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Title: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: drummondii on Tuesday 09 July 13 11:05 BST (UK)
My GGGrandfather died at Rainhill Lunatic Asylum in 1895. I'm trying to learn the circumstances under which he entered or was committed there. Does anyone know who I can contact.

John
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 09 July 13 11:23 BST (UK)
This link to National Archives Hospital Records Database may help with a number locations for records depending on the type and year of the record

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=629&page=47

Kay
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 July 13 11:27 BST (UK)
Merseyside records office hold the admission and discharge records,
so this may be a good place to start,


Lancashire archives site may be of use to you as a guide to what is held ,
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 July 13 11:29 BST (UK)
It is also possible his funeral may have taken place at St Mary the Virgin Prescot,
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 July 13 11:31 BST (UK)
What is his name John :-X
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: drummondii on Tuesday 09 July 13 11:56 BST (UK)
Hi Radcliff,

This is my first use of Rootschat! I'm not sure if I'm replying correctly, as the help,line is down.
Anyway, my GGGrandfather's name was John Rimmer he was born 1949 in Whiston and I'm fairly sure his funeral was at St Mary's, Prescot.
Thanks for your help

John
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 July 13 12:00 BST (UK)
Spot on John
John Rimmer
aged 46
abode County Asylum,ST Helens
5th Jan 1895

very important when looking for his paperwork,
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 July 13 12:03 BST (UK)
Is this lady connected to your family,

in for a penny in for a pound,

17th Jan 1895
Ellen Rimmer,
aged 79,
Whiston Union,
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: drummondii on Tuesday 09 July 13 12:18 BST (UK)
I'm not aware of an Ellen Rimmer, he had six daughters one my grandmother, but no Ellen's as far as I know.

John
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: drummondii on Tuesday 09 July 13 12:30 BST (UK)
Sorry Radcliff, My chronology is out, Ellen would have been his Aunt if in fact she was related.
His father was John Rimmer b. 1808, I am unsure of his parents or siblings.

John

PS I'm logging off till tomorrow, it's 9.30 pm here and I start work in the wee small hours.
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 July 13 13:15 BST (UK)
If by chance he stayed within the area he was born

John Rimmer
born 6th August 1808
baptised 11th September,
son of Edward and Elizabeth,
abode Eccleston
a potter by trade.
possible siblings,
Thomas 1800,
Edward 1802.
Ann 1804,
Edward,1806,
William 1810,
Giles,1812,
Catherine 1815
Henry 1817,

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11th August 1834
John Rimmer,bachelor,collier of Eccleston,
Ann Miller,widow of Eccleston,
witnessed by George Drysdale and Esther Large
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John Rimmer,
born 8th October,
baptised 13th November 1808
son of Richard and Alice,
abode Rainhill,
father a labourer,
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22nd September 1834
John Rimmer,farmer bachelor of Rainford
Jane Battersby spinster of Rainford
witnessed by John ,Jane and Margaret Battersby
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Louisamay on Tuesday 09 July 13 16:14 BST (UK)
There is a John Rimmir baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire.

12th September 1849, parents John Rimmir and Jane.
They lived in Whiston and John ( father ) was a tool maker.

Could tie in with the marriage of John Rimmer and Jane Battersby that Radcliff posted.


Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Louisamay on Tuesday 09 July 13 16:50 BST (UK)
1861 census gives John (1808 ) born in Rainhill.

All maybes but he names one of his daughters Alice. Parents could be Richard and Alice  on Radcliff's post.

No help for John 1849 though, sorry.
Title: Re: Rainhill Lunatic Asylum
Post by: drummondii on Wednesday 10 July 13 04:42 BST (UK)
Many thanks, Radcliff, and Louisa May, I think you have put me on a different and possibly correct path re John Rimmer 1808. His father in law had an illegitimate child to an Esther Large, I know he was paying a maintenance order to her. I have him from a different parentage, e.g. Richard Rimmer so it need thinking about. There many Rimmers, unfortunately they all lived in the same areas.

Cheers,

John