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Hi, does anyone know what houses or businesses where on the side of high street that has now been demolished. The part of the road that is gone would have faced number 1 & St Audeon's church.
C :)
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what sort of date are you interest in ?
Number one was on the eastern end of the northern side of the street at the St. Micheal's Lane junction. The numbers then ran sequentially to the east past St. Audoean's as far as the junction with Cornmarket and number 25 and continue on the southern side of the street with number 26 and ran eastward up to number 57at the Christchurch end.
Do you have particular addresses or businesses on the southern side of the streets that are of interest ?
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Have you tried the local council, or the local Library.
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they knocked down no.17 Murphy's Prams and nursery store to make way for dual carriage way 1970
http://www.thejournal.ie
then type in the search box: demolition works begins on landmark building on Dublin's high st
is this what you are looking for. other information on this site about
http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/dublin/staudoenschurch/
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Hi, thank you so much for this great information.
My mom was born in number 1. They had two front rooms on the second floor. I know that my great-grandparents (not sure if they were Duggan or Nolan) lived on the other side. I have to get in touch with my aunt in Birmingham UK to find out more about that.
My mom couldn't remember what was on the other side of the road. My brother seems to remember a pub on the corner at the cornmarket street end?? Now that I know about the pram shop it may trigger some more memories from my mom.
My mom is a Duggan and my Nana was a Nolan. They all came from the Liberties. My dad was an O'Farrell and my Grannie was a Leonard also Dubliners mostly south side it seems but they do jump around.
A short story: When my mom made her first communion she was outside of number 1 and the neighbor across the street called her over and as she crossed the road a car came around the corner and knocked her down. She told me this story shortly after I had just been standing at number 1. I couldn't understand how no one saw the car because the road is huge there and that's when I found out that there was a whole street knocked down. I couldn't believe they knocked the whole street down (even though I know this is down all the time) So I would just like to try and rebuild it even if it's just on paper before it's lost forever.
I was home this past May (hadn't been home for 11 years). I hardly recognized some of the places where I grew up. I walked the parts of the city center that I walked as a child with my mom and loved every minute of it. I hope to be home again next May and hopefully by then I'll have a picture in my minds eye of the missing part of High Street.
I am going to go and check out the links you gave me. :)
All and any information is appreciated. I just found this forum and you guys are just Great. Hopefully I will be able to contribute information myself in the future.
C :)
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You didn't mention dates your family were at High Street, so I calculated a year that might be of interest based on possible Index records and public trees. If the details I have are correct then the person you mentioned would have been about 15 at the time of this listing.
Thom's 1944, High street
From Nicholas St. to Corn Market
North side - east to west
1. & 2. Fitzgerald & Carey, draper
3. vacant
4. tenements
5. W.P. Byrne,timber & slater merch.
6. L. Bannon, provisions
7. John Rush, pork butchers
8. Thomas Keogh, hairdresser
9. tenements
9a. Thos. Kenny, general smith
10-11. Thos. Victory, prov. merch.
12. (ruins)
13. Michael Doherty, grocer, tea, wine & spirit merch
...jct. Schoolhouse lane....
14-16. St. Audeon's RC Church & Presbytry
(Rev. T.W. O'Ryan, M. Geraghty, John Kavangh)
17. O'Connor & Co., wholesale clothier
18. G.S.B. Mack, fancy goods
19. P. McLoughlin, boot maker
20. tenements
21. M. Conlon, grocer
22. Miss. Kay, confectioner
23. T. & S. Curran, bedding manuf.
24. tenements
.... jct. Cornmarket & St. Audeon's Park....
South side - west to east
25. J.J. Weafer, stationery & tobaccos
26. tenements
27. M. Tyrell, newsagent & tobacconist
Town Sub-Post Office, Money Order & Savings Bank Office
Miss Mary Tyrell sub-postmistress
28. Mark Deering, picture frame maker
29. vacant
30. J. Brady, hairdresser
31. (ruins)
32. J. Gannon
33. St. Vincent de Paul Penny Savings Bank
34. (rebuilding)
35. D.J. Monaghan, grocery & prov.
36. M. & E. Musgrave, wholesale tea merch.
37. J.F. Lidwell, watchmaker
38-42. (empty space)
(no. 43 not listed)
44. tenements
45. vacant
46. O'Shea, watchmaker.
47-48. John Hendrix, undertaker, hearse & job coach prop.
