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Title: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: cath24 on Wednesday 24 July 13 06:44 BST (UK)
HYA
looking for any information about WILLIAM WRAY, born...i believe in EASINGWOLD, north yorkshire? late 1800's, maybe 1890's/early 1900.....
any information be great

cath
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 24 July 13 07:07 BST (UK)
Do you have any more information on him?

There are more than 20 possibilities born 1870-1911! ;D
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: cath24 on Wednesday 24 July 13 07:36 BST (UK)
morning
wow- 20!

i havent much- just he had a son in c1931,which could indicate born early 1900's and he worked as a fisherman

cath :)
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 24 July 13 07:47 BST (UK)
Those 20+ were all North Yorkshire, and none in Easingwold.

I think you have to start from basics here:
You have the birth in 1931, so you know mother's maiden name.
From that you should be able to find the marriage (using FreeBMD).

The marriage certificate will show you the father's names, and ages of the happy couple.

From that you should be able to find the family in 1911 or 1901 census.
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: cath24 on Wednesday 24 July 13 08:01 BST (UK)
thanks...will try and find out more info....:)
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Nic15 on Friday 26 July 13 22:32 BST (UK)
Hi

I now know the mothers maiden name was Hawkswell and I believe William died in 1945 as Richard was 14 when he died.

I'm very new to this so any help where to start would be great

William was married beforealso however don't have any of the details

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Nic15 on Friday 26 July 13 22:35 BST (UK)
Hi

It was Richard who was born in Easinwold in 1931 however don't know where William was born

Thanks
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 July 13 06:47 BST (UK)
Who is Richard?
What is the connection to William?

OK. Found Richard's birth - December qtr 1931.
There's a sister Eileen, born December qtr 1930.

Not seeing a death for William? Where did he die?
Not seeing a marriage, either?

If I were you, I would buy the Birth Certificate for Richard?
That will at least give you the full names of mum & dad.
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Nic15 on Saturday 27 July 13 07:31 BST (UK)
Hi

Richard was son of William
Richard was one of 6 children born to William Wray
William married Mini Hawkswell but don't know where or what year
There were 6 or 7 children however some of them are still living

I will apply for Richards birth certificate if unable to get hold of it and then start to work back from there.

Thanks
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 27 July 13 07:35 BST (UK)
Minnie's surname is spelled differently on the marriage index:

Marriages Dec 1928
HAUXWELL  Minnie
WRAY  William
Lancaster 8e 1388

(This is also the spelling on a couple of the children's birth registrations.)
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 July 13 07:55 BST (UK)
Ah! Thanks MR!
Amazing how easy it gets once you have a few more facts! ;D

Still don't understand why a soundex search didn't treat Hawkeswell and Hauxwell the same? ???

Nic15 - a better bet now would be that marriage certificate.
That would give you father's names, and ages of William & Minnie.
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 27 July 13 07:57 BST (UK)
Quote
Still don't understand why a soundex search didn't treat Hawkeswell and Hauxwell the same?

Nor do I! 
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 July 13 08:02 BST (UK)
I found a birth for Minnie Hauxwell, Durham, 1897?
But she died in the same quarter. :(
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 27 July 13 08:05 BST (UK)
I think it might be this one (another spelling variant!)

Births Dec 1905
HAWXWELL  Minnie
Scarbro' 9d 350
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 July 13 08:22 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has Minnie born in Muston.
Parents Johnson Hawxwell and Rachel Wood; marriage December qtr 1895.
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Nic15 on Saturday 27 July 13 08:46 BST (UK)
Hi

Thanks for that.

If I want to do this properly which I do would it benefit me to join something like Ancestry and pay a monthly fee to then be able to find information easier.

As a novice I don't really know the best way to go about this ?
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 July 13 09:46 BST (UK)
Ancestry, and FindMyPast, offer 14-day free trials!
You have to sign up first, giving debit/credit card details - but as long as you cancel before the end of 14 days, it's free!

With both of these, you really need to get back to 1911 (the latest available census) to find records.
Also, treat the trees with a HUGE pinch of salt! Many people just copy info from other trees, and don't check if it's accurate! ::)

FreeBMD.org.uk is the place to go for the Birth, Marriage, Death Indexes.
Volunteer-run, coverage is excellent up to 1940's.
Once you have a reference from there, you can order certificates from GRO.

FamlySearch is also free (use the Search button) and offers very good coverage - particularly earlier.

Don't forget to ask relatives for information! Names, dates, places - even bits of scandal!

And ask questions here on RootsChat!
We were all beginners once, and we all had to learn ;D
If you do ask a question, please include all relevant information.
It is much easier for us (and you) to find someone if we know where and when they were born, married or died. Spouse names also help, as do children and parents names - anything really! ;D

For example, "William Wray" is a popular combination of names, particularly in Yorkshire.
Knowing his father's name and approx year of birth would help enormously! ;D

Above all - have fun! ;D ;D
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Nic15 on Saturday 27 July 13 11:09 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for this info

Richard Bernard Wray 11/11/31 was my father passed away 13/04/07 so I started looking for his father William Wray however don't know alot about him as he died when my dad was 14

I know he married Minnie Hauxwell when she was about 19 but don't have her dob

So as you said I will try get birth very for my dad and go from there

I tried the free bdm site but couldn't find anything however will try again

Looking forward to what I may find out about my history

 :)
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 27 July 13 11:48 BST (UK)
As with all searches - less is more!

For the marriage you need to look for:
Hauxwell
Minnie
Mar 1928 to Dec 1928

As Manchester Rambler said - they married in Lancaster district, Lancashire!

For births of the children, enter:
Surname: Wray, Mother's Maiden Name: Hawxwell      1 child born Lancaster 1929, 1 in Plymouth 1933
Surname: Wray, MMN: Hawkswell                              2 children in Easingwold, 1930 and 1931
Surname: Wray, MMN: Hauxwell                                1 child, Hartlepool 1935, 1 child Durham SE 1941
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: phillipthayne2020 on Friday 22 May 20 08:55 BST (UK)
Hello there, my great grandad is William Wray my great aunt Eileen told me that when William got with her mother Minnie Hauxwell she was around 20 years of age and that Minnie was his second wife and he was around 48 to 50 years old and had another 7 kids with Minnie. Now i know my Nana Maureen born in Plymouth Devon was 11 years of age when he died and he died around 75 years of age so he would of been born around 1875 ish. what im struggling with is his birth date and putting that into my ancestry tree i know that Richard had 2 children to my knowledge that is. my Nana Maureen had my mother Shirley, Ronald, and Susan. My great aunt Eileen when she was born my Great Grandad William bought a steam boat and named it Eileen Wray which ah she had shown me recently. if anyone of you has any idea on the birth of William Wray, please can you help me find it. i will also help anyone with any info that is needed as i have alot of info on them. Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: phillipthayne2020 on Friday 22 May 20 09:21 BST (UK)
sorry
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Pheno on Friday 22 May 20 10:42 BST (UK)
Rootschat has a no living person policy so if any of these people are still living - and they could be- then you need to remove their names from the list.

Pheno
Title: Re: William WRAY - Hartlepool, Easingwold
Post by: Borderer58 on Friday 22 May 20 21:49 BST (UK)
thanks...will try and find out more info....:)
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If you know when the child was born then from Sept 1911 the register also includes the mothers maiden name. If you have their marriage you will know the surname of both parties select a number of years and the district then just put in father and mothers maiden names and it will bring back the matches