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Title: Ann Charnell - Tamworth Query Re School and home address
Post by: shane9 on Tuesday 02 July 13 01:17 BST (UK)
Hi.  One of my ancestors was an Ann Charnell.  In the 1851 census she is 18 and recorded as living at 35 Gungate Street in Tamworth with her mother. She married a Joseph Dudley in 1853 and immigrated to Australia in 1858.

One of my questions is, is this Upper or Lower Gungate Street, and are the street numbers the same today as they were at 1851?

Also I have an old post card that shows the school she attended in Tamworth, would have been the late 1840's (copy attached).  Does anyone have any ideas as to what is the school?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers

Shane

Title: Re: Ann Charnell - Tamworth Query Re School and home address
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 02 July 13 15:56 BST (UK)
In 1851 Gungate st. was Upper.Lower Gungate st. was referred to as Lower Gungate.
It's unlikely anything still stands from the 1850's but renumbering took place often & over a period of time.
Same litho.
http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?resource=9665
This is what the Nat. Gazetteer 1868 says about the schools in Tamworth.
There are National, infant, and Sunday schools, also a free grammar school, founded by Edward VI., with an endowment of £35, and a scholarship and fellowship at Cambridge University; Sir Robert Peel's school for the free education of 60 boys, endowed with the interest of £8,000; Rawlet's trustees' school for 20 boys, and a school of industry for 30 girls, liberally endowed. The parochial charities, including school endowments, amount to about £700 per annum.
Tamworth Date-Line says the School was in College Lane & was built in 1828.
http://www.tamworthcastlefriends.org/tam-dates.htm
College Lane is still there but it's just a walkway in a redeveloped area.
There's a reference to the "old school" yards being demolished in 1957 which were in College Lane.

jim
Title: Re: Ann Charnell - Tamworth Query Re School and home address
Post by: shane9 on Wednesday 03 July 13 02:02 BST (UK)
Jim

Thanks for the reply.

I have done a bit of web searching based on the information you provided.  It would seem that the national school in college lane became known as the St. Editha’s Church Hall.  I then found this reference and a picture (attached):

St. Editha’s Church Hall on College Lane (included on the local list) has little obvious physical or visual link to the church. The 1885 map marks it as a Sunday School, with a vicarage behind (now demolished) and at that time, tucked away in a densely packed street frontage on this narrow lane, with views to the church having more coherence and historical context, the building would have been a more significant element. Now, sandwiched between large 1960s structures (except for its neighbour, No. 5 (Aladdin’s)) it is sadly out of context and faces across the lane into a bleak service yard and car park for the Middle Entry and other shopping units. It is, however, an attractive building, erected in 1827 as a National School and used as such for much of the 19th century. It is of two storeys and stuccoed brick and has a five window range. The ground-floor openings have been reduced and the original entrance portico replaced; the building is now in use as the Griddle Café. The adjoining No. 5 is also recommended for inclusion on the local list as the only other surviving 19th-century building on the lane, its two dormers adding much-need visual interest to the street scene.

The picture does have some similarities with the lithograph, same style, same size, same number number of windows on top story, however the door on the ground floor is in a different position altough it does mention above that some re modelling of the entrance has taken place.

Cheers

Shane
Title: Re: Ann Charnell - Tamworth Query Re School and home address
Post by: PaulStaffs on Saturday 20 July 13 23:14 BST (UK)
Surely the same building.... it has an identical portico and the line of the foundation stones is the same.

If you are in the area take a look at the old buildings at the back of the cheese shop on Lower Gungate (face the church)... fascinating. My ancestors lived at Spring Cottages directly opposite in the mid 1800s... they were demolished and became the shopping precinct which has latterly become a car park (and thereby improved!).

Paul
Title: Re: Ann Charnell - Tamworth Query Re School and home address
Post by: cms on Wednesday 31 July 13 15:01 BST (UK)
Just to confirm that this was the school. And it is in dire need of t.l.c.
Old Tamworthian.