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Title: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: humanracer on Sunday 04 August 13 16:32 BST (UK)
I like the system on Ancestry where you can copy info from other trees but I guess it only works if the info is right. For James Auctherlonie I am getting at least three different dates for his death.

He is my fourth great grandfather. I have all the info for his daughter  Betsey or Elizabeth Auchterlonie (1800 – 1864). I also have a record for the birth of his son Robert in 1811. His wife was Anne Morrison and they married in 1798. Most sites list his death as 1884 but I cannot find any record for that on scotlandspeople. I found a record for a James Auchterlonie in 1874 but Anne is not listed on the death certificate at all. On this death cert the father is listed as James and no mother is listed. His occupation is Ploughman but on his daughter's marriage certificate it was stone mason. This leads me to think it is not the person I am looking for. Most sources state that James's parents are Charles Auchterlonie and Katherine (or Catharine) Howie.

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 04 August 13 17:46 BST (UK)
When his daughter married, which I assume is after 1854 if you have a statutory certificate for it, did it say that her father was still alive? If so, you should find him (under some spelling) in the 1851 census.

Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: humanracer on Sunday 04 August 13 18:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for the reply
His daughter married in 1827, she was born in 1800
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: ev on Sunday 04 August 13 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi ,

Some have his death as November 1840 , and his wifes death as 12th November 1848(gravestone ?).

Unfortunately I think the 1841 Census for Ceres is missing.
Can't see them in Fife on the 1851 Census.

ev
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: Sheena-Ann Brown on Saturday 03 January 15 12:52 GMT (UK)
http://records.ancestry.ca/james_auchterlonie_records.ashx?pid=33178799
http://records.ancestry.ca/Home/Results?firstName=james&lastName=auchterlonie
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: ecksdochter on Saturday 25 April 15 14:59 BST (UK)
Hello,
     I clicked on the first link which Sheena-Ann Brown posted. That brought up an Auchterlonie Tree on Ancestry which says:
     "James Auchterlonie b Scotland, 14th Jan 1777. Son of Charles Auchterlonie & Katherine Howie.
     Married Anne Morrison and had 2 children.
     He passed away 1884 in Scotland."

     Mmmmm. That would make him 107yrs. old when he "passed away in Scotland." Mmmmm.

                    Regards,     Dod.

     

     
     

     
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: isobelw on Saturday 25 April 15 16:54 BST (UK)
I noticed on the Ancestry tree that Anne Morrison is also shown as dying in 1884 as is  daughter Jean Munro nee Auchterlonie. Jane Munro or Auchterlonie did die in 1884 (Scotlandspeople) and presumably both parents were shown as deceased on her death certificate and this has been translated on to Ancestry as deceased by 1884 but shows up as looking as if it is the actual year of death.
Isobel
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 25 April 15 22:24 BST (UK)
H,  I think he could be a stonemason & a ploughman.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: Seoras on Saturday 25 April 15 22:29 BST (UK)
I don't see why not Skoosh. My 3xG grandfather was a fisherman and a weaver (probably made his own nets) ;D
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 25 April 15 22:57 BST (UK)
Ditto Seoras, one of my g'gramps was an Orkney ploughman on my grannys birth cert' & then in Queensferry building the stone piers of the Forth Bridge, following which he was a maltman in Leith.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Need help with James Auchterlonie from Ceres Fife
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 26 April 15 10:24 BST (UK)
I clicked on the first link which Sheena-Ann Brown posted. That brought up an Auchterlonie Tree on Ancestry which says:
     "James Auchterlonie b Scotland, 14th Jan 1777 passed away 1884 in Scotland."
Another fine example of why you should never trust an online tree. I bet you that someone at some point has mistyped '1884' for '1848' and all the other so-called 'sources' have blindly copied the error without thinking.

The Fife Family History Society has a database of all recorded burials in Fife. It might be worth contacting them to ask what actual recorded and verified facts are available.

Moderator, why not move this thread to the Fife board?