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Title: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: golfer71 on Wednesday 17 July 13 23:04 BST (UK)
I wondered if it was common for parents to name a new child
the same name as one that died a year or two before?
I have two apparent occurrences!
golfer71
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: Edrubava on Wednesday 17 July 13 23:08 BST (UK)
Hello golfer71

Yes, I've come across this quite a few times now in my research  :)
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: annaS on Wednesday 17 July 13 23:13 BST (UK)
Only two!

Anna
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: PK-KTK on Wednesday 17 July 13 23:37 BST (UK)
I have at least half a dozen families that have done this - one family tried 3 times with the same name but sadly none survived past infancy/childhood
I think it was part of the naming traditions
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: golfer71 on Thursday 18 July 13 01:31 BST (UK)
Thanks to all for your responses.
Because Christian/first names are so repetitive I didn't want to
verify an individual that may have belonged to another branch.
Thanks again
golfer71  ;D

P.S. First Names - It reminds me of the Heavy Weight Champion
George Foreman, who named all of his male children "George"!
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: joboy on Thursday 18 July 13 09:41 BST (UK)
Yes it often happens and can be confusing if the second child was born soon after the first one died and you cant find a death record...... this has happened in my case a few times.
joboy
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: Rena on Thursday 18 July 13 09:57 BST (UK)
I too have many instances of that happening, plus a couple of families which had two surviving babies with the same given name; e.g. two sons named William and another family had two sons named John - all married and had their own families.

If you think about it.  They're not using the names of dead children; they're making sure that the family ancestral names lived on forever.



Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 18 July 13 10:13 BST (UK)
If they're following the naming patern and both grandfathers are William for example there would be pressure to keep on naming a son William.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: Ermintrude46 on Thursday 18 July 13 20:36 BST (UK)
It could also be a practical thing, if a family held a cottage or lands from the Lord of the Manor there would usually be three 'names' on the documentation, including one or two children.  If they wanted to change any of the 'names' because a child had died this would require a fee to be paid to the Lord, so it made sense to just call another child by the same name and avoid the cost.
Ermy
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: JAKnighton on Friday 19 July 13 11:58 BST (UK)
My great grandfather was named after his older brother who died a week after he was born.

Another distant relative reused the name of an older sibling, and his cousin used the name as well.
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: OrganicJohn on Sunday 21 July 13 09:17 BST (UK)
I have also come across this several times with my ancestors.It seemed a bit strange to me  at first,morbid even,I don`t know why.It was also a bit confusing .Obviously there could not be two sons with the same name (except for George Foreman!).I have not come across it with daughters.I have also found in a couple of cases the third born son named after the father even having the same middle name.Perhaps the parents had run out of favourite names.
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: annaS on Sunday 21 July 13 10:08 BST (UK)
I have a family who had 2 daughters; both died.  The first was born and 1872 and died 1874 and the second born 1875 and died 6 months later.  Although they went on to have more children - including girls - they didn't use the name Priscilla again.  They had 16 children in all!!!

Anna
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: a-l on Sunday 21 July 13 13:57 BST (UK)
I also have found this very common amongst both sexes in my families.also name reversals eg if two mary janes died the third became jane mary.
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: josey on Sunday 21 July 13 14:34 BST (UK)
Obviously there could not be two sons with the same name (except for George Foreman!)
I found a family on the census in Scotland with 3 sons called Alexander because both grandparents and the father had that name. Presumably the close family had some way of distinguishing them when they called out the name!

Josey
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: JAKnighton on Sunday 21 July 13 14:53 BST (UK)
It was also quite common for variations of names or very similar names to be used across several children, I have a family with two sons called Harrison and Harry. Eliza and Elizabeth were commonly used in the same family group.

Also situations where middle names would be switched around, I have one family with three brothers called Ernest John, George Amos, Amos Edward and John Henry.
Title: Re: Reuse name of dead child?
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 21 July 13 15:02 BST (UK)
Certainly historically; I have many instances of this in the 19th century and earlier. The common practice was for the next child of the same gender to be given the name of its deceased sibling. Clearly this is something of a random process, the quickest re-use I have seen is around 8 weeks after the death of the older sibling; I have also seen a waiting time of over 8 years before another child was born with the same sex as its deceased predeccessor. I also have at least one case in my family where 2 half-siblings born a year apart were baptised with the same name (John). They are both fully documented as living to maturity. This caused me serious doubts about my research, but a few other cases have been reported on this site. My two cases of this were in the border area between Somerset and Dorset. The re-use has been recorded across these counties plus Lincolnshire, Cambridgeshire and Yorkshire so this practice seems to have been widespread.