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Title: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Wednesday 24 July 13 06:23 BST (UK)
Hi need to see if Alexander and Janet(t) Clark(e) Wylie were the parents of Andrew Wylie, b. 8/30/1801-4 ?
 Andrew married Agnes Pollock b.7/15/1800,  christened in Stewarton Ayr. 7/21/were her parents James and Agnes Gilmour, Pollock?

Andrew and Agnes Pollock, Wylie married in Stewarton Church of Scotland . 21/Feb/1826 He was a farm servant from Dunlop.

First child was Alexander b.8.Oct/1826 born Stewarton Ayr.
2nd child Agnes19/Jun/1829.

there should be 3-4 more kids I can't find.

Andrew and Agnes immigrated to Albion Mines now Stellarton Nova Scotia, Canada

They had one more son born there William.

I would love to find the immigration date?
I have sibling's that I think is Agnes Pollock and of Andrew Wylie but not real sure same family.
I have been to Andrew and Agnes headstone in Nova Scotia the reading says born Neilson Parish Scotland. They have a Grace named as daughter single age 20. I wondered why I can't find her birth in Scotland. I think they had 3 sons Alex the only for sure and 2 girls Agnes and could it be Grace? I have Andrews death 1875
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 24 July 13 11:02 BST (UK)
There's a marriage for an Andrew Pollock Wylie born 1871 in Stellarton: -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2G5-37Q
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: JMStrachan on Wednesday 24 July 13 11:11 BST (UK)
If it's any help, I have a coal mining ancestor from Ayrshire who migrated to Pictou, Nova Scotia in about 1832, but returned to Ayrshire a few years later. From the reading about it I've done, the late 1820s to early 1830s would be the most likely timing for your ancestor's migration, as there seems to have been a recruitment drive around then for coal miners.

Your Andrew Wylie does seem to be the one born 30 August 1804 at Neilston, Refrewshire to Alexander Wylie and Janet Clark. As Andrew named his eldest son Alexander then it is highly likely, as that would be the case if they'd followed the Scottish naming pattern.

There was coal mining at Neilston. Coal miners often moved around from mine to mine, so a move to Ayrshire some time after the birth of Andrew would fit with being a coal mining family.

From the records on FamilySearch it would seem Alexander Wylie and Janet Clark had a large family. Could be worthwhile tracking their children to see if any others migrated to Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 24 July 13 12:11 BST (UK)
I would say to you are on the right track.

From Familysearch we have to ALEXANDER and JANET nee Clark Born/Christened Neilston, Renfrew:
ALEXANDER 1795
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN 1802
ANDREW 1804
HUGH 1806
ELIZABETH 1809
JOHN 1812
JOHN 1814
DAVID 1816
(F/S)

Possible the same Children + others;
Marriages Church of Scotland Parish Church, Dunlop, Ayrshire
GRIZEL Wylie/ Robert KERR, 05 Feb 1822
ALEXR Wylie/Margt ROSS, 23 April 1822
ADAM Wylie/Jean GILMOUR, 29 March 1825
HUGH Wyllie/Margaret BROWN, 30 April 1827 ***
DAVID Wyllie/Jean FAULDS, 05 April 1831
MARTHA Wyllie/Andw PEACOCK, 29 March 1831

Source of Marriages FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk
In total 26 Marriages 1820's to 1850's on there are 62 Baptisms.
(Use soundex as some Wyllie, others Wylie)

*** HUGH/MARGARET Baptise a Child Janet Clark Wyllie in 1843 and a Alexander in 1838
Alexr/Margt name Children Grizzel in 1826/Janet 1825/Alexr 1830

Trish :)

Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 24 July 13 12:33 BST (UK)
You probably have this?

