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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: shyster2008 on Tuesday 06 August 13 00:16 BST (UK)
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Hi All...
Have been Researching the Wrights Family Tree for the last year and still have many unanswered questions and a lot of gaps in the Tree..
I have already asked if anyone has any Information on the FOUNDER of Wrights Ropes in 1770 and have come up with blanks.....All I get is Information about the Translantic Cable in 1865...
All I am asking is does anyone have anything else to add??? PLEASE...
Brian.
P.S. Now losing hope in finding the FOUNDER...But there may be someone out there that may point me in the right direction.
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Forgot to say that the Wrights are Wrights Ropes Ltd of Universe Works, Garrison Lane Birmingham.
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Wrights Ropes Ltd only acquired that name in 1927.
The firm was incorporated, in the name of John & Edwin Wright Ltd., in 1899.
Not sure what the firm was called from founding in 1770 until 1899?
Some papers are available at Doncaster Archives, although you'll need permission from Bridon PLC to view them? (Bridon took over Wrights Ropes in 1963)
See TNA notes at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=197-dybri&cid=31#31
Intending users should first contact the Bridon Company Archivist, Archives Department, King Edward Road, Doncaster DN4 0NA.
There is a section, headed "History and Publicity" that contains documents entitled: "Correspondence and other items; concerning the 150th anniversary of the firm in 1920 DY/BRI/31/42 1920-1921"
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Interesting to note that the business of John & Edwin Wright had 3 addresses?!
Universe Works, Garrison Street, Birmingham
Universe Works, Millwall, Poplar, London
City Office, Leadenhall Street, London
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Hello,
Does ths thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=619104.0 help with the founder?
I think you say your grandmother was a relative which is what presumably you are trying to prove. Have you established her ancestors? Is there any possible link yet?
Regards
Heywood
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Hi All.
Thanks for the Feedback to now...
I have Information about John & Edwin Wright and that John lived in Inverness Terrace in London and was in charge of the London office and Edwin lived in birmingham and was in charge of the Birmingham operation..
Bridon Steel and Rollason Ropes feature in my Research....Doncaster Archives may have some insight into my research....
I have so much Information about John & Edwin Wright but very little about their Ancestors...
I do know who their Father and Grandfather was and that a Relative married a Baron Lechmere....
But I still cannot get back to the founder...
Brian.
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Hello,
Does ths thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=619104.0 help with the founder?
I think you say your grandmother was a relative which is what presumably you are trying to prove. Have you established her ancestors? Is there any possible link yet?
Regards
Heywood
Hi Heywood...
You must have a very good memory....Yes I am still trying to find the link...There seems to be so many "Brick Walls" in the way....
It seems that the Link may be with the Founder of Wrights Ropes in 1770 and not later; hence my quest in trying to discover who he was ...Savvy???
Brian.
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It seems to me that what you have to do is:
a) First contact the archivist at Bridon.
He/she may have the information you require?
In any case you will need permission from Bridon in order to get access to the material at Doncaster Archives.
b) Pay a visit (or pay a researcher) to Doncaster Archives, to look at the papers they have.
c) Follow the family tree back to find which of the Wright family was a likely candidate.
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Good advice KGarrad.
I just wonder how far you have got with grandma's family tree in order to look for someone in 1770. You were given information previously about William And Ann Wright and the Turners.
Did you manage to sort that?
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Good advice KGarrad.
I just wonder how far you have got with grandma's family tree in order to look for someone in 1770. You were given information previously about William And Ann Wright and the Turners.
Did you manage to sort that?
Hi Heywood...
Got William and Ann Wright AND the Turners all sorted, thank you.
Will have to see what I can get from the Doncaster Archives....
I have reams of information on Bridon..Buy out of Wrights Ropes Ltd and also about Rollason...
Directors, Secretaries etc. etc. but that Information was in 1999....Does not get me back to the 1770!!!!
The gap I have is prior to William and Ann Wright....Would like to find Williams` Parents....Ann Wright nee Turner I have Parents and Siblings....It is William who is the problem...
Brian.
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Just had a thought....
