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Title: Initials?
Post by: mrnolson on Sunday 30 June 13 21:42 BST (UK)
Hi folks

Opinions on these initials/abbreviations please.

It looks like "Yours affectionately" (though written badly) with some initials under it which I believe are G.M.L. and under those I think it says K.C.B. (Knight Commander of the Bath?????)

All opinions most welcome

Regards
Elliot
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: mazi on Sunday 30 June 13 22:01 BST (UK)
It looks like k  c b to me. If you google k c b and look at Wikipedia you can eventually see a list of every holder since 1815.  there are a lot ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: mrnolson on Sunday 30 June 13 22:29 BST (UK)
Quote from: mazi on Sunday 30 June 13 22:01 BST (UK)
It looks like k  c b to me. If you google k c b and look at Wikipedia you can eventually see a list of every holder since 1815.  there are a lot ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers,

Indeed there are, but none with the combination of initials I propose. If indeed they are initials :-( ?? :-)

It's a shame I can't narrow down the list by decade. Could be a help.
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: Greensleeves on Sunday 30 June 13 23:11 BST (UK)
I initially thought GML but of course it might be GWL.
Regards
GS
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: craggagh on Sunday 30 June 13 23:30 BST (UK)
Hello -

It could be EML.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 30 June 13 23:43 BST (UK)
I thought E.W L  and it looks a bit like "your affectionate brother " with affectionate shortened as he was running out of  space ! ;D
Polly
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 01 July 13 01:08 BST (UK)
Your affec . ate (word unknown)
GML
KCB

What is this written on? Looks like the back of a photo?

If you want a date for these initials you may be able to get the card dated. Post the whole image plus edges and I'm someone will have a go at dating it for you.

I would suggest that you change the title of this thread to add that you would like a postcard/photo (or whatever document it is) dated.
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: craggagh on Monday 01 July 13 09:58 BST (UK)
Hello -

The unknown word may be 'brother'.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: arthurk on Monday 01 July 13 13:29 BST (UK)
I agree with "affectate brother", but I think the second abbreviation is just "K.B."  If you look at the (presumed) name initials, there's a very clear full stop after each letter, and as the second abbreviation has only two full stops, I'm inclined to think it's just two letters, with a flourish to start the B.

Arthur
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 01 July 13 14:10 BST (UK)
Quote from: arthurk on Monday 01 July 13 13:29 BST (UK)
I agree with "affectate brother", but I think the second abbreviation is just "K.B."  If you look at the (presumed) name initials, there's a very clear full stop after each letter, and as the second abbreviation has only two full stops, I'm inclined to think it's just two letters, with a flourish to start the B.

Arthur

Well spotted Arthur - I think you might be correct.  :)
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Monday 01 July 13 14:17 BST (UK)
Possibly! After writing the card, he has gone back and added a thin line around all his letters and I wonder if there is another full stop at the bottom of the "K", with the line enclosing them both the letter and the dot.
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 02 July 13 00:19 BST (UK)
Agree with Mike ...I think there is a dot at the bottom of the K .... just really close...  ;)
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: craggagh on Tuesday 02 July 13 09:43 BST (UK)
Hello -

There is a full stop after the K - and there is also one after the C, which would rule out there only being two letters, I think.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: weste on Tuesday 02 July 13 09:55 BST (UK)
kcb I think but could the gml bit be emh
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: arthurk on Tuesday 02 July 13 14:04 BST (UK)
Hmm, perhaps you're all right about there being 3 letters. Looking again, I can see that the bit at the end of the K does look as though it could have been added later, rather than flowing on as part of the same pen stroke.

So if he's not been found as a Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath, can KCB stand for anything else?

Arthur
Title: Re: Initials?
Post by: gracie23 on Tuesday 02 July 13 14:48 BST (UK)
I see it as V.M.L. for the first initials and I agree with K.B. as the second.
Deb