1841 Census
Shilford,
Neilson, Renfrewshire
Alexander WYLIE, 65, Coal M, born Renfrewshire
Janet Wylie, 60, born Scotland
Robert Wylie, 15, Ag Lab, born Renfrewshire
John HAMILTON, 15, born Renfrewshire

ROBERT Wylie Chr 09 March 1823, Neilston, Renfrew (Birth 25 Feb 1823)
Parents Alexander WYLIE and Jean CLARKE
(F/S.Org)

Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 24 July 13 12:45 BST (UK)
I posted Aexander/Grizel as Children of Alexander/Janet but cant find them anymore on F/S?.

Looks like its ok though;'
1841 Census,
Dunlop, Ayrshire
Robert Kerr, 40
Grisel Kerr,   40, born Scotland
Hugh Wylie, 3
Grace Wylie,14
John King,    15
William Kennedy, 20

1861 Grizel is born c 1801 Neilston. A Janet Wylie age 16 is with them.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: jonn on Wednesday 24 July 13 21:27 BST (UK)
The only births showing in Scotland, to parents named Andrew Wylie or Wyllie, and agnes Pollock, in that timeframe are as follows

Alexander Wylie, born 8/Oct/1826. Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Agnes Wylie, born 30/June/1829. Neilston, Renfrewshire,
Janet Wyllie, born 26/June/1831. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire,
Mary Wyllie, born 27/Oct/1837. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

Not all births in Scotland, prior to 1855. were registered or were indeed required to be registered, many births that were registered did not survive the course of time.

The three places you mention in your post ie Neilston, Dunlop, and Stewarton, are close to each other,

The marriage of Andrew Wylie, and Agnes Pollock, was noted in both Dunlop, and Stewarton, on the same date 21/Feb/1826. meaning that Andrew, and Agnes, were resident in those places at that time not neccesary born there, ie Andrew, perhaps Dunlop, and Agnes, perhaps Stewarton.

If you look at the order of the four births above ie first born etc, then those first three would fit the Scottish naming system for the period, ie Alexander, first born named after Andrew's, father from Neilston, second born Agnes, named after Agnes's, mother Agnes Gilmour, and third born Janet, named after Andrew's, mother Janet Clark.

Another possible clue Agnes Wylie, born 1829, was born in Neilston, just possible Andrew, and Agnes Pollock, were visiting Andrew's, parents at the time of birth.

There may also be other births to Andrew, and Agnes, that did not survive the test of time.

The above family do not appear on the 1841 census for Scotland, so a likely departure date would be sometime between 1837, and early 1841.

Regards,
Jonn.



Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Thursday 25 July 13 06:32 BST (UK)
Thank you for the quick reply. It was a surprise to see girls but I have info that matches Andrew son of Alexander and Agnes right dates. I thought there might be a couple more boy's and as you say there could be just not found at this point. Alexander and Janet I wonder did they immigrate as well? He was a miner as was son Andrew and Andrew's son William. I also think you are right about immigration around that time as William was born 1843-44. Also in Andrew's obituary it said yet another son Andrew that ended up in Pennsylvania USA. I can't find him. I'm looking for a cousin his dad died when he was only a couple month's old. His mom is very sick and she's happy I started him on his family tree of Wylie's. I'm so glad you helped . thank you,Barbara
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Thursday 25 July 13 06:49 BST (UK)
I posted Aexander/Grizel as Children of Alexander/Janet but cant find them anymore on F/S?.

Looks like its ok though;'
1841 Census,
Dunlop, Ayrshire
Robert Kerr, 40
Grisel Kerr,   40, born Scotland
Hugh Wylie, 3
Grace Wylie,14
John King,    15
William Kennedy, 20

