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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Rainyk on Saturday 29 June 13 00:13 BST (UK)
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Is there some where i would be able to find record of a surname change in NSW ?
I'm researching the name Tubnor, and the latest marriage transcript has just arrived with parents names, i entered this information into NSW BDM and could not find his birth under the name Tubnor however there is a birth that fits in the name of Tubbenhauer. So i searched online trees and found 2 that have the same family with the same name change but neither of them have a source .
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Rainyk
Have you tried this site?
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/changeName/changeName.htm
Good luck
EDO
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Thanks EDO, yes i had a look, there dose not seem to be a function to be able to search name changes though.
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From the NSW BDM online site that EDO linked :
"A person is legally able to change his or her name. If a person alters their name or uses an additional or other name with the intention to act fraudulently or with an intention to deceive or in any other way which contravenes the law, they may be subject to criminal proceedings.
A person may use a new name without any formal steps. At common law, a person will not actually change his or her name until the person has used and become known by the new name. Under the Registry's legislation the name is changed once it is registered"
In NSW it is still not illegal to change your name from the name your parents used when they registered your birth. There is no formal register of those who have used that informal method (common usage) to become known by another name.
Cheers, JM
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JM has highlighted the pertinent info :) Possibly this family were one of the many, many families who changed their surnames during WW1. Possibly it was the anti German feeling in Aus during WW1 that caused many to 'Anglicise' their name. Even if this family weren't of German descent their name may have sounded German to many. I doubt you will find any formal record of the change. I know of many families of German descent who 'Anglicised' their surname and some as late as WW2. I know of one person who changed his surname from WEIDENBACH to ARNOLD during WW1 however his siblings did not. Made for interesting research at the time. :)
Cheers
Cando
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To 1918 in NSW these were the couples of the TUBBENHAUER surname having children
Charles and Elizabeth
Arthur L. and Caroline
Amie and "Blank"
Ernest and Isabella
In 1914 Ernest Charles TUBBENHAUER joined the AIF aged 21. He married in England by special license to Dorothy Porter in 1918.
There is a letter from him in the file from an address in South Australia which looks to me to be dated in 1967.
It complains of incorrect spelling of TUBBENHAUER on an engraved medal. ( V where a U should be)
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/AdvSearchAll.aspx
So it would seem that not all branches of the family surname changed the spelling and thus the sound of it.
Sue
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To 1918 in NSW these were the couples of the TUBBENHAUER surname having children
Charles and Elizabeth
Arthur L. and Caroline
Amie and "Blank"
Ernest and Isabella
Sue
Arthur L. and Caroline changed to TUBNOR
Twins in the TUBNOR name
REG 27416 In 1906 TUBNOR LANCELOT B
Parents ARTHUR L and CAROLINE
PADDINGTON
REG 27417 IN 1906 TUBNOR LAWRENCE B
Parents ARTHUR L and CAROLINE
PADDINGTON
Death of Arthur L. registered in both names.
REG 27278 In 1949 TUBNOR ARTHUR LAWRENCE
Parents CHARLES ERNEST F H and ELIZABETH MITCHELL WARRE
REG 27278 In 1949 TUBBENHAUER ARTHUR LAWRENCE
Parents CHARLES ERNEST F H and ELIZABETH MITCHELL WARRE
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Majm, Cando, Ah ok i get what your saying ( sorry bit slow on the up take today) Thank you
If the 2 trees i found online are correct they are of German origin.
Sparrett, Yes that is the correct family. thanks for the link i forgot to look at national archives.
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Arthur L. and Caroline changed to TUBNOR
Twins in the TUBNOR name
REG 27416 In 1906 TUBNOR LANCELOT B
Parents ARTHUR L and CAROLINE
PADDINGTON
REG 27417 IN 1906 TUBNOR LAWRENCE B
Parents ARTHUR L and CAROLINE
PADDINGTON
Death of Arthur L. registered in both names.
REG 27278 In 1949 TUBNOR ARTHUR LAWRENCE
Parents CHARLES ERNEST F H and ELIZABETH MITCHELL WARRE
REG 27278 In 1949 TUBBENHAUER ARTHUR LAWRENCE
Parents CHARLES ERNEST F H and ELIZABETH MITCHELL WARRE
This is the death that had me confused
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Death of Arthur L. registered in both names.
