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Can anyone tell me where "Everstow nr Brig" is or was please?????
My ancestor John Rainford was born about 1799 and was living in Manchester in 1828. In April 1828 John went to Leeds to attend a wrestling match where "he had got amongst some bad characters known to him in his earlier years." They were drinking for some time with another man and when that man's pocket was picked John was the only person apprehended and convicted. John was tried at York and sentenced to death but transported to Tasmania for life. On his convict papers his native place is given as "Everstow nr Brig". I cannot find anywhere by this name but heard of an area of Leeds called Briggate. As the people from "his earlier years" met up with him in Leeds I thought it possible that is where "Everstow nr Brig" is? I'm in Australia and don't have an extensive knowledge of Leeds. Any suggestions appreciated please.
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Hi
Did your previous post not answer this question :-\
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=560979.msg4135234#msg4135234
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Rosie: Certainly Brig is Lincolnshire first thoughts, not in Leeds West Yorkshire.
Brian
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A marriage and baptism at Hibaldstow St. Hibald (Lincs)
30 May 1796, John Rainford (Bachelor) and Mary Ellis (Spinster), both of Hibaldstow.
8 June 1798, John son of John and Mary Rainforth.
I don't think Rainford/Rainforth is a very common name in Lincolnshire.
Alan.
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Hi Rosie,
Just wanting to explore every possibility, hadn't looked at Leeds and given the fact that he met up with the "bad characters" in Leeds thought it should be considered especially when I heard recently about Briggate.
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Ah, Briggate was an unruley place back then.
(Out of interest have you tried entering into your web browser Everstow near Brig?)
Gives some interesting information regarding your John - Highwayman comes to the front!
Brian
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Thanks Brian, tried that. The only entries I seem to get are ones connected to a query I put in a few years ago. "Highwayman" sounds different to "rolled a drunk after a 'pub crawl' ". "Highwayman" brings to mind the poem we learnt at school. He ended up with his own pub in Tasmania.
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I believe that "Everstow" is (or was) a local pronunciation for Hibaldstow which is certainly nr Brigg in the former county of Humberside; historically Lindsey; Lincs.
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Many thanks, that helps a lot. We just want to make sure we're looking at the right place, not always easy without the benefit of local knowledge of places and speech patterns. :) :) :)
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Whatever the aspirations of Lincolnshire people i have found the pronunciation of the letter "H" is seldom amongst them. In the 1901 census my father's cousin was recorded as Arrold. Also remember that standardised spelling was still developing from the late 18th century, and that in any case spelling does evolve over time. Need to take account of these things to assist with decyphering old documents and other research.
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:)Thanks Redroger.