1861 Grizel is born c 1801 Neilston. A Janet Wylie age 16 is with them.



Hi no I didn't have this piece. It was interesting that Alexander was a miner as well as his son Andrew and Andrew's son William. I remember dad's brother terrified to go into the pit's there were many lost their lives. It was wonderful when they started strip mining. thanks it does look like Alexander and Janet. I believe Hugh was a brother to Andrew as I have a Hugh married to ha ha will dig for it again tomorrow it's hiding :)
Oh I wonder if this Robert could be another son? the ROBERT Wylie Chr 09 March 1823, Neilston, Renfrew (Birth 25 Feb 1823)
Parents Alexander WYLIE and Jean CLARKE
What is (F/S) ?
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 25 July 13 13:59 BST (UK)
Hi,
F/S or F/S.Org is my abbreviation of Familysearch.Org

And yes it looks like Robert 1823 was another Son of Alexander/Janet an she is just down as Jean on his Chrsitening.
He also appears on the 1841 Census with them.

Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew
(F/S.Org)

You wondered if Alexander/Janet may have emigrated as well. They are still in Dunlop on 1841.
Given their ages I would think maybe not.

Have now found a Christening that I lost before;
Alexander WYLLIE
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950   
christening:   29 November 1795   NEILSTON, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
parents:Alexander Wyllie, Janet Clark

Trish :)

EDIT;
This looks like Janet;
1851 Census
Free Church Manse,
Dunlop, Ayrshire
Janet WYLLIE, 75 (1776), born Neilson, Renfrewshire

You can few this image for more detail on Scotlandspeople.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Also other records you can search for a very small fee.
There are 3 Alexander Wyliie Deaths on there 1841-1851
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 26 July 13 02:08 BST (UK)
Hi Trish there is a snag... Alexander the dad born     
Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew,
Janet WYLLIE, 75 (1776), born

Alexander Wylie, born 8/Oct/1826. Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Agnes Wylie, born 30/June/1829. Neilston, Renfrewshire,
Janet Wyllie, born 26/June/1831. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire,
Mary Wyllie, born 27/Oct/1837. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.


Alexander WYLLIE
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950   
christening:   29 November 1795   NEILSTON, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
parents: Alexander Wyllie, Janet Clark

ROBERT Wylie Chr 09 March 1823,
If Robert was first born then Alexander's Church  of Scotland record is wrong it says Alex 1st Agnes the 2nd.
 What do you think. It looks good but maybe Janet in this Alex was married to another  woman called JeanClark?
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 26 July 13 04:22 BST (UK)
Ok in my notes I see a 1861 census an Alexander and Janet he was born abt 1807 I Galston Ayrshire, Larnkshire I'm certain this is not my family. 

1881 census Alexander and Jean he born 1826 same as mine but can't be him as mine married a Margaret McKay in Nova Scotia Canada.

1901 census Alexander and Janet born about 1848 not mine by date but in right place Stewarton, Ayr. I wonder a next generation?
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 26 July 13 05:38 BST (UK)
Hi thank you Miriam he is the son of William and Margaret McKenzie Wylie. William was so far the only child of Andrew and Agnes Pollock Wylie (hence his middle name ) William born in Albion Mines (Stellarton now ) his family I have. He had a son Arthur who immigrated to go to Lincoln collage and he married a Laura Belle Brown he had no kids. Buried in Elwood cemetery I just got a picture of he and Laura's head stone. thanks for your reply. It's the Scotland side I can't complete. Arthur was published for his biography and he said hid grandfather Andrew and Agnes Pollock Wylie immigrated with 5 kids but another obituary said Andrew had up to 7-8 kids. So now think the first 4 are good match Scotland side. William and his dad Andrew were baker's and miners which was likely why he immigrated they recruited from the UK.I just type all of Agnes Pollock her dad James and mom Agnes Gilmour. And Andrew's siblings and hit wrong button Ach hate that :>)
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 26 July 13 07:35 BST (UK)
I'm a bit confused with your response?
Quote;
ROBERT Wylie Chr 09 March 1823,
If Robert was first born then Alexander's Church  of Scotland record is wrong it says Alex 1st Agnes the 2nd.
 What do you think. It looks good but maybe Janet in this Alex was married to another  woman called JeanClark?


