cameron). She spent a few summers on North Uist as a child and still talks about it many years on. She will be interested to hear that some of the family are still on the Island.
Jay
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Hi Jay,
I had seen your posts along with Ken's and was going to message you too. There are still a lot of Cameron relatives here. There are Cameron's next door to me at Claddach Kyles and even after living here for ten years I find out in passing that a person I have known for ages is related to me. I grew up on the mainland but would come back on holiday to visit family as your mum did. My grandfather had moved to Greenock but his older 3 children lived here during the war as their mother had died young and Donald John was a police constable in Greenock. I met my husband when I was here on holiday and have been here ever since. Couldn't live anywhere else now. Didn't find out till after we built our house at Claddach Kyles that my grandfather was born about half a mile away .
Eilidh :)
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Hi Eilidh,
Delighted to hear from you, and to find out that part of the Cameron clan are still living at Cladach Kylis.
I will send you more information via a PM, but will be delighted to accept any info you wish to give me. My family tree is supposed to be about the Cameron name but has been swamped by Macdonald and Laing roots. Any increase in Cameron branches will be most welcome.
Look forward to giving and receiving FT info with you.
Kind regards
Ken
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Ranald Cameron b1831 was my great-great grandfather. His daughter Annie married Allan MacCuish - they were my great grandparents and had nine children in all. They bought what was the schoolhouse at Claddach Kirkibost and ran some kind of shop from there. Their daughter Morag was my dad's mother. She married Harry Adamson from Yorkshire who was driver to a Lord Anstruther Grey and often went to Uist with him. Morag and Harry Adamson had two sons - my dad Norman and his brother Ronald - both still living in Edinburgh. I have one brother also Norman Adamson who lives near Cupar in Fife though he is on North Uist for a couple of weeks just now with my dad to visit 88 year old cousin Donald. Morag's sister Meg married a John Ross from Edderton who died in WWII. They had two sons - Donald who now lives his grandparents house (Annie and Allan's house) at Claddach Kirkibost. I have fond memories of summer holidays on Uist as a child and was just there in August visiting. I live with my husband in Juneau, Alaska. Have more info on Annie and Allan's other children. Hope someone is still reading this chat!
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Hi Liz, great to hear from another contact with links to my family tree. Tania sent me word about a possible contact living in Alaska just the other day and here you are. Your Ronald Cameron b1831 was the older brother to Angus Cameron b. about 1841 who was my great grandfather. I will send you a PM with access instructions to my family tree which is on-line. Feel free to peruse it and send me any corrections and/or additions. They will be very welcome. I will add your info from above to my tree and update it soon. My father's parents died long before I was born so I never met them. I remember a chance meeting with one of my father's brothers in Glasgow when I was about 6 years old, but never met any other of his siblings. I never even knew we originated from North Uist till I started my FT research as my father told us that his father came from Islay. My father was only 8 years old when his father died. More info to follow in the PM. Kind regards Ken Cameron
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Hi Liz, Your PM mailbox is full so I cannot send the additional info till there is space in it.
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Hi Ken,
I think you received a mailbox is full message because I am new to rootschat.
I found this under 'help"
New members must make at least three postings before being allowed to use the PM facility.
Please note: If you are sending PMs to new members who have less than three posts you will receive an error message, that your limit, or allowed number has been reached. (note that it says your limit, although it actually refers to the recipient.)
Perhaps one more post will open my mailbox
Liz
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Cousin Donald Ross told me that Annie Cameron's father Ranald Cameron was tailor on Uist.
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Great to see you guys talking!!! Ken and Liz!!!