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George [Patrick?] MCKENNA is the son of William MCKENNA and Margaret REA / RAY / RAE
Born 1871 Emerald Hill Victoria REG #16144
Died ? Reg #? Buried?
Married Sarah STEPHENS 1907 REG #2656
Sarah MCKENNA nee STEPHENS died 1963 Age 79 Fitzroy Victoria REG #?
Margaret Ann MCKENNA is the daughter of William MCKENNA and Margaret REA / RAY / RAE
Born 1856? Woolwich England?
Died 1912 Port Melbourne Victoria Age 46 REG #7233 Buried?
Married John Kenney 1874 REG #1689
John Kenney Born? Died? Buried?
Thomas Joseph MCKENNA is the son of James William MCKENNA and Ellen [Nellie] BROWN
Born 1900 Bendigo REG #8778
Died 1981 Age 80 Mt Eliza Victoria REG #00394 Buried?
Married? Where? To whom?
Looking for a...
Thomas John McKenna
Born? Died? Buried?
Married Clara DIXON 1914 REG #1185
Clara McKenna nee DIXON
Born? Died? Buried?
Any help in regard to the above when time permits would be much appreciated. Best wishes, Denise.
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Sarah MCKENNA nee STEPHENS died 1963 Age 79 Fitzroy Victoria REG #?
MCKENNA Sarah age 79yrs d. 1963 FITZ #21899
Father: Georg STEPHENS
Mother: Sarah LYNCH
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Clara McKenna nee DIXON
Died?
MCKENNA Clara age 85yrs d. 1972 CHAR #29594
Father: William DIXON
Mother: Margaret MOLONEY
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Clara McKenna nee DIXON
Born?
DIXON Clara b. 1887 KILM #20969
Father: William
Mother: Margaret MALONEY
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Thomas John McKenna
Born?
MCKENNA Thomas John b. 1871 BURR #7668
Father: James
Mother: Margaret SCOTT
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Thomas John McKenna
Died?
MCKENNA Thomas John age 84yrs d. 1957 RICH # 2775
Father: James
Mother: Margaret SCOTT
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MCKENNA Thomas John b. 1871 BURR #7668
Father: James
Mother: Margaret SCOTT
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MCKENNA Thomas John age 84yrs d. 1957 RICH # 2775
Father: James
Mother: Margaret SCOTT
Hi Merlin,
We realise now Thomas John MCKENNA who married Clara DIXON is not a family member from the information you provided. Thank you.
Sorry to have not replied sooner.
Best wishes, Denise.
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RE: George [Patrick?] MCKENNA is the son of William MCKENNA and Margaret REA / RAY / RAE
Born 1871 Emerald Hill Victoria REG #16144
Died ? Reg #? Buried?
Married Sarah STEPHENS 1907 REG #2656
Sarah MCKENNA nee STEPHENS died 1963 Age 79 Fitzroy Victoria REG #?
RE: MCKENNA Sarah age 79yrs d. 1963 FITZ #21899
Father: Georg STEPHENS
Mother: Sarah LYNCH
I found the following from Ancestry and it confirms that Sarah STEPHENS did not marry OUR George [Patrick?] MCKENNA after all as you shall witness below. I'd like to locate his date of Marriage [if applicable], Death and Burial location please if at all possible? Any further information on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Denise.
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Sorry, forgot the 2nd attachment.
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For your interest Denise, here is the birth registration for George McKenna.
He has only one given name.
MCKENNA George
Father William
Mother Margaret RAY
Birth Place EMER
Year 1871
Reg Number 16144
Material regarding the George Patrick McKENNA you have sighted on the public tree is readily available. However, he appears not relevant to your search.
Two other children of William and Margret McKENNA are listed on the death index in Vic.
Names James William and Agnes. I will type the full entries if you wish, but I suspect you have them already.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Pleased to meet you.
Thank you for your email and message here on Rootschat.
I am still searching for various BDM details for their Children.
Any dates / Reg to confirm their BDM you have for the following would be of most help when time permits?
Thank you kindly, Denise.
Parents:
William MCKENNA and Margaret REA / RAY / RAE
Children:
William McKenna B: 1854? D: 1858?
Margaret Ann : 1856 Woolwich? D: 1912 Port Melb Age 46 Reg 7233 M: John Kenney 1874 Reg 1689
William David B: 1858? D: 1868?