From Familysearch we have to ALEXANDER and JANET nee Clark Born/Christened Neilston, Renfrew:
ALEXANDER 1795
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN 1802
ANDREW 1804
HUGH 1806
ELIZABETH 1809
JOHN 1812
JOHN 1814
DAVID 1816
(F/S)

From what I can see their last Child was ROBERT 1823, Mother is  Jean which is a another version of Janet.
Census seems to back this up in 1841where Alexnader/Janet/Robert are together and in 1851 Janet is likely Widowed.
Have you looked at the Census images on Scotlandspeople?
Looked for a Death for them on there?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Saturday 27 July 13 07:22 BST (UK)
Trish Andrew and Agnes didn't marry until
Andrew and Agnes Pollock, Wylie married in Stewarton Church of Scotland . 21/Feb/1826 He was a farm servant from Dunlop.
So Robert would of been not their's ?
Even Alex pushed in quickly unless they had him before marring?
I'm leaving for Nova Scotia very soon. I will try to get in here as soon as I can. Thanks for the great info,
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 27 July 13 10:33 BST (UK)
Huh?

Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew

ALEXANDER Wyllie, Christening:  29 November 1795, Neilson, Renfrew
Parents ALEXANDER Wyllie/ JANET Clark
Thats 10mths after the Marriage.

Yes, I am sure ROBERT 1823 is theirs also.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Thursday 01 August 13 19:54 BST (UK)
Hi Trish yes I seen it ...your right Alexander and Janet had this family but who is Gisel? I can't see your post until I check your post. thanks so muck.
Andrew,,Aug/30/1801
 Jean 6/Jun /1802
Hugh,16th Nov 1804
Alex 1806
Elizabeth Aug//1809
John 21/Jun/1812
Robert 25/Feb/1823

oddly I see John as Jan 1814 as well not sure if different or same fellow...I only have internet at Library will check in as I can. Oh my post was to tell you It is Alexander and Janet Clark's son Andrew and his wife Agnes Pollock Wylie's family I'm trying to find as they immigrated with up to mabye 5 kids and William born in Nova Scotia.


Title: Re: Alexander wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 03 January 14 06:17 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information on ALEXANDER WYLIE christened on 6-7-1791 in Dunlop, Ayreshire, Scotland. His father was JOHN WYLIE and his mother was MARGARET ???. The IGI says her last name was Wylie but I doubt it.

Alexander's siblings were: JEAN, DAVID, JANET, MARY, ELIZABETH, JOHN, AGNES, and ANNE.

 the old churchyard has quite a few Wylie graves but no one  recalls a Wylie family living in Dunlop save for one gentleman who told me that they had a farm on the Dunlop Estate next to Dunlop House. Any help would be appreciated.




Alexander was married to Janet Clark.Can any one tell me Alexander's parents were John and Margaret? Wylie.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Thursday 09 January 14 04:07 GMT (UK)
I wonder if GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800 could be the Grace?
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: Joyful on Thursday 09 January 14 06:51 GMT (UK)
 www.whatsinaname.net (http://www.whatsinaname.net) records Grace as a

derivative of Grizel.

HTH

Joy
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 10 January 14 00:33 GMT (UK)
Was hoping so :) thank you.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 10 January 14 01:58 GMT (UK)
I wonder does any one else get as confused as I do... I'm legally blind and miss a lot of info along the way.  My questions are. If this list is Alexander's siblings and it looks good but can't get Scotland's people to reach my email I think my inbox is full my kids will have to rescue me :) Any way I'm sorry to post long entry but wanted you to see I have been searching for awhile now and can't go back further then Alexander Wylie.Any direction thanked. If any one needs help and I can help UI can at least try for you :)
  ALEXANDER WYLIE  Name: Alexander Wylie
Sex: M
Birth: 1776 in Renfrewshire
Death: ABT 1850
Occupation: 1841 Coal Miner
Residence: 1841 Shilford   christened on 6-7-1791  (

How can he be born 1776  be christened in 1791 and marry in 17 Jan 1795
 Dunlop, Ayreshire, Scotland
siblings were: JEAN, DAVID, JANET, MARY, ELIZABETH, JOHN, AGNES, and ANNE.