I think it was Kgarrard who mentioned the 150th Anniversary of Wrights Ropes Ltd.....
That might throw some more light on the matter if I could find Info on this !!!!!
Brian
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Brian,
You'll get nothing until you get permission from Bridon!
Doncaster Archives have an access restriction on all the Bridon papers.
So, ask them first! ;D
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Good advice KGarrad.
I just wonder how far you have got with grandma's family tree in order to look for someone in 1770. You were given information previously about William And Ann Wright and the Turners.
Did you manage to sort that?
Hi Heywood...
Got William and Ann Wright AND the Turners all sorted, thank you.
Will have to see what I can get from the Doncaster Archives....
I have reams of information on Bridon..Buy out of Wrights Ropes Ltd and also about Rollason...
Directors, Secretaries etc. etc. but that Information was in 1999....Does not get me back to the 1770!!!!
The gap I have is prior to William and Ann Wright....Would like to find Williams` Parents....Ann Wright nee Turner I have Parents and Siblings....It is William who is the problem...
Brian.
Hi again,
Think you may like this
The business was founded in 1770 by William Wright of Dartmouth Street, and continued first by his son William and then his daughter-in-law Ann, and in 1846 by his grandsons John and Edwin. They were the patentees and brought the firm to its later size.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=22964&strquery=wright
Lots of info on there,
claire
Apologies if I seem not to understand. If you have William and Ann and the Turners sorted, do they fit into your grandma's family tree?
Are you now just looking for the parents of the founder?
Would it be easier to post re William and his parents?
Heywood
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So, you had this information all the time?! :-\
Founded by William Wright.
Continued by his son William, then his daughter-in-law, Ann.
Then by his grandsons, John & Edwin.
I am now very confused! :-\
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That's what I don't understand so am asking for some clarity re grandmother's tree and the Wrights and the Turners connection.
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So, you had this information all the time?! :-\
Founded by William Wright.
Continued by his son William, then his daughter-in-law, Ann.
Then by his grandsons, John & Edwin.
I am now very confused! :-\
Hi Kgarrad..
Sorry for the delay in replying....
I am very confused also...
Take a look at the timespan between the Founder and his son and then his Grandsons......There seems to be something missing or am I getting it wrong??
William Wright founded the Co. in 1770 so lets presume he was 25 OK?..So we have not established his birthdate so we say 1755.....Now look at his son...He must have been at least 50 when his son was born....It does not gel....Savvy???
I looked at the Archives and it states, as you said, that William passed the company to his son and then to his Grandsons via......We know all that...
It still does not gel for me....Need more research...
Brian
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That's what I don't understand so am asking for some clarity re grandmother's tree and the Wrights and the Turners connection.
Hi Heywood.
Sorry for the delay....
Seems I have a possible link in the chain and it does not go back to the 1770s...
Got some information yesterday that suggests that my grandmas sister was involved with the wrights in 1926!!!!
Still looking at records so I will not know until later....Sisters name was Annie for your Information OK?
Also have a look at what I have just Posted to Kgarrad....You might be able to help there also..
Regards
Brian.
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Take a look at the timespan between the Founder and his son and then his Grandsons......There seems to be something missing or am I getting it wrong??
William Wright founded the Co. in 1770 so lets presume he was 25 OK?..So we have not established his birthdate so we say 1755.....Now look at his son...He must have been at least 50 when his son was born....It does not gel....Savvy???
What's the problem with that?!
Sorry - I don't understand.
I looked at the Archives and it states, as you said, that William passed the company to his son and then to his Grandsons via......We know all that...
It still does not gel for me....Need more research...
Brian
Which you can get by contacting Bidon in the first instant! ::)
Ask them what they know, and ask for permission to look at the archived papers.
QED
I won't waste my time detailing census returns (which you probably already have), but the family are here in 1841:
Class: HO107; Piece: 1149; Book: 4; Folio: 29; Page: 15
Ann 35
William 16
John 14
Edwin 12
So, Ann born between 1802-1806.
Her husband William could be up to 20 years older (or more! :o), so he might have been born in 1780's or 1790's.
Which would make William senior aged about 30-40 at a guess?
Perfectly reasonable!