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Title: henry downes
Post by: darcy2 on Wednesday 24 July 13 05:07 BST (UK)
henry downes d. Brisbane 1933
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 24 July 13 06:47 BST (UK)
??????  I looked at this cos I am researching Downes of Lancashire. 

But dont get the query?  No information?

xin
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: darcy2 on Sunday 28 July 13 02:16 BST (UK)
No  Downes connection in  U.K.
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 28 July 13 06:35 BST (UK)
I don't get it either!

What is the question here?

Or is this just a statement that Henry Downes was born in Brisbane in 1933?
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: darcy2 on Sunday 28 July 13 08:49 BST (UK)
Searching for any information re Henry Downes d. Brisbane 1933
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 09:17 BST (UK)
Hi

There's a death record for 19 April 1933, Queensland.
Father - Dennis (Downes)
Mother -  Elizabeth Hughes
Reg No. - B020396

Gadget
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 28 July 13 09:25 BST (UK)
Who do you have Henry as marrying?

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 09:32 BST (UK)
Poss parents marriage -  Elizabeth Hughes to a Denison William Downes, 1851, Victoria
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 28 July 13 09:36 BST (UK)
Your queries and answers are very abrupt.   Sorry, but we want to help and without your input just cannot do so...

AS for no LINK in UK   how do you know that without further information, we have Downes going out to Australia very early on and there just may be a link there!!!
Not trying to sound 'Off' here.  Just attempting to help. 

So you GIVE us as much as you have and then we will respond better.

thanks


xin :)
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 09:40 BST (UK)
Hi Xin  :)

If the info I've just  given about his parents is correct, I think you have to go back to before 1851 to maybe find a UK link.

Maybe it might be best if this was moved to Australia first.

Gadget
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Finley 1 on Sunday 28 July 13 09:45 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget, appreciated...

I have my Downes (enormous family 18 children!!!!) in a file at the moment - (cos the suns out  ;))
so will 'away' for now. 
But Darcy if you do find a link to UK ... then message me and I can fill you in on what I have......
 ;)

xin
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 09:52 BST (UK)
Found a bit more that may or may not be of use:

An online tree has Denison William Downes b 1827 and dying 1886, Leichart, NSW, aged 59.*

* added - spouse - Elizabeth Hughes (1835-1921)

Parents - William Denis Downes, b. Cork or London! (1801- 1865) and Mary Ann Driscoll b. London (1804-1891)




full details on Mundia.com


Gadget
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 10:13 BST (UK)
If Elizabeth Hughes and Dennis/Denison Downes were his parents, the nearest that I can get to a birth for Henry is their first son -  listed as William Henry Downes, b. 1853, Melbourne.

The tree has him marrying an Elizabeth Dobbie 1 April 1879, Sydney.

* but another tree has the same fellow marrying a Marie Bressow in Brisbane (St John's) 27 Feb 1875; she dying in April of that year.

Think I'll leave it there for now!


Gadget
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: majm on Sunday 28 July 13 12:57 BST (UK)
mPlease type up all the info from his  QLD dc.   These are immediately available viaD BDM online ordering via Plastic card.

Should give when/where born,occupation, both parents full/former names,   Name of  spouse/s children of any marriage/s  his usual address cause of death, how long in colonies/state, funeral director

This will help to find / verify/confirm/eliminate other sightings for chaps named Henry Downes.
Cheers JM

Searching for any information re Henry Downes d. Brisbane 1933
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi majm

Did you not see the entry that I put up , giving his parents names:

Hi

There's a death record for 19 April 1933, Queensland.
Father - Dennis (Downes)
Mother -  Elizabeth Hughes
Reg No. - B020396

Gadget

I assume that the reg no can be used to get the full cert.

Gadget
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: majm on Sunday 28 July 13 13:32 BST (UK)
Yes I saw that..

  The info given on the online index is transcribed from the registrat....ion.  It is from that section of the dc that is NOT verified as it is from an informant and is not checked bt BDM staff.  There two further sections on QLD certs.  ...One for the medico and one for the funeral director who handles the equivalent of English burial order including how/where interred..  The FD can check some of the informant supplied info  as can a medico if the family doctor.

Otherwise like all dcs the info can be verified by family history buffs.......  eg When married/children of marriage ... vital fh info found on many Antipodean dcs.

Cheers JM on e reader so cant do cheerio smiley Gadget!
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 13:44 BST (UK)
I think I understood that  ;D   Your e-reader is a bit like my laptop  :-X

I've just noticed that the thread is now in Aus (it was in the Common Room, so I did an R2M for move). Will leave it for you down there now  ;D


Gadget
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: rosball on Sunday 28 July 13 14:01 BST (UK)
Following on from the possibility of father being Dennis William Downes who died in Liechardt in 1886,
here are some death and funeral notices for him

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article107285261
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71078939
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13631722
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13644520

Noting that his death notice says he is husband of Eliza and father of 6 sons.  The funeral notices suggest that his sons are William, George, Richard and Robert - perhaps these are the ones living in NSW.

regards,
  Ros
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Essie on Sunday 28 July 13 15:03 BST (UK)
CHILDREN born in Sydney to Dennis/Denis and Elizabeth/Eliza

V185579 142A/1855  DOWNS  Denis 
2182/1857  DOWNES  George 
350/1860  DOWNS  Robert  [d. 1159/1860]
1480/1861  DOWNES  Charles S  [d. 1452/1863] 
2153/1863  DOWNES  Richard 
765/1866  DOWNES  Robert 
1428/1869  DOWNES  Mary  [d. 664/1871]
1349/1872  DOWNES  Charles  [d. 827/1872]
2361/1873  DOWNES  Alfred 
2770/1875  DOWNES  Eliza 
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 July 13 15:07 BST (UK)
Anything on a William Henry Downes, b. 1853, Melbourne. All the trees seem to list him.

A birth record for him - father Willam, mother Elizabeth in Victoria.
Title: Re: henry downes
Post by: cando on Sunday 28 July 13 15:32 BST (UK)
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
1933/B20396   
DOWNES Henry   
Father Dennis   Mother Elizabeth

http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/community/community-support/funeral-planning-and-grave-search/grave-location-search/index.htm
DOWNES Henry    20 Apr 1933    33 years

Cando