Then he married Janet Clark

1841 Census- Robert Wylie is staying with him- he is aged 15, unlikely to be a son, no relationship noted in census. Alex is 65 and Janet is 60

Neither appears in the 1851 census so they may well have been dead
Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew  Janet born (1776-1781), someone thought in Outwith? But how could Alexander and Janet be born and married same years...I somehow think maybe they a generation back? Can any one see what I mean.

Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew

ALEXANDER Wyllie, Christening:  29 November 1795, Neilson, Renfrew
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN  Jun/06/1802
ANDREW 30/ SEP/1804
HUGH 16/ NOV /1806
ELIZABETH 3 /SEP /1809
JOHN 21 /JUN /1812
JOHN  13 /FEB /1814
DAVID 1816
Robert 25/Feb/1823

Then son Hugh married Margaret Brown in Dunlop. Margaret Brown ABT 1840, daughter of William Brown and Annie Bryce. She was born 15 AUG 1816 in Dunlop, Ayrshire, and died 5 MAY 1895 in Dunlop Village.Name: Hugh Wylie
Sex: M
Birth: 16 NOV 1806 in Neilston
Death: 14 OCT 1888 in Dunlop Village of Heart Disease for several years
Occupation: 1887 Mason
Occupation: 1841 Journeyman Mason
Occupation: 1860 Mason
Residence: 1841 Dunlop Village
Residence: 1861 14 Main Street, Dunlop
Residence: 1871 Dunlop Village
Note:

    1841 Census Details

    Staying with his wife Margaret Brown in Dunlop. She was aged 20. Says he is 30 but that age has been rounded down as was the custom. Doesn't appear to be anyone else staying with them

    Matthew Mair, son in law singed death cert

    1861 Census
    Staying in Dunlop with wife Margaret and daughters Jane and Mary

    1871 Census
    Staying in Dunlop Main Street with Margaret and 9 yr old daughter along with two lodgers

    In the OPR High's dob is given as 1806 so the age given on the death cert is wrong. Hugh was 82 when he died.
Hugh's daughter Name: Jane Wylie
Sex: F
Birth: 1853 in Dunlop, Ayrshire
Death: 11 JUL 1887 in Barrhead of Entritis (inflammation of the bowels)
Residence: 1861 14 Main Street, Dunlop
Note: 1861- staying with parents in Dunlop at 14 Main Street



Marriage 1 James Cunningham b: 4 SEP 1855 in Stewarton, Ayrshire

    Married: 8 JUN 1877 in Dunlop

Children
 David Cunningham b: 1878 in Dunlop, Ayrshire
  Maggie (Meg) Cunningham b: 1881 in Dunlop, Ayrshire
   Hugh Cunningham b: 1883 in Dunlop, Ayrshir
 Janet Cunningham b: 31 MAY 1887 in Main Street, Barrhead or Dunlop
Andrew married Agnes Pollock her dad James her mom Agnes Gilmour can't find that record either... ok their kids were,,,   Andrews marriage...And Agnes listed in Stewarton Church of Scotland  21/Feb/1826

Alexander Wylie, born 8/Oct/1826. Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Agnes Wylie, born 30/June/1829. Neilston, Renfrewshire,
Janet Wyllie, born 26/June/1831. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire,
Mary Wyllie, born 27/Oct/1837. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Thursday 16 January 14 05:27 GMT (UK)
I would say to you are on the right track.