49. Wm. Wilby, patent belt. manuf., mill & factory furnisher
50. J.E. Mullins, reg. plasterer & elect. eng.
51-52. Leinster Manuf. Co., shirt manuf.
(G.P. Kelso, J. Nesbitt & W.E.T. Richardson)
....jct. Angel Court......
53. S.H. Danker, furniture dlr.
....jct. Angel Alley......
54. Peter Kenna
55. Michael Powell, purveyor
56. Restaurant
57. J. Kennedy, wine and spirit merch.
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Wow thanks so much for this listing. I am sorry about forgetting to give the dates. My mom was born in 1926 and lived at number 1 until about 1933/34. Then they moved to number 44 Cuffe street (locked hall door very fancy). A diary and pawn brokers next door. It's a shame it's all gone now.
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..... My mom was born in 1926 and lived at number 1 until about 1933/34....
Thom's 1927 - High Street. The changes vs. 1944 are in Blue
North side - east to west
1-2. tenements
3. E. Cunningham, basket maker
4. tenements
5. W.P. Byrne,timber & slater merch.
6. tenements
7. tenements
8. Thomas Keogh, hairdresser
9. Denis O'Callaghan, grocer
9a. Thos. Kenny, general smith
10-12. tenements
13. Michael Doherty, grocer, tea, wine & spirit merch
... jct. Schoolhouse lane....
14-16. St. Audeon's RC Church & Presbytery
(V. Rev. P. McMahon P.P. & curates Patrick Butler & Patrick Ryan)
17-18. "Workers Union of Ireland", sec. J. Bohan
19. Brophy Bros., boot warehouse
20. tenements
21. J. Berrie, hardware merch (Wm. Sullivan)
22. V. Nicoletté, fied fish salon
23. J. Lyons & Co., tea merch.
24. tenements
.... jct. Cornmarket & St. Audeon's Park....
South side - west to east
25. J.J. Weafer, stationery & tobaccos
C.P. Hannigan, physician & surg.
26. tenements
27. M. Tyrell, newsagent & tobacconist
Town Sub-Post Office, Money Order & Savings Bank Office
Miss Mary Tyrell sub-postmistress
28. Mark Deering, picture frame maker
29. Robert Harding
30. J. Brady, hairdresser
31. P. Byrne, confectioner
32. J. Gannon
33. St. Vincent de Paul Penny Savings Bank
34. tenements
35. John Monaghan, leather merch.
36. Excise Bonded Warehouse (Adam Scott & Co.)
37. R.J. Connolly, Catholic repository
38-42. Hugh & Michael Woods, paper bag & account book manuf. etc
(also 14 & 21 Back Lane)
(no. 43 not listed)
44. Patk. O'Connor, confectioner
45. J. McKenna, provision merch.
46. O'Shea, watchmaker.
47-48. John Hendrix, undertaker, hearse & job coach prop.
49. Wm. Wilby, patent belt. manuf., mill & factory furnisher
50. J.E. Mullins, reg. plasterer & elect. eng.
51. Tenements
52. Dublin Shirt Manuf. Co., G.J. Wilson prop.
.... jct. Angel Court .....
53. J. Collins, h/ware merch.
.... jct. Angel Alley .....
54. E. Tier, newsagent
55. Cooney Bros. purveyors
56. J. Lyons & Co. Ltd., confectioners
57. Kennedy Bros., grocers etc
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.....until about 1933/34. Then they moved to number 44 Cuffe street (locked hall door very fancy). A diary and pawn brokers next door....
section of Cuffe street in 1930 :
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41. Herbert S. Smith, brushmaker
42/43. Alfred Wilmot, chandler
43 . L. Kidd
44. Mrs. Dora Kennedy, dairy
... jct. Montague place ....
