RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: SallyOwens on Friday 22 October 04 09:13 BST (UK)
-
James Henry Terlour , a woodcarver, lived in Pancras, London. Apparently born in Plymouth, Devon around 1820/21. Have not found his birth in Plymouth registers so far. Very few Terlours in England - mostly Portsea, Alverstoke, Plymouth and Falmouth. News of any would be greatly appreciated.
-
James Henry Terlour born in Plymouth around 1820/1821.
Would be glad of any info regarding him or the Terlour family.
-
Hi Sally,
Have you found him in the Census returns yet ?
RootsChat :)
-
Hi there,
I am moving this topic into the Devon board where it will be seen by those with expertise in the area.
Good Luck,
Kazza.
-
:)
Hi
I have Terlours in my Maternal line. I have found them in the census returns spelt Tellore! I think that Terlour maybe the result of a "clerical" error and was Treloar but I would love to be proved wrong ::)
My earliest Terlour was born Falmouth. He married in 1845 but I haven't found his birth yet.
Regards,
Jackie
-
Hello Jackie,
I also think Terlour has possibly come from Trelour, Tellore etc as a result of being mis-spelt. But the fact that there are so few in all the records, makes me wonder were they all from the same original family, or were there lots of different people mis-spelling their names?!
At the moment these are the branches I know of :-
My own branch in London from James Henry who came from Plymouth.
The branch in Plymouth.
TheTerlours in Cornwall.
The branch in Hampshire, living in Portsmouth/Alverstoke.
That seems to be all there is. I assumed thatnthey originated in Cornwall and then moved away to find work.
I have been compiling a list of any Terlours (or any one resembling the name)for some time. If you give me details of your Terlours, I will see if I have got anything else on them.
Regards,
Sally
-
:)
Hi Sally,
My Great Great Grandma was Harriet Ann Terlour born Gosport - daughter of John Terlour born Falmouth circa 1820 and Mary Ann (Mortimore) They married 21/07/1845.
I'd love to receive any info on Terlour's as I haven't done any research on this side of my family yet.
Kind regards,
Jackie
-
Hello Jackie,
I expect you've probably got this info already - but heregoes.
I found John Tellore (Terlour) on the 1851 Census for Alverstoke living at 42 Wyper Alley with Mary Ann and children Harriett & John. John, a waterman, born Falmouth in 1814.His father was also John and a yeoman.
In 1851 census for Devon, found Abednigo Terlour, aged 70 living with wife Betsey in Plymouth. He was also born in Falmouth. I wonder if John senior and Abednigo were brothers? This might mean that my ancestor, James Henry (born Plymouth circa 1820) might be one of their sons and brother/cousin to your John. Unfortunately I have not been able to trace him prior to living in London.
I made contact several yearsago with a lady from Portsmouth researching her husbands family - he was from the King family - I believe Robert Stone King married Harriett Ann Terlour?
I have got lots of name sof Terlours I have found in BMD and Censuses , but nothing else about the earlier ones.
Hope this helps,
Sally
-
Hi Sally,
I have a copy of the marriage betweent Robert Stone King and Harriet Terlour as this is part of my tree! Harriet & Robert where my GG Grandparents.
I have the info from the 1851 census but where did you find John's Bap 1814 and his father's details?
Jackie
-
Hello Jackie,
I didnt find a baptism for John - I think I just saw his age at the time of the 1851 census and deducted it - which I know isnt the most accurate way of doing it - its just an approximate guess.
The lady from Portsmouth who wrote to me ( I sent a letter to the Hampshire Family Historian) sent details she found from the Alverstoke Parish Marriage Registers showing John Terlour marrying Mary Ann Mortimore, and stating that his father was also John and a yeoman.
Sally
-
Hi Sally,
Thank you for your help.
I'll see if I can find the marriage.
Have you got a contact for the HFH please?
Thanks again.
Jackie
-
Hello Jackie,
I think it was through the Hampshire Genealogical Society - www.hgs-online.org.uk
Sally
-
Hi Sally,
I know have a copy of the marriage for my John Terlour & Mary Ann Mortimore.
21st July 1845 Alverstoke John was a mariner. His father was John "Trelour" Yeoman.
Looks like we've found a link to the Treloar's!
Jackie
-
Thats great Jackie - let me know if you want the other Terlour names that I have accumulated from trawling through the BMD, censuses etc.
Sally
-
Hi Sally,
Have you got a copy of James Henry's marriage cert? This will have his father's name on and you may find him in the 1841 census.
I've searched the IGI for his birth with no joy.
Jackie
-
Hello Jackie,
No I've never (so far) found a marriage certificate - I've been looking for years and unless I've just missed something, i wonder if they actually married.