From Familysearch we have to ALEXANDER and JANET nee Clark Born/Christened Neilston, Renfrew:
ALEXANDER 1795
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN 1802
ANDREW 1804
HUGH 1806
ELIZABETH 1809
JOHN 1812
JOHN 1814
DAVID 1816
(F/S)

Possible the same Children + others;
Marriages Church of Scotland Parish Church, Dunlop, Ayrshire
GRIZEL Wylie/ Robert KERR, 05 Feb 1822
ALEXR Wylie/Margt ROSS, 23 April 1822
ADAM Wylie/Jean GILMOUR, 29 March 1825
HUGH Wyllie/Margaret BROWN, 30 April 1827 ***
DAVID Wyllie/Jean FAULDS, 05 April 1831
MARTHA Wyllie/Andw PEACOCK, 29 March 1831

Source of Marriages FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk
In total 26 Marriages 1820's to 1850's on there are 62 Baptisms.
(Use soundex as some Wyllie, others Wylie)

*** HUGH/MARGARET Baptise a Child Janet Clark Wyllie in 1843 and a Alexander in 1838
Alexr/Margt name Children Grizzel in 1826/Janet 1825/Alexr 1830

Trish :)
   


 I have been trying to track these Wylies. This Hugh has to be Andrews brother who married Margaret Brown in Dunlop.....

It would fit name wise as their child Janet Clark was his mom's names. Now we figured Grizzel is Grace.   

 Adam Wylie

Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
   
marriage:    29 March 1825    Dunlop,Ayr,Scotland
   
spouse:    Jean Gilmour

Adam ? married Jean Gilmour... His name doesn't follow any Adam at all but Agnes Gilmour was Agnes Pollock Wylie's mothers maiden name...

Alexander Wylie
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    
Christening Place:    , DUNLOP, AYR, SCOTLAND
Birth Date:    07 Jul 1826
Birthplace:    , Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
Death Date:    
Name Note:    
Race:    
Father's Name:    Adam Wylie
Father's Birthplace:    
Father's Age:    
Mother's Name:    Jean Gilmour
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Tuesday 04 February 14 03:57 GMT (UK)
If it's any help, I have a coal mining ancestor from Ayrshire who migrated to Pictou, Nova Scotia in about 1832, but returned to Ayrshire a few years later. From the reading about it I've done, the late 1820s to early 1830s would be the most likely timing for your ancestor's migration, as there seems to have been a recruitment drive around then for coal miners.

Your Andrew Wylie does seem to be the one born 30 August 1804 at Neilston, Refrewshire to Alexander Wylie and Janet Clark. As Andrew named his eldest son Alexander then it is highly likely, as that would be the case if they'd followed the Scottish naming pattern.

There was coal mining at Neilston. Coal miners often moved around from mine to mine, so a move to Ayrshire some time after the birth of Andrew would fit with being a coal mining family.

From the records on FamilySearch it would seem Alexander Wylie and Janet Clark had a large family. Could be worthwhile tracking their children to see if any others migrated to Nova Scotia.
                           


Hi I guess they must of been after the wave of immigration to Albion Mines,Nova Scotia because this child Mary Wyllie, born 27/Oct/1837. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire. So it would be after that date. I have went through so many ships list it hard on sight :) I seen a few that stated miners to Albion Mines earlier date and it said departed from Ireland or Eng I'm not seeing any Scottish miners mentioned.thanks for the info it did help..:)
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 20 February 15 02:48 GMT (UK)
Hi thank you JC. I am very interested in your miner Andrew Wylie who went to Canada and then back to Scotland. I know Andrew born 1801 have seen his birth year 1801/1803. I seen his head stone in Stellarton. The fellow you mention could be family do you see more info on your fellow? I looked at Ships and can guess it was before 1843-44 unless the news article on Arthur Morton Wylie a grand son who did so many jobs a Pharmacist in Amherst can't find that or the fact he moved to Illinois to run his Uncle a McKenzie's lumber mill. He married but had no kids.It was that article that told his grand fathers family came to Nova Scotia...from Scotland and the number of kids no names.His father Alexander was a miner in Shifford.This is Alexander Andrew 1801 father..