Mary Theresa B: 1860? D: by 1883 re father's death cert? M:?
Emma/Amy B: 1865? D: 1902 Melb Age 36 Reg: 2635 [Died a McKenna]
James William B: 12.08.1866 St Thomas Mount India D: 1940 Melb Age 73 Reg: 7491 M: Ellen [Nellie] Brown 1892 South melbourne Reg: 6662
Ada B: 1869 Emerald Hill Reg: 15418 D: ? M: James Flaherty 1890? Reg: 7861
George B: 1871 Emerald Hill Reg: 16144 D:? M:?
Agnes B: 1873 Emerald Hill Reg: 23764 D: 1950 Ballarat Age 77 Reg: 22290 [Died a McKenna]
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On the 1883 death certificate for William McKenna, which you refer to above, how many years in the colony please?
Or,....... do you have the family's immigration details and can confirm all children you have listed did, in fact, come to Australia
Sue
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George B: 1871 Emerald Hill Reg: 16144 D:? M:?
Denise, there is no second name or initial on the registration.
Sue
sorry, just realised you are using upper case B to stand for birth.
Usually it is lower case!
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Dath of ADA
O'FLAHERTY Ada
Father Mckenna Wm
Mother Margt Ann RAY
Death Place S MELB
Age 75
Year 1943
Reg Number 11985
She was on the Electoral Roll from 1903 to 1943 in South Melbourne, but I do not see James with her. There were five children to the marriage from 1891 to 1897. I can’t spot James after that.
Sue
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Dath of ADA
O'FLAHERTY Ada
Father Mckenna Wm
Mother Margt Ann RAY
Death Place S MELB
Age 75
Year 1943
Reg Number 11985
She was on the Electoral Roll from 1903 to 1943 in South Melbourne, but I do not see James with her. There were five children to the marriage from 1891 to 1897. I can’t spot James after that.
Sue
Thank you Sue for locating Ada's death, the Electoral Roll dates and number of children to the marriage. I found an article in TROVE of which states a James O'Flaherty, formerly of Melbourne, plus Ada O'Flaherty name appears also. May or may not be relevant. Kind regards, Denise.
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Or,....... do you have the family's immigration details and can confirm all children you have listed did, in fact, come to Australia
Sue
Sue, I'll send you the shipping record via email for you to review. Thank you, Denise.
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I found an article in TROVE of which states a James O'Flaherty, formerly of Melbourne, plus Ada O'Flaherty name appears also. May or may not be relevant. Kind regards, Denise.
This will be his death in WA
FLAHERTY James
Aged 45
Parents Unknown
Reg 2929
Yr 1902
Sue
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For those who would like to see the immigration record, this is the group arriving.
The original record notes they are British.
MCKENNA Child with (C) Date- DEC 1868. Ship BOMBAY. F120 001
MCKENNA,Infant with (C)
MCKENNA,Miss (A)
MCKENNA,Mrs (A)
MCKENNA, Sergt ( A)
As the ship arrived in 1868, the births before that cannot be confirmed through Australian records.
Don't know who Miss McKenna is. Listed as Adult.
I assume you have taken the list of children from the death certificate of one of the parents??
As I noted in Reply #11 you seem to have the death certificate of William McKENNA. Is it from this you have taken the children's names?
Was he married only once that being to Margaret?
Where did that marriage take place?
Sue
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This could possibly be Margaret Ann KENNEY.
Electoral Roll
1903
KENNEY, Margaret
Address- 164 Racecourse Rd. Flemington. Draper.
No others of the surname are with her.
Flemington was in the Electoral District of Melbourne Ports, her place of death as you have noted.
I have not seen any children for John and Margaret Ann KENNEY.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
I will email you the death certificate for William MCKENNA for you to view the childrens names listed.
We have the death details for his wife Margaret McKenna nee REA / RAY / RAE, however we have not purchased her death certificate at this stage.
William MCKENNA
d: 06.01.1883 Emerald Hill Vic
reg: 1268
age: 57
Buried Melbourne General Cemetery
Parents Unknown
Margaret REA / RAY / RAE
d: 1902
reg: 10812
age: 70
Buried Melbourne General Cemetery 02.08.1902
father: David Rae
mother: Mary Tynan
Still trying to locate the marriage certificate / date of William & Margaret McKenna nee REA / RAY / RAE marriage. We believe it may have been in Ireland. Not known if he or she were previously married.
