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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Jock McTartan on Saturday 20 July 13 22:09 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am currently working on some Irish ancestors and have tracked down a Robert Whyte which is the right man in the 1911 census for Dublin. He is a boarder with the Wilmot family and it is confirmed as him as he goes onto marry the daughter.
He is listed as Robert Whyte, 26, bn. Balrothery Co Dublin
He is boarding in Mountjoy, Dublin.
A search of the church records for Dublin comes back with
Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. GEORGE
Baptism of ROBERT BOYD WHITE of 23 FITZGIBBON STREET on 16 April 1884
Name ROBERT BOYD WHITE
Date of Birth 6 February 1884
Address 23 FITZGIBBON STREET
Father ROBERT WHITE
Mother AUGUSTA WHITE
The date fits in roughly enough but the spelling of the surname has changed (not a great surprise as Wilmot / Willmott seem interchangeable as well)
As far as I can see the parish of St George covers Balrothery so it seems like this could be him.
Just looking for confirmation that it all fits in as the correct man and any other advice on sources to check. I will be looking into the listed occupation in the future which is listed as Postal Branch G P O R G A Reservist.
Cheers
Neil
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Edited a bit as - completely misread the first part of your post
Balrothery is out in North County Dublin, while St George's is North Dublin City, so no, it doesn't seem to be correct.
A lot of Balrothery records are on the PPV site Rootsireland.ie - so worth a look if you haven't.
On his Occupation of 'Postal Branch G P O R G A Reservist' I would take this to mean
1. That his is working at the General Post Office (GPO) on O'Connell Street (one of the main scenes of the Easter Rising a few years later)
2. I would imagine (but not positive) that this refers to the Royal Garrison Artillery Reservists.
hope that helps
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Best match I can see for Robert's birth in Civil index.
Robert White
Jul-Aug-Sep 1884
Balrothery
Vol: 2
Page 369
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There is another birth in 1884, registered in ‘Balrothery’, which may also be a possibility.
Birth
Name: Robert White
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1884
Registration District: Balrothery
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 369
But, if you do not have it already, I’d start with ordering the €4 copy of their marriage register from the General Register Office, to confirm the church where they married, as well as the fathers’ names and occupations. Details are:
Marriage
Name: Robert Whyte
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration District: Dublin North
Volume: 2
Page Number: 461
It cross-matches with Louise Jeannette Wilmot, so seems likely.
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Thank you so much guys. You've saved me from going down a wrong path!
When I was looking at St Georges parish the was a Mountjoy square which threw me a bit. I'll get the marriage certificate and go from there.
Cheers!
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Out of interest, where did you search the index to get the 1864 hits for Balrothery? I've tried FamilySearch and RootsIreland but could only get the marriage certificate.
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Here is the record on Familyserch
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBH4-YM4
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Also, have a look here for records of the RGA
http://www.origins.net/help/aboutio-militia.aspx
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Hello, This is my grandfather as well. Robert Joseph Whyte ( White) born in Balrothery workhouse Dublin. He married Janette Louise Wilmot after living as a lodger with her family in Dublin. I have his birth certificate and burial record in Dundonald cemetery in Belfast Northern Ireland. I also have his army number and information about the family and his war history. I have quite a bit of information that I can share with you if you are interested please get in touch. I am the daughter of William Ernest Whyte, the youngest son of Robert.
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They were married in Christchurch church in Dublin.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Some links-
Marriage - Robert Whyte to Louise Jeanette Wilmot on 18th September 1911.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09958/5620405.pdf
Births of four children between 1912 and 1920 in Belfast.
Christina Emily 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01475/1600995.pdf
Robert Victor 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01381/1568098.pdf
Doreen May 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01274/1528413.pdf
Elsie Evelyn 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01202/1500206.pdf
KG
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other births were
John James whyte, William Ernest whyte, Nova Marina Whyte, Jean whyte and Helen Victoria whyte,
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There is a 37443 Pte Robert Whyte of the 2/4th Bn KOYLIs. who went on to be a Driver in the Royal Army Service Corps, this is the cap badge he is wearing (not the KOYLI one) with number T/4/064462. He was discharged to Class 'Z' of the Reserves on 5/3/1919. There are Red Cross PoW records for a Robert Whyte of the KOYLI (number 39443 - I think this is a typo). He was captured (unwounded) on 18/3/1918 [as given] and initially interned at Bullecourt (France) just before the start of the German Spring Offensive that started a few days later. His date of birth on the PoW records is place of birth is given as 16/8/1884, place Balrothery (S.Ireland). The fact he was a PoW, but ended the war with the RASC indeed does indicate he escaped and returned to England (he would have got 2 weeks special leave for that!). From this, your photograph would date to late 1918. His Medal card is below and indicates that he did not go to France till after 1/1/1916 (his battalion indeed only arrived in France on 17/1/1917). I will see what else there might be...I would say too his equipment rig is quite unusual, but would suit a Driver in the RASC . He had a glass eye and worked at the post office as a postman after being demobbed to the reserves. The family lived lived at ennivalle street and damasus road before moving to hollywood in bangor. NI.
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His Medal card is below and indicates that he did not go to France till after 1/1/1916 (his battalion indeed only arrived in France on 17/1/1917).
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The family lived lived at ennivalle street and damasus road before moving to hollywood in bangor. NI.
The Medal Card has not been attached.
Lennon Wylie - 1918 Belfast / Ulster Street Directory
Damascus Street
32. Whyte, Robt., postman
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/dcomplete1918.htm
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yes , that is correct. i have photos of the house they lived in.
He is buried in Dundonald cemetery in belfast in an unmarked grave alongside Janette louise whytes ( (the grave owner's name is Jenny,as my gran wasn't known by her first name louise and preferred jenny or Jannette) mother Emmeline and her uncle who died in an accident in Harlen and wolf shipyard.
His father was John and mother catherine by all accounts. Family originally from county mayo.
Robert Jospeh whites sister went on to become a nun and was never heard of again.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10157769016708601&set=a.437942798600