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Title: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: taggg on Sunday 28 July 13 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi

trying to find info on a fatal shipyard accident involving James Caldwell in Govan  in May 1949.
apparently hit by crane?

regards

William
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 28 July 13 10:12 BST (UK)
What was the actual date? It probably made it into the newspapers.
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: sancti on Sunday 28 July 13 10:31 BST (UK)
Is the info on the RCE with his death certificate?
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 28 July 13 10:42 BST (UK)
I have just looked up the on-line catalogue of the National Archives of Scotland and if you put James Caldwell and 1949 into the search boxes, it comes up with reference SC36/1949/35, Glasgow Sheriff Court records (off site, have to be ordered in in advance) - fatal accident inquiry - James Caldwell, ship's goods checker, 63 Barnes Road, Glasgow, died 12th May 1949.
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: taggg on Sunday 28 July 13 10:51 BST (UK)
GR2

Thats the correct one, found it on the site but don`t see anythink about the cost of getting the record?
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: sancti on Sunday 28 July 13 11:09 BST (UK)
Did he die on the day of the accident?
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: taggg on Sunday 28 July 13 21:24 BST (UK)
No i think the accident may have happened a few days before as on death extract multiple injuries 2 days, looks like hummenia 1 day and looks like snamothorax 2 days then cardiac failure.

date of death 12 May 1949, 10:30pm, 1301 Govan Rd, Usual address 63 Barnes Rd Glasgow

Living at 63 Barnes Rd sighned off by Elizabeth Caldwell Widow
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: ITBookworm on Monday 29 July 13 12:27 BST (UK)
GR2

Thats the correct one, found it on the site but don`t see anythink about the cost of getting the record?

From my understanding you have 2 options to see the record.

1) request the record is brought to the main archives - the off-site reference means it isn't there at the moment (I can't remember if there is an option to do this on the web site or you need to phone them) and then arrange to go in to the archives and look at it. I don't think there should be a cost for this option

2) request a quote for the copying of the record and if you are willing to pay the amount they quote, pay them and they will photocopy the record and send it to you in the post. I think there is a minimum charge to get the quote but if you go ahead that is taken off the total.

I have managed the 2nd option without too much trouble using the information on the site so the current prices and details should be there.
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: Rockford on Monday 29 July 13 13:02 BST (UK)
Hi,

I've had a look in the Scotsman archive for 1949 and nothing is jumping out in a search for his name.  I've also tried the (Glasgow) Herald on Google, but can't see anything there either.  I looked from 9 - 14th May.  If you want to double check, you can see the newspapers here:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19490509&b_mode=2&hl=en

Best wishes

Rockford
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: taggg on Monday 29 July 13 21:16 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info, will contact them to find out.

I have already looked through the Herald on Google and google shipyard accidents with no luck.

Thanks to everyone for their help

Regards

William
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: happymom on Friday 03 August 18 13:15 BST (UK)
This was my grandfather! Wow, can't believe I stumbled across this. I was on a Glasgow site searching Barnes Road as I've just found a postcard to my mum addressed to 63 barnes Road and I had no idea she lived there. Then I came across this article. I never met my Grandfather as I wasn't born when he died but my mum said he was a lovely man. I didn't know the date of his death or anything so this has been so enlightening.
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: Skoosh on Friday 03 August 18 22:38 BST (UK)
The Glasgow Herald might not be the best for this. The Evening Times or Citizen or the Daily Record might be a better bet if they're archived online.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: taggg on Sunday 12 August 18 22:07 BST (UK)
Hi Happymom,

Do you have any other info on the Caldwell family, pics etc by any chance James is my wifes grandfather as well.

Wm
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 12 August 18 22:20 BST (UK)
No i think the accident may have happened a few days before as on death extract multiple injuries 2 days, looks like hummenia 1 day and looks like snamothorax 2 days then cardiac failure.
the 2 days one will be pneumothorax but I'm not sure about the 1 day one - could it be pneumonia?

You could always post an extract here and let us see if we can decipher it.
Title: Re: James Caldwell Shipyard Accident 1949
Post by: happymom on Sunday 12 August 18 22:35 BST (UK)
Hi there taggg

I have photos of the family including my gran and my mums brothers and sisters so your wifes mum/dad will be on them. Who is it? She must be the daughter of Bill, Betty or Jim and hence we are cousins. I'm not sure about James on the photos because I don't know what he looks like but if I check out the photo's before my mum was 13 then he will possibly be on them.