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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hertfordshire => England => Hertfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Trevor Kay on Monday 17 June 13 08:11 BST (UK)
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Hi there
I have looking for some help in trying to find a date of death for my Great Grandmother Eliza Emily Sear (Eustace) She was born 1879 Wigginton Herts.
Husband was Walter Charles Sear Born 4 Jan 1885 Ludlow, Shropshire.
I have been told by my mother that after her family moved out to Australia they had no contact with this side of the family for some reason that she was never told of.
She was told that Eliza was buried in the Wigginton church cemetery but I have no way that I know of to confirm or deny this.
Any help will promote you to hero in my eyes :)
Cheers
Trevor
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I see Walter C Sears dies in 1967 Berkhampsted aged 82 and the family seem to be in The UK for 1911 census(April 2)
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Probate records have a Eliza Emily Sear died 2 Aug 1941 at 11 West View Terrace St David's Exeter wife of Walter Charles Sear, paper sorter , Effects of £ 2226 11s 2d to said Walter Charles Sear
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Probate records have a Eliza Emily Sear died 2 Aug 1941 at 11 West View Terrace St David's Exeter wife of Walter Charles Sear, paper sorter , Effects of £ 2226 11s 2d to said Walter Charles Sear
Jan57!!!! You are now on my hero list!
Thanks
I have searched there and well all I can say is maybe i have gone blind from all the searching.
Thanks Gain
Trevor
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I can't see them on any Passenger lists , so maybe 'moving to Australia' , was a story to cover up something ! I suppose she may be buried in Wiggington Cemetery , but as it was war years , I can't see any undertakers moving bodies around from Exeter to Herts for burial , Petrol at that time was far too precious to do that !
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Hey Jan
Sorry for the confusion about the australian reference as that was too my Mother and family moving to Australia not Eliza and Walter.
I wonder if she is buried in Wigginton then. I may have to come and have a look one day :)
Thanks again
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Hi
£2226 in 1941 is a huge amount of money (eqiv of 10 semi-detached)
As a wife of a "Paper Sorter" and one-time "Labourer for a Pork Butcher", extremely low wages, where did that come from?
Eliza's sister works for Apsley (Dickinsons) Paper Mills
Presumably as a Paper Sorter he is (still) there (Hemel Hempstead) when Eliza dies in Devon
Ray
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West View Terrace isn't a terrace of grand houses?
(Search for Barbican Steps on Google Maps)
The houses there don't appear to worth the £2200.
Maybe she had "taken up" with somebody else? :o
Unfortunately there are no Electoral Rolls during the war - maybe the 1938 or 1939 would be helpful?
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Hi
So, the "gone to Aus" bit could be "she could have gone to aus for all we know (etc)" ?
Maybe she ran off to Devon . . . . .
Ray
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Trevor
What is the connection to the DELL children listed a niece/nephew?
Did she marry/have a relationship with a DELL before she married WCSear?
Re-reading the posts, you haven't actually said that Sear was your grandfather.
Is he? :)
This may save us all looking up stuff we don't have to.
Ray
? Marriage Mar 1887 H. Hempstead 3a 527 Alfred DELL / Charlotte Mary J SEAR
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Eliza could have died in a bombing raid?
40 acres of Exeter City Centre were levelled by incendiary bombing between 1940 and 1942.
So, hardly a safe place to live?
I am wondering why she went to live there? :-\
EDIT
What is now Exeter International Airport was a base for RAF Fighter Command, and USAF.
I wonder if she was in the WRAF?
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Wow thanks for the replies :)
Walter Charles Sear is my Great Grandfather.
Sorry about the confusion with the moving to Oz part. My Mother moved to australia with her mother Winne Sear and Edwin Sear together with her 2 brothers. After Mum moved to Australia there was not much communication back to england with Walter that my mother knew of.
The money could be accounted for in that Mum has told me that Eliza was said to be very shrewd with money and Mum had been told that Eliza use to sell things (not sure what) on the "black" market during the war time. I have only just heard this last night as I was question Mum about any memories she had or stories she had been told.
Mum also mentioned to be that Eliza had or worked in a coffee shop some where that was away from her home - so who knows what that is all about :o
I do not know of any "dell" connection but will have a look tonight as Eliza was one of 11 children that I know of.
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The money could be accounted for in that Mum has told me that Eliza was said to be very shrewd with money and Mum had been told that Eliza use to sell things (not sure what) on the "black" market during the war time.
Mum also mentioned to be that Eliza had or worked in a coffee shop some where that was away from her home - so who knows what that is all about :o
Simply using the Retail Price Index, £2200 in 1941 is probably worth about AU$17000 today?
If you use other indexes, such as Labour Costs or Property, then it could be worth as much as AU$500,000!
That's very shrewd!! :o
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The money could be accounted for in that Mum has told me that Eliza was said to be very shrewd with money and Mum had been told that Eliza use to sell things (not sure what) on the "black" market during the war time.
Mum also mentioned to be that Eliza had or worked in a coffee shop some where that was away from her home - so who knows what that is all about :o
Simply using the Retail Price Index, £2200 in 1941 is probably worth about AU$17000 today?
If you use other indexes, such as Labour Costs or Property, then it could be worth as much as AU$500,000!
That's very shrewd!! :o
Hmmm i am wondering where my share is :P
I hope i can find some more out about this. I am going to contact my uncle and see if he know any thing more.
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Hi
On property prices £2000 coud now be £2m
On UK average wage 1940 about £300 pa, about £150k
Either way, a serious amount of money for the wife of a "minimum wage" worker
All those old white fivers, eh?
Ray