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Title: James WARREN convict
Post by: jimnic on Thursday 25 July 13 22:17 BST (UK)
My 3rd Gr Granpa was James WARREN. Born in Mitcham, Carshalton, Surry in 1807/8.
1830 9th April, Age 22. Arrival Tasmania. ex the SS MARY 2 from England. Given LIFE.Prisoner 1044.
1828 October, Age 20, Tried in the County of Surrey for receiving stolen goods. Acquitted. Surrey England.
1828, October, Age 20. Arrival County of Surrey, Six months goal. Residence Surrey, England.

What family did he leave behind ??
Title: Re: James WARREN convict
Post by: giblet on Thursday 25 July 13 23:42 BST (UK)
As you would know there are a few Warren's on the same ship as your James.

What i found interesting tho is that James and George both noted as having red hair. Wonder if there is a family connection there as i wouldnt think you would have to many Warren's, from the same area, on the same ship with red hair.

73665    Warren    George             10 Apr 1830    Mary (2)    18 Dec 1829    London
http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/c31a31460014
   
73673    Warren    James             10 Apr 1830    Mary (2)    18 Dec 1829    London
http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/c31a31460015   
Both have red hair.
Title: Re: James WARREN convict
Post by: Mark1973 on Friday 26 July 13 13:23 BST (UK)
Not having much luck finding any Warrens in Mitcham, Mitcham and Carshalton are 2 separate towns in Surrey, quite close to eachother though. Will try and find some Carshalton records.
Title: Re: James WARREN convict
Post by: Mark1973 on Friday 26 July 13 13:31 BST (UK)
Interestingly I found a james Warren born around the same time found guilty at the age of 15 in 1824 and transported for 7 years.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18240916-170&div=t18240916-170&terms=james|warren#highlight
Title: Re: James WARREN convict
Post by: kirkw on Wednesday 07 May 14 05:47 BST (UK)
Dear james warren hunters can I throw in a perspective.

The James warren we want stole a goose from the Howard family in surrey area. History tells us that the de warrene family from will the conqueror morphed into the Howard's over time who are still earls. So my theory james family peasents who lived near and or worked for Howard estate. So who knows about Howard's in the area and try and track their family history to cross reference james family. Cheers. Ps the actual court records sit in surrey historical society and name howard as the aggrieved party.

Cheers