45. C. Kelly
46. M. Bolger, provision merchant
47. Mrs. Graham
48. Merideth's pawnbrokers & jewellers
Edward S. Sheridan, licensed pawnbroker
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Numbers 25 to 54 ran east to west, on the south side of the street.
listing as shown in 1938
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41. Herbert S. Smith, brushmaker
42. Dairy (no name listed)
43. Mooney, butcher
44. C. Kelly, Dairy
45. M. Leech, greengrocer
... jct. Montague place ....
46. Mrs. Homer, greengrocer
47. P. Butler, provision merchant
48. Merideth's pawnbrokers & jewellers
Edward S. Sheridan, licensed pawnbroker
...
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Hi S,
Thanks a mil. for the lists :) :).
I discovered yesterday looking through Glasnevin Cemetary (I bet they make a fortune on people researching online). that it was my GGparents Duggan that lived in high street. I had called my mom but she could not remember perhaps because my GGNana Duggan died in 1926, 5 months before she was born and they have her address as number 1 high street. I think she must have been living with my grandparents as my gdad Patrick was her youngest and widowed by then. I also found my GGDad in Glasnevin he died in 1916 they were in hanover street/square at the time. I got the numbers on Cuffe street mixed up the Duggans lived in number 47. The reason I got that wrong is that my ggdad Thomas O'Farrell was actually born number at 44 Cuffe street in 1871. How weird is that. I guess the O'Farrell's & Duggan's were meant to be. The families never knew one another until my parents married in 1947.
Thanks again for the info.
C :)
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Picture of High Street in the 60's or 70's, you can see Byrne's number 3 i think
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Hi A,
Fabulous photo, thanks. It was kind of a shock to see how run down the street was. I had to take a look at the photo's I took while there this past May. I guess because Number 1 has been rebuilt with the red brick I didn't think of it as completely new. If that makes any sense. Thankfully they at least rebuilt one side of the street.
It looks like Byrnes might have been number 5. It was there in 1927 and I guess held it's ground until they rebuilt that part of the street. I don't really remember High Street. I use to shop with my mom in Moore street & Thomas Street in the late 60's and early70's. I loved it. My mom knew the dealers and got all the best fruit & veg. She bought my son his first pair of shoes in Thomas street many years later. Repeat business over 60 years.
Thanks again C :)
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I actually have a few more photos... you might be able to make out some other items.
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Hi,
I am descended from J. Mullins of 50 High Street and the information I have located so far can be found on my website - http://www.irishfamilyroots.com/mullins.html
I am at present, researching the O'Neill family who live on High Street from about 1840 until at least 1892, in No.s 50, 47 and 60. They were Bootmakers.
Taken from the Dublin City Directories –
Robt. O’Neill/Mrs. O’Neill Bootmakers in 50 High Street from 1872 – 1892
O’Neill Bros./Mrs. O’Neill Bootmakers in 50 High Street from 1869 – 1871
Mrs. O’Neill Bootmaker in 50 High Street in 1868
James O’Neill Bootmaker in 50 High Street from 1859 – 1867
James O’Neill Bootmaker in 47 High Street from 1847 – 1858
James O’Neill Bootmaker in 60 High Street from 1834 – 1844 (No. 60 did not exist after 1844)
James O’Neill Bootmaker in 2 Castle Street in 1833 (Not necessarily the same James O’Neill)
John O’Neill Bootmaker in 108 Thomas Street from 1829 – 1832
John O’Neill Bootmaker in 38 High Street in 1828
(This John O’Neill may be the father of James, or at least, a relative.)
If anyone can add some more Info. or photos, I would be very grateful.
Thanks.
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I was going to add another old photograph of High Street here, but evidently, the forum won't allow me to...
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Brendan M
The Irish Times shows the following for 50 High Street
15th June 1860 Patrick William O'Neill won a prize at the RDS
21st December 1869 Death of Patrick William (son of late James O'Neill
8th February 1878 Death of James Joseph O'Neill
10thSeptember 1881 R.H.O'Neill mentioned on Page 6
5th April 1892 Death of Margaret (widow of James O'Neill
18th May 1866 shows that the Leasehold of 99 years from 1-1-1864 was sold to a Mr Tickell for 100 pounds.
Regards
Felixquaxer
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Another picture of High street but not going up to 50 high street
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Felixquaxer
Thanks for info. on 50 High Street. What was your internet source ?
