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Title: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: jimnic on Friday 26 July 13 04:44 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me to find Mary Ann CARR. She married James WARREN 26th January 1835 Tasmania. She is a mystery, where she came from. Her parents.  ;D thanx.    jimnic.
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Friday 26 July 13 05:24 BST (UK)
There is a family tree on *A* that gives a James Macy Warren, a convict, who married 26 Jan 1835 at Port Sorrell, Tasmania a Mary Ann Carr
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: judb on Friday 26 July 13 05:42 BST (UK)
Hi jimnic

According to the Tas records, James WARREN, arr on the Mary, applied for permission to marry Mary Ann CARR in December 1834.  She had come to Tasmania as a free person. No other details  :(

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=5

Judith
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: judb on Friday 26 July 13 05:50 BST (UK)
Looking at the arrivals list, again on Tas records there is no Mary Ann CARR listed, however there this possible, although it's a bit of a long shot. 

D A C G Carr,& Mrs & child, ship Henry   arr 11 Sep 1830, Ref CUS30/1/1 P18

Also, perhaps, she may have arrived as the child (or wife) of a military man.

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=91

Judith
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: keinname on Friday 26 July 13 06:23 BST (UK)
There are these following threads about Mary Ann Carr and her husband James Warren. Please note that the first thread says that Mary Ann Carr may have arrived in aboard the Barque "Merope". Can someone else on rootschat reseach that one?
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: majm on Friday 26 July 13 06:59 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Welcome to Rootschat  jimnic  :)


Here's a live link to the fantastic Resources Board for Tasmania

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369953.0.html

I think the many live links within that Resources board will help you, and may well also help keinname to find answers to the question "Can someone else on rootschat research that one?"

Cheers,  JM

There are these following threads about Mary Ann Carr and her husband James Warren. Please note that the first thread says that Mary Ann Carr may have arrived in aboard the Barque "Merope". Can someone else on rootschat reseach that one?
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: sparrett on Friday 26 July 13 07:31 BST (UK)
I am not of the opinion that working through the findings of other searchers on other forums  will be a real help. Online requests and family searches do not always amount to fact, any more than our findings here on R’chat may, and some have found them to be be quite misleading.
 
We all know of course about the dubiousness of online family trees as a basis for genealogy.  Very unsound.(unless certification is viewable)

I am only sorry I am not well equipped with Tasmanian resources as it would be a very worthwhile exercise I think to “start from scratch” with this particular man and his wife.

Perhaps those in the group with such privately held reference material will see the post and come up with something helpful. ;D

Sue
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: Dundee on Friday 26 July 13 14:25 BST (UK)
There is a family tree on *A* that gives a James Macy Warren, a convict, who married 26 Jan 1835 at Port Sorrell, Tasmania a Mary Ann Carr

Well, for a start they weren't married in Port Sorell, they were married in Sorell.  Two different places at opposite ends of Tassie.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35347-2741-59?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-9CJ:1789920630

I cannot see a marriage for anyone else named CARR in that area so perhaps she didn't have siblings nearby.

The only evidence I can find of any children to this couple is daughter Mary Ann baptised in 1836.  James was a Constable at York Plains which tallys with his conduct record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-35349-20528-30?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-9CW:n1865263700

A man named William CARR died at Sorell in 1852 aged 64.  There was an inquest but no family mentioned.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35346-8963-19?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-96C:n1405609716

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 27 July 13 01:46 BST (UK)



There is a family tree on *A* that gives a James Macy Warren, a convict, who married 26 Jan 1835 at Port Sorrell, Tasmania a Mary Ann Carr

Well, for a start they weren't married in Port Sorell, they were married in Sorell.  Two different places at opposite ends of Tassie.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35347-2741-59?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-9CJ:1789920630

I cannot see a marriage for anyone else named CARR in that area so perhaps she didn't have siblings nearby.

The only evidence I can find of any children to this couple is daughter Mary Ann baptised in 1836.  James was a Constable at York Plains which tallys with his conduct record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-35349-20528-30?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-9CW:n1865263700

A man named William CARR died at Sorell in 1852 aged 64.  There was an inquest but no family mentioned.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35346-8963-19?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-96C:n1405609716

Debra  :)

Hi
If the information from Deb relates to the man who was the husband of Mary Ann CARR, and father of the daughter in 1836, these snips may be relevant as they relate to a Constable WARREN in the region of York Plains, Sorrell and Hobart.


Constable Warren about his duties in 1836
 
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vht/

Colonial Times, Tuesday 26 January 1836


Still mentioned in news in 1861

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vhu/

The Mercury,Tuesday 19 November 1861

Sue



Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania
Post by: TasTyger on Monday 29 July 13 13:00 BST (UK)
If its a case of building the family from scratch the 1842 (Richmond) census gives you some clues as to the size of the Warren household at Sorell with 3 children being in residence -

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10

Cheers,

Peter
Title: Re: Mary Ann CARR Tasmania and James Warren CONVICT....
Post by: kirkw on Wednesday 23 October 13 09:05 BST (UK)
Dear JIMNIC and others

Well well well if James is your 3rd grandpa we are related as he is my forebear who arrived in Tasmania in 1829 off the ship Mary. The Warren family in Australia has many branches but mine is straight line via the first son of each generation to James.

I have the whole history in Australia down to me and mine. I also have contact with Surrey History Centre where the original court records are.

I have yet to get the UK.

This is a great family history day. Lets get acquainted and start sharing. I will read all the posts asap on this site which I only discovered today

Cheers