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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: kshelley on Wednesday 19 June 13 02:03 BST (UK)
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Hi, I am looking for any information on a Herbert Henry Hopetoun (possibly not his real name) born about 1877? He married a Amy Wright. I have him living in Berry, New South Wales, Australia in 1904 and in 1905 they were living in Meek's Road, Marrickville, Australia under the name Herbert Henry Hopetoun with his wife Amy and child. Found a New South Wales police record which showed that he deserted his wife and child and he also used the alias of Joseph Fubbs. :)
Any help would greatly be appreciated.
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Hi,
You might have already seen this, it names Herbert/Joseph first wife:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16043343?searchTerm=''Herbert henry hopetoun''&searchLimits=
Leanne
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Divorce papers 1921: Amy Elizabeth Wright falsely called Amy Elizabeth Hopetoun, Herbert Henry Hopetoun otherwise known as Joseph William Fubbs
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\497254
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Might be worth checking out, since he used the alias FUBBS.
Joseph George Fubbs - Date of Death 28/08/1965
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\1198346
NSW BDM only 1 Joseph FUBBS death between 1921-1982:
4297/1965; Joseph George FUBBS; Father William; Mother Emma; Sydney; http://www.rootschat.com/links/0upq/
Amy Elizabeth Wright - Date of Death 26/07/1960
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\1017331
NSW BDM for Amy Elizabeth Wright:
21150/1960 Amy Elizabeth Wright; Father John James; Mother Louisa; Burwood
8512/1938 Amy Elizabeth Wright; Father George; Mother Amy; Newcastle
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Thank you for your help I'm guessing his real name is Joseph William Fubbs. Can anyone help with his date of birth and where he was born and when he died and is buried
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His DoD has been given to you in reply #3.
Birth & Death are reg on NSW BDM:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search
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REG 3558/ IN 882 FUBBS JOSEPH GEORGE Father WILLIAM ANDREW Mother EMMA At SYDNEY
This is the birth of the chap whose death is noted in Reply #3.
He married PEARL O'DEA in 1908 (#11661) and is registered on Electoral Rolls with her in Mascot, Sydney, with other family until 1963.
Sue
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Just thought it was worth checking out since Joseph William FUBBS used various aliases but looks like they are two different chaps. Joseph William FUBBS (parents ??) and Joseph George FUBBS (parents William & Emma).
FUBBS, Joseph George age 82; Cremation Date 30-08-1965; Ashes Taken
FUBBS, Pearl Beatrice age 77; Cremation Date 19-06-1964; Ashes Taken
http://www.esmp.net.au/search-map-facility/crematorium-search.aspx
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Divorce Papers can contain a wealth of information. They may include certificates of both marriages, which should reveal his date/place of birth and parents. Should also show births of all children from both marriages. http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\497254
Alternatively a transcript of his marriage to Emma Margaret Ann Smith in 1899 at Orange, should show his date/place of birth and parents. http://www.rootschat.com/links/0uqb/
cheers :)
cupoflife
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:) I know that Joseph George Fubbs is a different person and it definitely is Joseph William Fubbs. Unfortunately it looks like he has gone of the grid maybe he used a different name which could be possible giving that he already had done this.
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I would go for the divorce records - it looks like perhaps after he deserted Amy in 1905 he didn't return, and as part of the records they might mention when/where she'd last heard of him. Possibly she remarried in 1923 to William J C Bird which would explain the timing of the divorce. (Amy Elizabeth M Bird d. 1944 parents William James and Isabella).
I wonder if he got the idea for the "Hopetoun" name from the place in Victoria, or from the ill-fated first Governor-General of Australia, Earl Hopetoun, who would have been in the news for all the wrong reasons a couple of years before his marriage to Amy.
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:) Thank you Jorose this is correct she did marry a William Bird and I thought the same thing about the town of Hopetoun in Victoria too, maybe he grew up there or like you said used the name after Earl Hopetoun.
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Hi, I am looking for any information on a Herbert Henry Hopetoun (possibly not his real name) born about 1877? He married a Amy Wright. I have him living in Berry, New South Wales, Australia in 1904 and in 1905 they were living in Meek's Road, Marrickville, Australia under the name Herbert Henry Hopetoun with his wife Amy and child. Found a New South Wales police record which showed that he deserted his wife and child and he also used the alias of Joseph Fubbs. :)
Any help would greatly be appreciated.
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Fubbs are our grandparents name please email me at simeon@netweekly.com.au and I can help you with information
Pam Simeon