Looking for the John and Margaret his parents.

.Name: Alexander Wylie
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1791
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1791
Baptism Place: , Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
Father: John Wylie
Mother: Margaret Wylie
FHL Film Number: 1041341
Reference ID: 2:16CVZJG                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Indiana, Select Marriages, 1780-1992
Name: Arthur Morton Wylie
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Age: 33
Birth Date: 13 Nov 1874
Birth Place: Stellarton, Nova Scotia
Marriage Date: 16 Sep 1908
Marriage Place: Anderson, Madison, Indiana
FHL Film Number: 2108432
Reference ID: bk 2 p 207
Household Members:
Name
Margaret Mclean
William Wylie
Arthur Morton Wylie
Laura Belle Brown
Elmetta Dowds
Harry M. Brown
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 16 June 23 02:43 BST (UK)
There's a marriage for an Andrew Pollock Wylie born 1871 in Stellarton: -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2G5-37Q

This Andrew Pollock was the grandson of Andrew I'm searching. William was one of Andrew and Agnes sons born in Nova Scotia. He married Margaret McKenzie and named a son Andrew Pollock Wylie. Andrew married Louise Procter thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 16 June 23 02:46 BST (UK)
Hi,
F/S or F/S.Org is my abbreviation of Familysearch.Org

And yes it looks like Robert 1823 was another Son of Alexander/Janet an she is just down as Jean on his Chrsitening.
He also appears on the 1841 Census with them.

Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew
(F/S.Org)

You wondered if Alexander/Janet may have emigrated as well. They are still in Dunlop on 1841.
Given their ages I would think maybe not.

Have now found a Christening that I lost before;
Alexander WYLLIE
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950   
christening:   29 November 1795   NEILSTON, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
parents:Alexander Wyllie, Janet Clark

Trish :)

EDIT;
This looks like Janet;
1851 Census
Free Church Manse,
Dunlop, Ayrshire
Janet WYLLIE, 75 (1776), born Neilson, Renfrewshire

You can few this image for more detail on Scotlandspeople.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Also other records you can search for a very small fee.
There are 3 Alexander Wyliie Deaths on there 1841-1851
thanks for clearing this up about Alexander and Janet dying there.
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 16 June 23 02:57 BST (UK)
I'm a bit confused with your response?
Quote;
ROBERT Wylie Chr 09 March 1823,
If Robert was first born then Alexander's Church  of Scotland record is wrong it says Alex 1st Agnes the 2nd.
 What do you think. It looks good but maybe Janet in this Alex was married to another  woman called JeanClark?


From Familysearch we have to ALEXANDER and JANET nee Clark Born/Christened Neilston, Renfrew:
ALEXANDER 1795
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN 1802
ANDREW 1804
HUGH 1806
ELIZABETH 1809
JOHN 1812
JOHN 1814
DAVID 1816
(F/S)                                                       



From what I can see their last Child was ROBERT 1823, Mother is  Jean which is a another version of Janet.
Census seems to back this up in 1841where Alexnader/Janet/Robert are together and in 1851 Janet is likely Widowed.
Have you looked at the Census images on Scotlandspeople?
Looked for a Death for them on there?

Trish :)
hi there just found my way back to this site lost the link... Yes the list you gave is the right Andrew born 1804. I can not connect Robert born 1823 as Andrew and Agnes Pollock Wylie's son? The Church of Scotland has Alexander 1826 then Agnes as 2nd child. So Robert isn't theirs ...I will try to look at Scotlandspeople I have had no luck previously...
Title: Re: Andrew wylie
Post by: bluenoser on Friday 16 June 23 03:00 BST (UK)
www.whatsinaname.net (http://www.whatsinaname.net) records Grace as a

derivative of Grizel.

HTH

Joy
  yes Grace was only 20 not married when she dies in Pictou County. She is on Andrew and Agnes headstone in Duff Cementery.