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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Christcooper on Saturday 03 August 13 09:18 BST (UK)
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Morning all. Can anyone tell me what the occupation of James Dabinett is? I have marked it with a red cross. Its probably really obvious but I just cant work it out. Many thanks, Chris
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I'd say Dabinett is a newsman - which, from a on-line search, means someone who gathers, edits and reports 'news' - news events/local stories, etc. In other words, a reporter.
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cheers for that. he comes from an AgLab background. I would be surprised if he was a reporter...but you never know.
Chris
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OK - as he's living near a stream, is it a mis-transcription for a 'sluiceman'?
Spelt 'sluiseman'
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What about 'nurseman', really meaning 'nurseryman'? (meaning employed in cultivating plants - clutching at straws here :))
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Gaffy and JC...thanks...I thought it was me. It looks clear but obviously isn't. Cheers for your suggestions. Chris
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I read this as Nusiman, and like gaffy was wondering if was actually Nu[rser]iman, i.e. nurseryman?
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Thanks Jen. The area is famous for willow. Perhaps there is something with nursery man. Cheers
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Looking at this site for occupations in 1841:
http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php
I see "nagsman" as the holder of horses outside a store or building, if the hitch post was already full.
-Robin
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Is he the same person as James Dabinette born Barrington, who in 1851 was aged 79 in Langport Union Workhouse? Occupation "formerly shoe maker".
1851: HO107/1926/301/12.
Possible death of James Dabinett, Dec qtr 1852 Langport 5c 301.
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looks like we had the same lead, Anna. I typed this up this morning but then had visitors -will put it up now as it corresponds to your info:
A few trees on Ancestry have him dying in 1852. There is a possible for him in Langport Union Workhouse in 1851 - HO107/1926/301/12 where he's down as 79 and 'Formerly a Shoe maker'. Indexed as Dabruth and Dabrinth but I can't make it as anything like that on the 1841 (shoemaker, I mean)!
Also a Mary Dabinet, 75, at HO107/1936/13 described as 'Cordwainer's Wife'
Gadget
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Now all we need is a synonym for shoemaker/cordwainer which looks something like Nusiman :)
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Thanks everyone. This is James Dabinett, born in Barrington or close, married twice, Mary Walden and a year after her death to my 4th great grandmother, Mary (ready for this) Shoemake. Gadget, I would love to know where your Mary cordwainers wife entry is from.
Many thanks, chris
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Hi Chris
Re Mary in 1851 - I did give the Ref -HO107/1936/363/13 - but here she is, a few miles from Langport!
South Road, Berrow
Benjamin Rice, 53, Ag Lab, b. Hunspill
Ann, w, 35, b. Stoke Gregory
Benjamin, s, 12 b. Berrow
John, s, 10, b. do
Mary Dabnet, m-in-l, 75, Cordwainer's wife, b. Taunton
Also found this marriage:
Dec q, 1837, Langport, v 10 p
Benjamin Rice and Anne Shoemack on the same page
Gadget
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James's death cert should show his occupation. Although , if he died in Lanport workhouse, it would probably say the same as the 1851 census:
Death - James Dabinett, Dec q, 1852, Langport, v 5c p 301
Buried 30 October 1852, Barrington, aged 80
Though it might be something to do with nubuck but there's no b in it :-\
Gadget
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Gadget, thanks so much....you have answered a question that has clouded the family tree for several years. We were really never too sure about the name Shoemack. Many thanks for the info, Chris
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Bit more -
Details of the Rice/Shoemack marriage on Free Reg
25 Dec 1937, Berrow
Bemjamin Rice, Widower, labourer. Father John Rice, labourer.
Anne Shoemack, spinster. Father James Shoemack, boatman.
Both made their mark.
Witnesses - James Dabinett, Mary Dabinett
Gadget
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Another from FreeReg:
Marriage 26 June 1803, Taunton
James Shewmake and Mary Wilkey
Added - Although I've just seen this which looks very likely!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=478409.msg3374450#msg3374450
(Maybe some porkies! )
Gadget
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WOW Gadget!!. This Shoemak side has been really testing. Mary is in the Stoke St Gregory registers online as Mary Shoamrt(Shoemak) having three illegtimate children baptised, one of whom is Ann. No mention of a James Shoemak. This is very interesting. I have had contact with the other person...cas...we are related through this line and the Squire family.
Cheers, Chris
If you find anything on James Shoemak I would love to know
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I'm tempted by this baptism but it's Martock not Taunton/area:
29 March 1786 (b. 26 Feb) Mary d/o Henry and Maria Shoomake
However, there is a James:
Martock 15 April 1789 James Shomake s/o Henry (note says aged 7! )
Also to same parents - Charles (18 Jan 1788)
There seems to be a Henry, John and George having children around the same time.
(sorry can't do any more at the moment - connection is very slow and I have to move some rocks ;D )
Gadget
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Martock is right on the money....thanks for everything.....you be careful out there with them rocks!!
Chris