RE: Don't know who Miss McKenna is. Listed as Adult. Miss McKenna on the passenger list we believe to be Margaret Ann. I was told when a female child turns 12 years old they were classed as Miss [adult] back then!?
Thank you for FLAHERTY James death details. So he did die in WA! Will now be able to make a note of that.
Thanks you also for Electoral Roll details of Margaret Ann Kenney. That is just great! : - ) Not having her death certificate at this stage we too are not sure if she and John KENNEY had children.
Many thanks Sue for all your help in helping me with my queries. : - ) Best wishes Denise.
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Thank you for FLAHERTY James death details. So he did die in WA! Will now be able to make a note of that.
Thanks you also for Electoral Roll details of Margaret Ann Kenney. That is just great! : - ) Not having her death certificate at this stage we too are not sure if she and John KENNEY had children.
I feel I must just add a little note of caution here ;D
Without purchasing the James FLAHERTY death certificate, you cannot be quite certain it is the right man.
And, again, without the certificate of the Margaret FLAHERTY in Melbourne, you cannot be sure of her identity either.
Who was the informant on the certificate of William McKenna?
Have you been in contact with Melbourne General Cemetery? I think you may find a lot from their burial records as it would have been the logical Cemetery for a family at Carlton and the "patriarch" is interred there.
Sue
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Hello again! : - )
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I feel I must just add a little note of caution here
Without purchasing the James FLAHERTY death certificate, you cannot be quite certain it is the right man.
And, again, without the certificate of the Margaret FLAHERTY in Melbourne, you cannot be sure of her identity either.
I understand and in time we shall purchase the death certificates for both persons above. At times it becomes a little expensive, however, we indeed will as to confirm we have all correct and in order. : - )
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Who was the informant on the certificate of William McKenna?
The informant was his Daughter E McKenna = [Emma / Amy McKenna]
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Have you been in contact with Melbourne General Cemetery? I think you may find a lot from their burial records as it would have been the logical Cemetery for a family at Carlton and the "patriarch" is interred there.
I emailed Melbourne General Cemetery just this moment to attain location details etc for William & Margaret McKenna. Thanks for prompting me to do so.
Once again thank you kindly Sue.
Best wishes, Denise.
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Hi Sue,
Just thought I'd share the following with you.
Best wishes, Denise.
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Surname: MCKENNA
Given Names: Hubert Owen Michl
Event: D
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Mckenna Jas
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Nellie BROWN
Age: 1
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place: Melb S
Year: 1905
Dear Denise
Thanks for your enquiry into the late McKenna family I have found the following information.
LOCATION OF GRAVE ROMAN CATHOLIC COMPARTMENT Q GRAVE 432
PEOPLE IN GRAVE
WILLIAM MCKENNA DATE OF SERVICE 6/1/1883 AGE 57
MARGARET MCKENNA DATE OF SERVICE 2/8/1902 AGE 70
HERBERT O MCKENNA DATE OF SERVICE 10/7/1905
Regards, Briony Minehan Client Services Administrator Melbourne General Cemetery.
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Hi Denise,
Good that you have those burial details.
I feel there will be more of your people at Melb. General and, if it were me, I would be asking for a search for each of the people for whom you have a death date, including AGNES -who is not, by the way, interred at Ballarat.
Sometimes we find unexpected others buried at a site and that way discoveries and connections are made. George may even be there :D
Sue
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Hi Denise
I am Joanny McKenna great granddaughter of
William and Margaret McKenna.
William and Margaret were married on the Island of Guernsey
on 1852.
I obtained the information from Priaulx Library, Guernsey.
What is your connection with William McKenna?
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There is a digitised will for William MCKENNA, saddler, of 31 Alfred St, Emerald Hill, d 6 Jan, 1883.
The Will was only made the day before his death and he leaves all to his wife Margaret MCKENNA (2 houses @29 and 31 Alfred St, part paid for)
prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
judith
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Hi Judith thanks for the info I do have a copy of the will but
didn't realise, William made the will the day before he died or the
houses were part paid.
Thanks again Joanny