This Mr. Ticknell appears to be George Ticknell, Auctioneer, Member of Dublin Corporation, Owner of Dublin Evening Mail newspaper and owner of much property in Dublin and Limerick. Born 1828/9, died 1892.
In late 18th Century, his ancestors sold a house and land in Glasnevin to Dublin Society (later RDS) and this became the Botanic Gardens.
Regards
BrendanM
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Photos attached-
No. 25-27 High Street
Aerial View
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Photos attached -
2 Portrait photos- taken from window of 50 High Street
3rd photo - front of 50 High Street.
This was probably Corpus Christi procession.
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Many thanks for the interesting photos to AMByrne and Brendan M
Brendan my source is my Irish Times Abstracts My interest in High Street is twofold. Firstly,it surely is one of the oldest streets in Dublin and of great historical interest. Secondly, my mother's maternal grandfather was the M.O. at the Dispensary (No.53) from 1878 to 1895. Any photos?
Further your attention is drawn to Dublin Corporation Reports 1955 at. P.68 onwards and especially the pull-outs after P.83 dealing with the acquisition by the Corporation of property there for road widening purposes.
Regards
Felixquaxer
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Many thanks for all the info on 50 High Street especially to Brendan M who is so knowledgeable on Dublin history. As a descendant of the O'Neills of 50 High Street, I find this all extremely interesting.
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Hi MaireÁine
I have researched and located a lot of information on the O'Neills of 50 High St., both before and after they were in High St., for another descendant - a Mary Kane, who lives in the US. Do you know her ?
If not I can forward all this info. to you if you contact me through my website - http://www.irishfamilyroots.com/
If you click on 'My Ancestors' and 'Mullins/Clarke' you can read about my ancestors who lived in 50 High Street.
This Mary K also has this O'Neill family history on a 'Shutterfly' website.
Regards,
Brendan M
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Hi Brendan,
Thank you for posting the photos from number 50 High street. I just recently found out that my Grandparents lived at number 52 in 1925. My GreatAunt was born there in '25. My Great Grand mother also lived at number 52. They all moved to number 1 in 1926 where my mom was born. My Great Grand mother passed away at number 1 shortly after they moved.
I had known that my Grandparents had lived across the street from number 1 but never knew what number they where at. A couple of months ago I sent off for all my moms siblings birth certificates and was delighted to find that the first born was born at number 52. I had assumed that she was born at number 1.
Regards, Caroline
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Thom's 1944, High street
From Nicholas St. to Corn Market
North side - east to west
1. & 2. Fitzgerald & Carey, draper
3. vacant
4. tenements
5. W.P. Byrne,timber & slater merch.
6. L. Bannon, provisions
7. John Rush, pork butchers
8. Thomas Keogh, hairdresser
9. tenements
9a. Thos. Kenny, general smith
10-11. Thos. Victory, prov. merch.
12. (ruins)
13. Michael Doherty, grocer, tea, wine & spirit merch
...jct. Schoolhouse lane....
14-16. St. Audeon's RC Church & Presbytry
(Rev. T.W. O'Ryan, M. Geraghty, John Kavangh)
17. O'Connor & Co., wholesale clothier
18. G.S.B. Mack, fancy goods
19. P. McLoughlin, boot maker
20. tenements
21. M. Conlon, grocer
22. Miss. Kay, confectioner
23. T. & S. Curran, bedding manuf.
24. tenements
.... jct. Cornmarket & St. Audeon's Park....
South side - west to east
25. J.J. Weafer, stationery & tobaccos
26. tenements
27. M. Tyrell, newsagent & tobacconist
Town Sub-Post Office, Money Order & Savings Bank Office
Miss Mary Tyrell sub-postmistress
28. Mark Deering, picture frame maker
29. vacant
30. J. Brady, hairdresser
31. (ruins)
32. J. Gannon
33. St. Vincent de Paul Penny Savings Bank
34. (rebuilding)
35. D.J. Monaghan, grocery & prov.
36. M. & E. Musgrave, wholesale tea merch.
37. J.F. Lidwell, watchmaker
38-42. (empty space)
(no. 43 not listed)
44. tenements
45. vacant
46. O'Shea, watchmaker.
47-48. John Hendrix, undertaker, hearse & job coach prop.