REG 27278 In 1949 TUBNOR ARTHUR LAWRENCE
Parents CHARLES ERNEST F H and ELIZABETH MITCHELL WARRE
REG 27278 In 1949 TUBBENHAUER ARTHUR LAWRENCE
Parents CHARLES ERNEST F H and ELIZABETH MITCHELL WARRE
This is the death that had me confused
Agh ....
There is just ONE reference number so it is ONE certificate, so it is one death that was being registered. There are two entries on the index as the dc has TWO surnames cited in respect of the deceased's surname. The official transcription of the death cert will provide you with quite a depth of family history information about the deceased.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18129995 SMH 11 Oct 1949
Cheers, JM
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His wife Caroline is only registered in the one name.
REG 38388 In 1964 TUBNOR Caroline
Father Thomas
Mother Rosanna
Sue
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Majm, that's what i thought but don't like to assume as i'm still new and make mistakes, i will order the death and hopefully this will shead some more light on the situation.
Thank you Sparrett, i'm quiet intrigued with miss Caroline as the family story is she is related to Lord Baydon Powell ( but we all know how reliable family story's are LoL )
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Transcriptions of certs available in NSW and are a cheaper option to purchasing a certified certificate. Info the same. Transcription is emailed.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent
Cando
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Thanks Cando
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Hello again
These pages may assist you to follow up on your query.
BUT: It seems there is no on-line index. Separate books are available.
A snail-mail contact with the NSW BDM may be necessary.
http://rgdirections.lpi.nsw.gov.au/deeds/documents_lodged/change_of_name_-_deed_poll
Change of name - deed poll
The index for the Change of Name register was initially kept in separately bound books from 1875 to 1967. From 1967 to 1996 the deeds were recorded in the Vendors index. Records from 1992 to 1996 must be searched through Deeds Name Search. From 1.4.1996 to date all change of name records have been kept by and must be searched through the NSW Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages. For more information see 'General Register of Deeds'.
A change of name can no longer be registered in the General Register of Deeds. A change of name should be referred to:
Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
35 Regent Street, Chippendale
Sydney NSW 2008
Hours: Monday to Friday, 8.00am to 4.30pm
T: 1300 655 236
F: 02 9699 5120
W: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/.
Good luck
EDO
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Thank you EDO
Ill contact them and see how it goes.
I really appreciate the help
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Hi
The last time I did a name change search, the early books were at the Lands Title office in Sydney. They may have been moved. I have spent many hours with those books.
Muss
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The informal name changes are of course not formally registered .... that's why they were informal changes brought about by usage. So there's no register for informal changes.
The Lands Office registers were for formal changes ie deed poll changes which took effect immediately upon registration. It was usual for these to be advertised in a newspaper at the time, showing former and new names.
I have long understood that most name changes in NSW were of the informal variety throughout the 19th and most of the 20th Century, until say around late 1980s and into the 1990s and the introduction of the need to present official documentation (100 points etc) to become eligible to open bank accounts etc.
Cheers, JM
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Thank you Sparrett, i'm quiet intrigued with miss Caroline as the family story is she is related to Lord Baydon Powell ( but we all know how reliable family story's are LoL )
If that is "The Chief of Scouts" His name is spelt Baden-Powell (sorry The Scout leader in me couldn't let that one go).
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1903 NSW Electoral Roll - FYI:
TUBBENAHOR Rachel 60 Glebe Road, Glebe Point - Domestic Duties
TUBBENHAUER Elizabeth 2 Pickup Street, Alexandria - Domestic Duties
TUBBENHENER Isabella Horatio Street, Mudgee - Domestic Duties
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Sorry for the slow reply, school holidays have me tied up at the moment.
Thanks Muss ill call them and find out.
Majm, Ill look into the name change books after i get the death back, that may have the info on it i need.
Tedscout, yes you are correct :-[ id be scrubbing camp kitchen if my leader saw that oops
Merlin, Thanks very much !! interesting another spelling of the name has come up so far i have 3.