49. Wm. Wilby, patent belt. manuf., mill & factory furnisher
50. J.E. Mullins, reg. plasterer & elect. eng.
51-52. Leinster Manuf. Co., shirt manuf.
(G.P. Kelso, J. Nesbitt & W.E.T. Richardson)
....jct. Angel Court......
53. S.H. Danker, furniture dlr.
....jct. Angel Alley......
54. Peter Kenna
55. Michael Powell, purveyor
56. Restaurant
57. J. Kennedy, wine and spirit merch.
Sorry to but into this thread, but I'm interested to know if this J Brady, Hairdresser is on of my Brady relatives. Perhaps someone might like to contact me if they are related?
Regards...Teresa
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Thom's 1944, High street
From Nicholas St. to Corn Market
North side - east to west
1. & 2. Fitzgerald & Carey, draper
3. vacant
4. tenements
5. W.P. Byrne,timber & slater merch.
6. L. Bannon, provisions
7. John Rush, pork butchers
8. Thomas Keogh, hairdresser
9. tenements
9a. Thos. Kenny, general smith
10-11. Thos. Victory, prov. merch.
12. (ruins)
13. Michael Doherty, grocer, tea, wine & spirit merch
...jct. Schoolhouse lane....
14-16. St. Audeon's RC Church & Presbytry
(Rev. T.W. O'Ryan, M. Geraghty, John Kavangh)
17. O'Connor & Co., wholesale clothier
18. G.S.B. Mack, fancy goods
19. P. McLoughlin, boot maker
20. tenements
21. M. Conlon, grocer
22. Miss. Kay, confectioner
23. T. & S. Curran, bedding manuf.
24. tenements
.... jct. Cornmarket & St. Audeon's Park....
South side - west to east
25. J.J. Weafer, stationery & tobaccos
26. tenements
27. M. Tyrell, newsagent & tobacconist
Town Sub-Post Office, Money Order & Savings Bank Office
Miss Mary Tyrell sub-postmistress
28. Mark Deering, picture frame maker
29. vacant
30. J. Brady, hairdresser
31. (ruins)
32. J. Gannon
33. St. Vincent de Paul Penny Savings Bank
34. (rebuilding)
35. D.J. Monaghan, grocery & prov.
36. M. & E. Musgrave, wholesale tea merch.
37. J.F. Lidwell, watchmaker
38-42. (empty space)
(no. 43 not listed)
44. tenements
45. vacant
46. O'Shea, watchmaker.
47-48. John Hendrix, undertaker, hearse & job coach prop.
49. Wm. Wilby, patent belt. manuf., mill & factory furnisher
50. J.E. Mullins, reg. plasterer & elect. eng.
51-52. Leinster Manuf. Co., shirt manuf.
(G.P. Kelso, J. Nesbitt & W.E.T. Richardson)
....jct. Angel Court......
53. S.H. Danker, furniture dlr.
....jct. Angel Alley......
54. Peter Kenna
55. Michael Powell, purveyor
56. Restaurant
57. J. Kennedy, wine and spirit merch.
Sorry to but into this thread, but I'm interested to know if this J Brady, Hairdresser is on of my Brady relatives. Perhaps someone might like to contact me if they are related?
Regards...Teresa
I have a John Brady in my family tree who was a hairdresser, and wonder if this is the same one in the High Street above?
1901 Census. 24 Charlemont St, Dublin.
Ellen Brady, 35, Head, RC, Born Dublin City, House Keeper, born c.1866
John Brady, 18, son, RC, born Dublin City, Hair Dresser, born 12 May 1882
Daniel Brady, 17, son, RC, born Dublin City, Hair Dresser, born 27 Sep. 1883
Lots of Brady info to share if anyone is related.
Regards..Teresa
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My grandparents lived in High Street, Philomena O'Neil nee Carey and Patrick O'Neill. My mum and dad John Christopher Walsh and Ellen Walsh nee O'Neill lived above pork butchers number 6 after they got married in 1957. MARIE
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Teresa, I'd love to chat about Brady family. Will you please message me privately? Thanks